[Vnbiz] a few McCain achievements for Vietnam
AD Marshall
admarshall at gmail.com
Wed Feb 27 18:50:04 PST 2008
I'm sincerely and respectfully curious, Shane, about why would you as an
apparently well-informed pundit would predict:
McCain for one term only, followed by Obama!
I'm in the same position as you, no vote in the US. But i believe
globalization has been inevitable since Arabian nomads domesticated the
camel and used it to control trade with the Far East, long before the
Chinese began their first big push into international trade.
And, just as many modern nations believe in and act on their right to
intervene in other nations' economies, cultures, military activities, etc,
to deter nuclear weapons proliferation, carbon emissions or either "freedom
fighters" or "terrorists", depending on one's perspective, or even just to
spread their own cultural values, ideals or products (incorporating their
cultural values), each nations' peoples are now more than ever virtually
obliged to not close either their eyes, ears, noses nor mouths about what
other nations are doing, especially the most interventionist nations, and,
of those, especially those most actively intervening outside both their own
borders and the governance of the world's mutually agreed international
governing bodies, like the United Nations.
And i further fully believe that for several decades already it has been
quite obvious that being either nationalistically or ethnically isolationist
or xenophobic is to live a dangerous fiction, as both the Chinese and
Vietnamese perhaps best illustrated with their own declines from either
trying to do so or being forced to do so.
And, finally, i'd like to note that Marshall
McLuhan<http://www.marshallmcluhan.com/>accurately identified the
means by which we, as the world's leading
technologists unintentionally created the world's most efficient
then-emergent forum for such cross-border observation and response, the "global
village <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Village_%28term%29>" of
inter-national mass media which was soon followed the global Internet.
And this is something all up and coming young Vietnamese should understand
very clearly: the above and that nation's complaints of internal
interference are usually pure hypocrisy.
Just my own 319 dongs' worth (at today's rates, VND15932=USD1,
Vietcombank<http://www.vietcombank.com.vn/en/Exchange%20Rate.asp>
),
Andi
PS: I'm also a bit curious, Shane, about how well you as an fairly active
member of this mailing list stick to your just-stated creed of not
commenting on Vietnam's internal matters... What would the record show if
we did a search of the archives?
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Shane Wall <
shane.wall at translingualexpress.com> wrote:
> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>
>
> Hi CACC,
> I am not an American nor a Vietnamese citizen, so I have no rights to
> a vote in either country (or an opinion - I believe only those who
> actively vote should voice their opinions. No vote = 'Close your mouth!')
>
> However, I was an analyst for quite a few years, so I like making
> predictions (now that there are no lives resting on these predictions):
>
> McCain for one term only, followed by Obama!
>
> No evidence yet, but I strongly suspect that far-sighted Governments
> and political machines in Asia are already considering having to
> "factor-in" Obama in the future.
>
> Just my 350VND worth.
>
> Shane
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>
> pthang at comcast.net wrote:
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I admit I don't know everything. But I have read and certainly could
> find past articles to show these facts:
> >
> > 1. McCain worked hard to normalize relationship with Vietnam while many
> of his colleagues opposed.
> > 2. McCain defended the importation of catfish for Vietnam . Vietnam has
> to go extra step to change the name catfish to basa . The amount of
> importation is not that big because Vietnam is not big country like China .
> > Any way, vietnamese in VN appreciated his effort .
> >
> > McCain knows Vietnam more than anybody else, understand its need for
> independence, its defense and its quest for peace and economic prosperity .
> >
> >
> > That is something I know for sure. I also would like to know ANYBODY
> ELSE has done more than McCain for Vietnam.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Thang pham
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: pthang at comcast.net
> >
> >> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > Re: [Vnbiz] Obama
> > From:
> > pthang at comcast.net
> > Date:
> > Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:56:45 +0000
> > To:
> > vnbiz at vietlinks.net
> >
> > To:
> > vnbiz at vietlinks.net
> >
> >
> > Brothers and sisters
> >
> > I have watched John Kerry and the Kennedy families trying to promote
> Obama.
> > The only thing I got is Obama was against the war in Iraq. Imagine Al
> queada just slammed two airplanes
> > into the twin buildings and killed 3000 peoples in a single day . At
> that time, he was not well known and his signature gets lost among many
> others in the vote to invade Iraq .
> > Now he comes out and claims a JACKPOT of opposing the invasion of Iraq.
> >
> > Anh Hoanh and I , myself opposed the invasion from the beginning. We
> should come out and claim the Jackpot too.
> >
> > Anyway, it is obvious now that Obama will win the democratic nomination
> now. As a vietnamese, we all knew McCain has been always the champion and
> has worked his heart out to bring peace and prosperity to Vietnam even
> after he has been tortured by the North Vietnamese for 5 years .
> >
> > I am sure McCain will favor trade with Vietnam over China because he
> understands the strategic and economic position in Asia to help Vietnam to
> maintain peace and prosperity . Bush 's father did not make the mistake in
> Iraq as his son did due arrogance. It all boils down to experiences
> learned by the hard way . Based on FACTS, my democrat VOTE will go to McCain
> regardless of Clinton or Obama.
> >
> > Thang Pham
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "AD Marshall" <admarshall at gmail.com>
> >
> >> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Subject:
> > Re: [Vnbiz] Obama
> > From:
> > "AD Marshall" <admarshall at gmail.com>
> > Date:
> > Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:22:33 +0000
> > To:
> > vnbiz at vietlinks.net
> >
> > To:
> > vnbiz at vietlinks.net
> >
> >
> > Dear Jackie,
> >
> > I'm still working on a bit of a 6-month news-coverage summary of
> > Obama, as time permits, under the now somewhat popular premise that
> > the more people get to know Obama the more they like him.
> >
> > But apropos your comment "that pollsters/pundits were wrong about
> > Asians/Viet Americans being some sort of a monolithic Pro-Hillary
> > 'bloc vote'", here's one fairly active site i found:
> > http://www.asianamericansforobama.com/
> >
> > Here's a Google search URL folks can use to find info about Vietnam or
> > Vietnamese on that site:
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aasianamericansforobama.com+vietnam+OR+vietnamese
> >
> > L8r,
> > AD
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Jackie Nelson
> > <ephemeropterae at gmail.com <mailto:ephemeropterae at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> > Thanks for much thoughtful discussion regarding our next US
> President.
> >
> > I realize this list is Viet Nam-business-centric, but
> > nevertheless, pleased to hear a variety of opinions regarding
> > who the next USA Prez will be.
> > Especially enjoy hearing that pollsters/pundits were wrong about
> > Asians/Viet Americans being some sort of a monolithic Pro-Hillary
> > 'bloc vote'.
> >
> > We are a diverse group and never short of opinions :-)
> >
> > Hope to hear more of your opinions (overseas, ex-pats, and non
> > AMericans too!) and experiences in the year to come.
> >
> > Jackie (N. Carolina, USA)
> >
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Quote: "Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none..."
Source: Shakespeare, 1623, "All's Well That Ends Well"
Get it at Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2246
GPG/PGP Public Keys online: http://cryptonomicon.mit.edu/
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