[Vnbiz] Developing Open Source Software (Linux)

Sat Feb 23 05:27:41 PST 2008

There's another of the VietNam FLO old timers.  NetNam's Tran Ba Thai worked
along with Rob Hurle of Australia National University as some of the
earliest FLO users and advocates in VietNam. When i came to SaiGon in '94,
it was in part via writing about Thai and Hurle's collaboration on building
VN's very first Internet links for a newspaper in Hong Kong.

Just as a point of note, Binh, i recognize the more typical, FOSS, FLOSS,
OSS and other acronyms in recent IT-industry currency for Free/Libre and
Open-source software. But because i don't focus on only FLO software, i
prefer a more comprehensive (and marketable!) acronym, ie, FLO.

Just because we've both been in the IT industry for some time, we should not
neglect the fact that both information systems and information itself --
text, images, audio and video files and their content -- have been available
under FLO licenses for some years already. The Creative
Commons<http://creativecommons.org/>-- which US law professor
Lawerence
Lessig may soon be bringing to the US Congressional
process<http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080220-lessig-talks-to-ars-about-his-potential-run-for-congress.html>--
is the classic example of online portal and licensing for a FLO
community's *non-software* products.

WWW (With warm wishes),
Andi

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Vu The Binh <binh at netnam.vn> wrote:

> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>
> Anh Thien, et al,
>
> FLO, or we the IT called FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) have
> application which can run over Windows. E.g: OpenOffice replaced for MS
> Office, Firefox for I.E, Thunderbird for Outlook Express, etc. There are
> many many nice FOSS application which can run even better and more
> comfortable than M$ ones.
>
> Also, Linux can support most of drivers. Popular laptops can run Linux
> as Ubuntu quite well.
>
> If any one need more information or support of FOSS, don't hesitate to
> contact me. I've been working in this field for many years. It's also
> the hobby.
>
> Nice weekend, Binh.
> --
> Vu The Binh
> NetNam Corporation – Institute of Information Technology
> 18 Hoang Quoc Viet, Cau Giay, Hanoi, Vietnam
> (T)+84-4-7564907, (F)+84-4-7561888, (M)+84-(0)-9 0343 4477
> (E) binh at netnam.vn (W) www.netnam.vn
>
> Tran Ba Thien wrote:
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Dear CACC,
> >
> > I have some questions.
> >
> > Do the "FLO" software run on Windows environment or Linux environment?
> > Most of input devices on laptop computer are working with windows
> > environment. If we use Linux, will drivers of these devices be
> compatible?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tran Ba Thien
> > tranbathien at gmail.com <mailto:tranbathien at gmail.com>
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* AD Marshall <mailto:admarshall at gmail.com>
> >     *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net <mailto:vnbiz at vietlinks.net>
> >     *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2008 11:11 PM
> >     *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] Developing Open Source Software (Linux)
> >
> >     [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >     Dear CACC,
> >
> >     In response to A Hoanh's wise advocacy of VietNam adopting "Open
> >     source" software (BeLow), if anyone wants some help with Free,
> >     Libre/Linux or [other] Open-source (FLO) software -- even if only to
> >     understand the differences between those 3 kinds of FLO software --
> >     several friends and i have been working with FLO systems (software,
> >     users and code contributors) for a decade or so already, both in and
> >     outside Vietnam.
> >
> >     Of the story of the FLO (software and global community) in VietNam
> >     (excluding the Internet, the core technologies of which are almost
> >     exclusively FLO software), Government here first became interested
> >     in the FLO sometime around October 2002 when MoSTs' Tran Luu Chuong
> >     gave his InfoDev Presentation of in Washington, DC, entitled "How
> >     VietNam Faces Open Source Software (OSS)". Since then, VietNam has
> >     yet to go with the FLO in any major way. Pirated Microsoft software
> >     is still the choice of well over 80% of VietNam's home and office
> >     info' systems' buyers (whether they knew it or not).
> >
> >     Just a few FLO points that might be of interest:
> >
> >         * The VNBiz mailing list is built on FLO systems.  The gentleman
> >           who originally set up and administered VNBiz' FLO
> >           mailing-list-management system
> >           <http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html>, anh Tin Le,
> >           is one of VietNam's earliest FLO advocates.
> >         * One of the more obvious, immediate benefits of using Linux at
> >           least as a desktop operating system is the enormous boost in
> >           security (privacy, authentication, reliability, [exclusive]
> >           access) one gets when sharing information or data files, but
> >           especially when doing so using the Internet. With Linux, you
> >           can basically forget about installing and updating antivirus
> >           software. Though viruses and "Free" antivirus software for
> >           Linux exist, they're virtually trivial, so far. Just install a
> >           good Linux desktop system for all your home/office needs, do a
> >           minor bit of re-learning for office and multimedia
> >           applications (not Internet app's) and you can simply laugh out
> >           loud each time a new Microsoft Windows/Office/InternetExplorer
> >           virus or other threat is reported worldwide. Security,
> >           stability and privacy were designed into Linux from scratch.
> >         * This email and everything at or via my <control-u><!-- nÃ¸t
> >           --> <http://admarshall.googlepages.com/> webpage was produced
> >           via FLO systems. A screenshot of the desktop of the Ubuntu
> >           Linux PC this email was written from can be seen at
> >           http://flickr.com/photos/admarshall/. (It puts Windoze
> >           desktops to shame.)
> >
> >     Have a great day and Go with the FLO!
> >
> >     (Máº·c) AD Marshall
> >     *madm at vice-h0:~$* uname -a
> >     Linux vice-h0 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Tue Feb 12 05:41:34 UTC 2008
> >     i686 GNU/Linux
> >     *madm at vice-h0:~$* whereis ubuntu
> >     ubuntu: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic/ubuntu
> >     /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16/ubuntu
> >
> >
> >     2008/2/22 Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:tdhoanh at gmail.com>>:
> >
> >         [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >         Dear CACC,
> >
> >         There is a series of discussion on VNExpress about developing
> >         open-source software, i.e.,, Linux.  The following article is
> >         one in the series.  It basically says that the government should
> >         not directly invest in Linux but should let Linux develop by its
> >         traditional way, i.e., private (non-government) volunteers.
> >         Instead, it recommends open source education in IT training at
> >         universities.  I agree with this approach.
> >
> >         We should encourage more open-source education and software
> >         development in Vietnam. The entire world cannot depend on one
> >         guy Microsoft and open-course software appears to be the
> >         road for developing countries to avoid the crush of global
> >         software monopolies.
> >
> >         If you click on the following link for the article on VNExpress,
> >         at the end of the article are the links to other articles in the
> >         series.
> >
> >         Have a great day!
> >
> >         Hoanh
> >         ______________-
> >
> >
> >         http://vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Ban-doc-viet/2008/02/3B9FF6BE/
> >
> >         Thá»(c) sÃ¡u, 22/2/2008, 17:36 GMT+7
> >
> >         PhÃ¡t triá»ƒn nguá»"n má»Ÿ khÃ´ng cáº§n trÃ´ng chá»  nhÃ
>  nÆ°á»›c
> >
> >         TÃ´i xin nÃªu ra Ã½ kiáº¿n Ä'á»ƒ phÃ¡t triá»ƒn Linux theo Ä'Ãºng
> >         nghÄ(c)a. VÃ i ngÃ y nay tÃ´i cÃ³ Ä'á» c má»™t sá»' Ã½ kiáº¿n
> >         ráº±ng nÃªn chÄƒng nhÃ  nÆ°á»›c tiÃªn phong má»Ÿ ra lá»™ trÃ¬nh
> >         phÃ¡t triá»ƒn cho open source. RiÃªng tÃ´i nghÄ(c) khÃ´ng cáº§n
> >         pháº£i phá»(c)c táº¡p nhÆ° váºy. (Nam Nguyen)
> >
> >         Tháºt ra Linux tá»± nÃ³ lÃ  má»™t pháº§n má» m khÃ´ng vÃ¬ lá»£i
> >         Ãch kinh táº¿, nÃ³ Ä'Æ°á»£c lÃ m ra thá»(c) nháº¥t lÃ  miá»…n
> >         phÃ vÃ  Ä'á»ƒ phá»¥c vá»¥ rá»™ng rÃ£i cho má» i ngÆ°á» i. Cho
> >         nÃªn nÃ³ nÃªn lÃ  má»™t nhÃ³m lÃ m viá»‡c riÃªng láº», chá»§
> >         yáº¿u lÃ  thá»‹nh nguyá»‡n vÃ  phi chÃnh phá»§ chá»(c) khÃ´ng
> >         pháº£i lÃ  dá»±a hoÃ n toÃ n vÃ o nhÃ  nÆ°á»›c. Cá»(c) nghÄ(c) xem
> >         náº¿u nhÃ  nÆ°á»›c Ä'áº§u tÆ° quÃ¡ nhiá» u nhÆ°ng mÃ  sáº£n
> >         pháº(c)m Ä'áº§u ra lÃ  khÃ´ng Ä'á»"ng. Váºy thÃ¬ quÃ¡ phÃ
> >         pháº¡m. CÃ³ chÄƒng nhÃ  nÆ°á»›c nÃªn há»— trá»£ vÃ  á»§ng há»™
> >         sáº£n pháº(c)m Ä'áº§u ra. ThÃ dá»¥: cÃ i Ä'áº·t vÃ  sá» dá»¥ng
> >         rá»™ng rÃ£i trong cÃ¡c cÆ¡ quan chÃnh quyá» n.
> >
> >         Váºy váº¥n Ä'á»  á»Ÿ Ä'Ã¢y lÃ  láº¥y Ä'Ã¢u ra nguá»"n lá»±c cho
> >         Ä'á»™i ngÅ(c) open source mÃ  khÃ´ng pháº£i tá»'n kinh phÃ Ä'Ã o
> >         táº¡o.Viá»‡c nÃ y háº¿t sá»(c)c Ä'Æ¡n giáº£n.
> >         ChÃºng ta nÃªn chÃº trá» ng vÃ o viá»‡c Ä'Ã o táº¡o trong
> >         trÆ°á» ng Ä'áº¡i há» c, trong hÃ ng trÄƒm trÆ°á» ng Ä'áº¡i há» c
> >         trong nÆ°á»›c cÃ³ hÃ ng trÄƒm nghÃ¬n sinh viÃªn cÃ´ng nghá»‡
> >         thÃ´ng tin vÃ  tÃ´i tin cháº¯c ráº±ng Ä'Ã³ lÃ  con sá»' quÃ¡
> >         Ä'á»§ Ä'á»ƒ phÃ¡t triá»ƒn pháº§n má» m.
> >
> >         Váºy nÃªn váº¥n Ä'á»  tiáº¿p theo lÃ  lÃ m cÃ¡ch nÃ o Ä'á»ƒ
> >         phÃ¡t triá»ƒn nÃ³ vÃ  Ä'á»ƒ hÆ°á»›ng giá»›i IT trong nÆ°á»›c
> >         sang má»™t xu hÆ°á»›ng má»›i? Pháº£i báº±ng cÃ¡ch Ä'Æ°a vÃ o
> >         giáº£ng dáº¡y rá»™ng rÃ£i Linux táº¡i táº¥t cáº£ cÃ¡c ngÃ nh IT.
> >         Báº±ng cÃ¡ch nÃ y hay cÃ¡ch khÃ¡c chÃºng ta hÆ°á»›ng sinh viÃªn
> >         Ä'áº¿n tÃ¬m tÃ²i vÃ  nghiÃªn cá»(c)u. Tá»« Ä'Ã³ táº¥t yáº¿u sáº½
> >         cÃ³ nhiá» u forum vá»  Linux má» c lÃªn vÃ  phÃ¡t triá»ƒn ráº¥t
> >         nhanh.
> >
> >         Nhiá» u ngÆ°á» i cho ráº±ng viá»‡c phÃ¡t triá»ƒn nÃ y lÃ  vÃ´
> >         Ãch vÃ  tá»'n thá» i gian,vÃ¬ nÃ³ khÃ´ng mang láº¡i báº¥t ká»³
> >         kháº£ nÄƒng tÃ i chÃnh cho ngÆ°á» i tham gia thá»±c hiá»‡n.
> >         TÃ´i xin nÃ³i thÃªm, viá»‡c nÃ y ráº¥t cÃ³ Ãch cho cÃ´ng viá»‡c
> >         IT cÅ(c)ng nhÆ° quáº£n trá»‹ IT. Nhá»¯ng ngÆ°á» i Æ°u tÃº á»Ÿ
> >         má»™t sá»' forum nÆ°á»›c ngoÃ i thá»±c táº¿ Ä'Ã£ Ä'Æ°á»£c
> >         má» i vá»  lÃ m chuyÃªn gia pháº§n má» m hay láºp trÃ¬nh vá»›i
> >         má»(c)c giÃ¡ khÃ´ng pháº£i lÃ  nhá» .
> >
> >         Viá»‡c khuyáº¿n khÃch cáº¡nh tranh giá»¯a cÃ¡c forum háº¿t
> >         sá»(c)c quan trá» ng. Láºp nÃªn Ä'Æ°á»£c má»™t cá»™ng Ä'á»"ng
> >         vá»¯ng máº¡nh lÃ  Ä'iá» u mÃ  chÃºng ta nÃªn nghÄ(c) tá»›i. TÃ´i
> >         nghÄ(c) hiá»‡n nay chÃºng ta cÅ(c)ng Ä'ang cÃ³ má»™t sá»' ngÆ°á» i
> >         Æ°u tÃº vÃ  biáº¿t khÃ¡ cháº¯c vá»  open source, nhÆ°ng tá»«ng
> >         Ä'Ã³ lÃ  chÆ°a Ä'á»§. ChÃºng ta cÃ³ lá»£i tháº¿ vá»  lá»±c
> >         lÆ°á»£ng IT dá»"i dÃ o vÃ  tráº» trung. Váº¥n Ä'á»  lÃ  cÃ³
> >         táºn dá»¥ng vÃ  Ä'Ã o táº¡o Ä'Ãºng cÃ¡ch hay khÃ´ng.
> >
> >         *Nam Nguyen*
> >
> >         --
> >         Tran Dinh Hoanh, Esq., LLB, JD
> >         Washington DC
> >
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> >
> >
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