[Vnbiz] US president election under the eye of a vietnamese

Fri Feb 22 19:04:38 PST 2008

Dear CACC,

Ah, a welcome break! The prospective client is running late, too. I have
chance to edit my response a bit.

First, where i wrote, "Should a man prone to saying such things in public be
given a chance to be put into public office?", i should have written,
"Should a man prone to saying such things in public be given a chance to be
the so-called leader of the free world"?

Second, i'd like to add a bit of evidence for my statements on McCain and
his statements. Now, normally i would avoid using reports from the
Huffington Post to support an argument because i view the HuffPost as a bit
too lefty in its slant, but they have compiled a good overview of McCain's
foreign policy position statements. See "McCain Iraq 100
Years<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/mccain-iraq-100-years>",
which includes a summary and link to an obviously biased but still
eye-opening Democratic National Congress (DNC) video called "The Double Talk
Express" which juxtaposes several McCain flip-flops on the Iraq war.

Later,
AD

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:25 AM, AD Marshall <admarshall at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good Morning NAm (North America)!
>
> Dear Brother HoAnh,
>
> Of course mine was a spuriously baiting question originally aimed at
> little more than dishing a bit more dirt about the McPresidential
> contender.  Thats' politics, US-stylee.  :-)
>
> And beyond your point, if i know VietNam like you know VietNam, then
> VietNam would give all appearances of happily work together with a clone of
> Adolf Hitler if he were the leader of the biggest, richest consumer market
> on earth, as long as neither he nor his nation didn't harm VietNam's
> immediate interests.
>
> But my question was actually just a quick way of signing off for the night
> without thinking much more about the significance of that particular
> breaking McCain news.
>
> Now, as the *ca-phe* clears the cobwebs from my cortices, i can ask the
> more pertinent questions about that report, McCain more broadly, and now,
> your response:
>
>    1. How wise or even ethical can a leader be if publicly wishes for
>    the early death of another person? (Remember that US claims against Castro's
>    regime are quite debatable outside the US and even Canada, among many other
>    responsible, "free" nations, is willing to risk US wrath by keeping up
>    diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba. As well, US violations of human
>    rights are hardly unheard of outside the US and the scale on which they've
>    occurred, intentionally or not, could well dwarf anything Cuba has ever
>    done. Remember how much most folks in the US were willing to going along
>    with the Bushies oil grab in Iraq in 2003 and how much they support that
>    now.)
>    2. More simply, just how "presidential" or even politic is such a
>    malicious public expression? Should a man prone to saying such things in
>    public be given a chance to be put into public office?
>    3. If McCain would be, as he's also publicly stated, proud to stand
>    by Georgie Bush, Jr, perhaps the most nefarious of any US president to date,
>    how can he be trusted to lead the US away from the sort of leadership the
>    Bushes have dogged the US with for the last decade or so? (Remember Iraq and
>    the massive Clinton surplus the Bush gang turned into a massive deficit, the
>    fact the Canadian dollar hadn't had parity with the US dollar for over 40
>    years before Bush and the fact the Iraq war was deceptively promoted and
>    prosecuted by the Bush/GOP gang.)
>    4. If you were a US politician with presidential aspirations who
>    received a letter from a Washington lawyer who claimed to have published it
>    for a major US ethnic constituency, wouldn't you politely reply as well?
>    Isn't the premise of your anecdote questionable, too?
>    5. If you, Brother HoAnh, have been, as you've just stated, soundly
>    against the Iraq war, why would you support a presidential contender who has
>    publicly stated he wouldn't mind keeping US troops in Iraq for another 100
>    years while claiming he can't see the connection between that war and the
>    current US economic problems?
>
> Sorry about any typos or editorial gaffes. Had to rush this off, yet
> again. Gotta run...
>
> With warm wishes, later,
> AD
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> > Dear brother Ad,
> >
> > You ask: "If Vietnam likes Marx and Castro (even if only publicly), how
> > good can McCain ultimately be for Vietnam?"
> >
> > I think the premise of your question is questionable :-)  It is like "If
> > I like Hillary and you don't like Hillary, can you and I like each other."
> > Of course we can like each other (unless you say you can't :-) .  The two
> > parts of the question may not have any relationship at all.
> >  But here is McCain and Vietnam.  Since I worked on US-Vietnam
> > relationship in 1989, McCain has been the earliest Senator to support
> > US-Vietnam relationship, at a time when almost the entire US government was
> > still against such relationship.  Does that kind of record say something?
> >
> > BTW, around 1992 or so, I wrote a newspaper article on overseas
> > Vietnamese press, against political violence in the Vietnamese community and
> > sent to Senator McCain an English translation of that.  He sent me a nice
> > thank-you letter (but I lost his letter a long time ago).
> >
> > Have a great day, Ad.
> >
> > Hoanh
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:41 PM, AD Marshall <admarshall at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> > >
> > >
> > > Mo' breakin' McCain news:
> > >
> > > McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"<http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2257627420080222?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&sp=true>
> > > Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:18am EST
> > > By Jason Szep
> > >
> > > INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John
> > > McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel Castro
> > > would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
> > >
> > > "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain
> > > told a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist
> > > theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
> > >
> > > [snip - full Reuters report under link above]
> > >
> > > Question: If VietNam likes Marx and Castro (even if only publicly),
> > > how good can McCain ultimately be for VietNam?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, Esq., LLB, JD
> > > Washington DC
> > >
> >
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AD (Andi) Marshall
Mobile: +84 (0) 903871313
eMail: admarshall at gmail.com
Zone: ICT (IndoChina Time, GMT/UTC+7)
Web: http://admarshall.googlepages.com/
Post: HoChiMinh City (ex/or SaiGon), VietNam
Quote: "Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none..."
Source: Shakespeare, 1623, "All's Well That Ends Well"
Get it at Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2246
GPG/PGP Public Keys online: http://cryptonomicon.mit.edu/
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