[Vnbiz] Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh returns to Vietnam for UN Day of Vesak

[Tran Dinh Hoanh]

Craig,

You made several mistakes.

First, if you send a message to VNBIZ and nothing happens, ask me.  If it
simply disappears into thin air, it is Internet issue.  When an admin
decides to stop a message for some reason, we always let the poster know.
There won't be surprise.  Don't assume unfairly.

Second, unless you just know about Internet yesterday, everyone knows that
every Internet forum has to be moderated (or becomes a garbage can within 2
days).  So please don't say that moderation is similar to editing.  They
spell differently and mean different things.
Third, you seem to be so stressed out just because of "ideas."  In these
social political issues, we all have ideas in our head.   Most of the times
we try to share ideas with others.  Sometimes we try to convince each
other.  But ideas are ideas, man.  Don't let them get to you.  You can't get
stressed just because your ideas may be ignored by others.  What's the big
deal?   I write thousands of messages over the years.  Whoever buy my ideas,
good for them.  Whoever don't buy my ideas, good for them too.  Why
stressed?  You can't let your ideas become your boss, man.  Our mind is the
sky.  Ideas and feelings are just clouds wondering through the sky,  Clouds
come and go, but the sky is always there, always serene, always empty.  Why
grasping onto the clouds?

I think you should spend time to see Thich Nhat Hanh.  Seriously.  Zen
masters can bring you peace in a way that may surprise you.

Great day, Craig.  Take a rest, brother.

Hoanh

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Craig Stevenson <cstevenson2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>
>
> Hoanh:
>
> Perhaps, it has been intenet connections but not posting has happened and
> I guess edited rather than moderated is a not too dissimilar term.  Good to
> blow off steam once in a while, now six days of vacation; ie working at
> home, not at work.  Regardless, I wish all well and still hold my
> perspective if unmoderated opinion.  If somehow my perspective is impuned
> for having a beer, remember that it is at least the truth as I see it.  A
> truth I could not have shared, either the perspective, or the fact that I
> had a beer or two before writing it.
>
> Good luck and all is put away,
>
> Craig
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> > Craig,
> >
> > Obviously you have had too much beer and started to talk rote.
> >
> > No one ever edits any message to VNBIZ.  We either release a message or
> > do not release it. Each day I delete around 100 spam messages of all kinds
> > (porn, Viagra ads, etc...)
> >
> > Once in a very long time, when some members start to be too nasty with
> > each other in a discussion, or someone uses the "flooding" technique in a
> > discussion--i.e. attempting to drown out other voices by flooding the forum
> > with his own mail, we may slow down their messages and privately asking them
> > to cool down.
> >
> > Once in several years, we would run a cross a message that we don't
> > allow to be posted, usually for violating our rule of conduct (especially
> > after we have asked the poster privately to cool down), or for being too
> > politically/religiously/or whateverly inflaming.
> >
> > This is a moderated forum, but we are relative liberal in our
> > moderation.  This forum and its Vnforum predecessor have gained such a
> > strong international stature partly because of the way we manage it.
> >
> > In more than one message you have insinuated that we have censorship or
> > edit messages before releasing them to the public.  I don't know where you
> > got such the idea.  But that is wrong.  We either allow a message to go or
> > not to go, but we never do anything to change the content of a message.
> >
> > Put the beer away and go to bed.
> >
> > Have a good day!
> >
> > Hoanh
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Craig Stevenson <
> > cstevenson2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> > >
> > >
> > > Shane:
> > >
> > > So  much, so often doesn't match, and yet, despite my care for people.
> > > I might need retreat to the comfort of my own homes and the stability of the
> > > land which is the only guarentee of my own safety.  Such a shame, for those
> > > who would shake off the yolk of the colonizers to be bound by a more
> > > domestic chain nonetheless.  I am tired and my heart grows weary and I think
> > > to resign my participations because, frankly, the subugation of the many, by
> > > the few, can only be transfromed, it can not be continnued in an age, where
> > > even the subjugators, realize that their future wealth depends on the
> > > liberation of the many.  Frankly, consumption is not the model that will
> > > drive the development of an ever more populous world, and I have nothing
> > > more to say, bye, bye....Although it may be the beers speaking, (I do not
> > > work for six days, regardless, I tire of shading truths)....
> > >
> > > Good luck, mostly this will be edited as have so  many others.
> > >
> > > Sir and madams, unleash your people for the self-sufficiency of your
> > > nation, otherwise you risk being caught up in things far beyond your
> > > control, things which will bind the China rising that you believe you can
> > > ride behind.  This year, more truthfully, next, will show how that path is
> > > barren.  Self-sufficiency first.  That is what my Papa always taught me, not
> > > sure what other papas taught.
> > >
> > > Good bye,
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, Esq., LLB, JD
> > > Washington DC
> > >
> >
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