From tranbathien at gmail.com Tue May 1 02:20:56 2007 From: tranbathien at gmail.com (Tran Ba Thien) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:20:56 +0200 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a leader - The leader in achangingenvironment References: <93aacc390704282248u77da4756j28a661ce195fa01c@mail.gmail.com><005801c78b43$02fe5300$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Message-ID: <001301c78bd2$09a9bb60$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Hi Brother Hoanh, Thank you very much. I love talking with you. I can learn a lot and alot from you.In debating, sometime it's hot and temper. Because we try to reach to the truth. deep in my heart, I really admire your experience and your thought. thanx again Tran Ba Thien tranbathien at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a leader - The leader in achangingenvironment [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Brother Thien & CACC, Brother Thien, I am not talking about leadership in the "administrative approach" or any approach. That is your word. I am just talking about "leadership". I am not adding any label to the word "leadership." As you add more labels into what I am saying, you will confuse yourself and everyone else. Leadership is the quality of a leader, just like "accounting skill" is the quality of an accountant, be he working for a food company, an IT company, an NGO, or the army. Accountant is accountant. Each different company may require a bit of special knowledge from him. But generally, accountant is accountant. Similarly, leader is leader, regardless of where he is and who he leads. Let me give you an example. President Ho Chi Minh is clearly a great leader that led Vietnam through two major wars. But did he have any military credentials to fight a war? Was he great in financial management to raise funds for the war? Is he superb in organizing skill? I am not sure if he was good in any of these technical skills. He had his general, his minister of finance, his organization gurus do all these specialty works. He just led. And his quality was that he had great leadership. The same thing can be said of President Reagan of the US. He was not good in anything, not even in movie acting. He was just good in leadership. The question is: What is leadership? The answer I have tried to go over, in different forms many times, is that: "Leadership is the ability to master your own heart, to understand other people's hearts, to attract them and to lead them to a destination that is both your own vision and your people's vision." Let me break the above sentence into elements: 1. Leadership is the ability to master your own heart, 2. to understand other people's hearts, 3. to attract them and to lead them, 4. to a destination 5. that is both your vision and your people's vision. Everything I have said about leader is very much within the five elements of the above sentence. I will go over these elements again and again in different ways. But whatever I will say, will be within these 5 elements. Other things that people talk about in "leadership training", such as organizational skill, communication skill, reward and punishment, are more properly called "managerial skills." They may help make good managers. But they are not good enough for leaders. Managerial training is the training on the techniques of management. Leadership training is the training of the human heart, to have the heart (and therefore the skills) of a leader. The true leadership skills come from the heart. If you have the right heart, you have the right skills. Don't confuse managerial training with leadership training. Most "leadership seminars" in the market place and in school are really "manager training"; they are not really leadership training. They may produce good managers, but not good leaders. Hope I am clear enough, brother Thien. Have a great day! Hoanh On 4/30/07, Tran Ba Thien wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear brother Hoanh and CACC Thanks for your logical explanations about leadership and "dump everything together". I understand that your approach for the issue of dump everything together is administrative approach. yes, it seems that we can dump everything together in leadership. I am not sure that I understand well administrative view. I interprete administrative view as they try to solve the problems in relationship between people and people. So that, people know how to collaborate together. Therefore, leading commercial companies, leading state offices and etc are likely using the same way. I understand sister Lien is using another approach when she talks about the issue of dump everything together. Please read my experiences below. I have worked in social work and community development field for many years. In vietnam, many community development and social work organizations employ accounters to be their project managers. The accounters graduated economy university and financing schools. When they manage community projects, they use financing technology. that's good point. Unfortunately they try to reach economic goal for the community projects. They always worry on monetary problems. For example, first I pay 10 dong to support 10 people by certain activity. Then I pay 10 dong for 5 people in other activity, they will disagree the second plan. They don't care of the differences of the 2 group but the differences of the amount of money. They don't understand that in community activity, health activity and etc money is not the top priority but human. Can you guess what happens when a business man directs a hospital? Of course, besides him there must be a group of doctors. but how can the business direcdtor take dicision on varous medical orientations? What happens when a marine general control a agriculture bank? How can education expert manage planting forest project? Today we can see many doctors study community development for their future job of public health. Many mechanical engineers study leadership for their new position of management. it seems that we can dump everything together in leadership but not very easy. We should not ignor skills and talent of leaders in new field. With a few months of training, a doctor can get understanding how to manage a hospital. But the knowledge is not enough for him to successfully perform the role of hospital management. In the same mode, with a few months of training medical knowledge, a business man can understand something about medicine. But it's neither enough to manage a hospital. we need someone, whose talents are medicin and management to be the hospital director. yes, he must have open heart, responsibled mind and other virtues. those virtues are not measurable indicators. I predict sister Lien's approach aims on purpose and social value system of leadership. Some people's behaviors are based on their purpose. Some are base on their social values. Thanks for sister Lien's points. Her points open my mind well. In addition, thanks for brother Hoanh's approach. Your points help me understand leadership better. 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Go to: http://www.ocanational.org/petition.html to sign OCA's Petition demanding CBS fire JV, Elvis and the show's producer. Show that YOU will not tolerate racism against our community! Pass this to your friends and relatives and urge united action! =============================================================== -- "Never continue in a job you don't enjoy. If you're happy in what you're doing, you'll like yourself, you'll have inner peace. And if you have that, along with physical health, you will have had more success than you could possibly have imagined." - Johnny Carson (1925-2005) From tin at le.org Tue May 1 11:36:59 2007 From: tin at le.org (Tin Le) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] [Fwd: Call to action] Message-ID: <54511.64.71.1.218.1178044619.squirrel@webmail.le.org> ================================================================= From: 80-20PACPresident To: tin at le.org Subject: CALL TO ACTION Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 08:16:51 -0700 (PDT) CALL TO ACTION: Recently, CBS twice aired a racist radio segment on radio. JV & Elvis on "the Doghouse" taunted Chinese restaurant employees, including calling Chinese food "flied lice" and "old dung" and ending with "Tell that hot Asian girl answering the telephone, I'd like to tap her ass." What an insult! Right after Don Imus was fired for insulting the African American community, why does CBS think it is ok to insult Asian Americans? Show the media that Asian Americans are NOT to be pushed around. Go to: http://www.ocanational.org/petition.html to sign OCA's Petition demanding CBS fire JV, Elvis and the show's producer. Show that YOU will not tolerate racism against our community! Pass this to your friends and relatives and urge united action! =============================================================== From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Tue May 1 10:17:34 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:17:34 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Twin 75-story office towers to transform Vietnamese capital Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF411E7@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Twin 75-story office towers to transform Vietnamese capital The Associated PressPublished: April 25, 2007 HANOI, Vietnam: Workers began constructing twin 75-floor towers Wednesday that will transform the Hanoi skyline, part of a massive US$2.7 billion real estate development project. The towers would be by far the largest buildings in Vietnam, where the tallest structure is currently a 34-story apartment building in Hanoi. The new project, to be completed in 2013, is a joint venture between South Korea's Posco Engineering and Construction Co. Ltd. and its Vietnamese partner, Vinaconex. It is envisioned as a virtual city within the city, with 1.6 million square meters of office, retail and apartment space spread across 270 hectares (670 acres). The land is located in Ha Tay province, just west of the capital, but Hanoi officials plan to incorporate it into the city limits. Vietnam's economy has been growing at over 8 percent a year, and new buildings are quickly rising across Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, the nation's southern business hub. Today in Business Dow Jones shares soar after News Corp. makes takeover bid John Browne steps down abruptly from BP U.S. food imports often escape scrutiny Construction is expected to begin soon on a 60-story office tower in Ho Chi Minh City, formerly known as Saigon, where the tallest building is now 33 stories. "We have seen a rapidly rising demand for apartments, offices and hotels in Hanoi," said Choe Oonho, a Posco spokesman. "With the economy booming, Hanoi officials plans to enlarge the city, and our complex will be a residential hub." Posco is also planning to build a US$1-billion steel plant in southern Vietnam From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Tue May 1 10:18:20 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:18:20 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] FW: Twin 75-story office towers to transform Vietnamese capital Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF411E8@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Twin 75-story office towers to transform Vietnamese capital The Associated PressPublished: April 25, 2007 HANOI, Vietnam: Workers began constructing twin 75-floor towers Wednesday that will transform the Hanoi skyline, part of a massive US$2.7 billion real estate development project. The towers would be by far the largest buildings in Vietnam, where the tallest structure is currently a 34-story apartment building in Hanoi. The new project, to be completed in 2013, is a joint venture between South Korea's Posco Engineering and Construction Co. Ltd. and its Vietnamese partner, Vinaconex. It is envisioned as a virtual city within the city, with 1.6 million square meters of office, retail and apartment space spread across 270 hectares (670 acres). The land is located in Ha Tay province, just west of the capital, but Hanoi officials plan to incorporate it into the city limits. Vietnam's economy has been growing at over 8 percent a year, and new buildings are quickly rising across Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, the nation's southern business hub. Construction is expected to begin soon on a 60-story office tower in Ho Chi Minh City, formerly known as Saigon, where the tallest building is now 33 stories. "We have seen a rapidly rising demand for apartments, offices and hotels in Hanoi," said Choe Oonho, a Posco spokesman. "With the economy booming, Hanoi officials plans to enlarge the city, and our complex will be a residential hub." Posco is also planning to build a US$1-billion steel plant in southern Vietnam From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Tue May 1 10:29:59 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:29:59 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] China, Vietnam spar over gas Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF411E9@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Southeast Asia Asia Times May 1, 2007 China, Vietnam spar over gas By Andrew Symon HANOI - Just when it seemed China and Vietnam had buried their conflicting claims to the Spratly Islands, Beijing is contesting a new Hanoi-tendered, BP-led, US$2 billion natural-gas project near the rocky group of islands and reefs in the South China Sea. The flare-up marks perhaps the strongest indication yet that Beijing's soft-power overtures toward Southeast Asia are hardening when it comes to energy-security concerns. The contested Moc Tinh and Hai Thach gas fields, in the Nam Con Son Basin about 370 kilometers off Vietnam's southeast coast, are both run by British energy giant BP through a production-sharing contract with state-owned PetroVietnam and in partnership with US oil firm ConocoPhillips. The Chinese Foreign Ministry on April 12 claimed that the project encroached on its territory, saying "any unilateral action taken by any other country in these waters constitutes infringement into China's sovereignty, territorial rights and jurisdiction. We are firmly opposed to this." Hanoi has countered that the multinational-led project lies in its territorial waters and exclusive economic area, consistent with the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. Beijing first lodged its complaint during a visit by members of the Vietnamese National Assembly, symbolically led by its chairman, Nguyen Phu Trong. The contested project lies adjacent to the Lan Tay gas field and pipeline, which commenced construction in the late 1990s and came on-stream in 2003. Until now it had not stirred any official complaint from China. Led by BP and in partnership with PetroVietnam, Lan Tay is Vietnam's first large-scale gas-supply-chain project, piping fuel to the 3,800-megawatt combined-cycle power plant at the Phu My industrial estate outside Ho Chi Minh City that is popular with foreign investors. The pipeline also takes gas from the Korea National Oil Corp's Rong Doi field. The contested BP-led Moc Tinh and Hai Thach project, which will include a new pipeline designed to deliver gas to a common processing facility onshore, is scheduled to supply gas to new power plants totaling 2,640MW at Nhon Tach, some 60km east of Ho Chi Minh City. Vietnam's offshore oil reserves are dwindling and Hanoi is increasingly looking to natural-gas projects to help fill the gap. According to projections compiled last year by the Asia Pacific Energy Research Center, Vietnamese energy planners aim to have 23,000MW of power-generation capacity installed by 2010, of which 7,000MW will be fueled by natural gas. By 2020, Hanoi hopes nearly to double that capacity to 44,000MW, with natural gas providing 12,000MW of the total power, according to the same projections. At the same time, China has launched a global investment spree to meet its surging energy appetite, including recent politically risky forays in Africa. Beijing has expressed its desire to source more of its fuel needs from Asia, because of its security concerns about shipping through the congested Malacca Strait between Indonesia's Sumatra island and peninsular Malaysia. And securing new fuel sources in the nearby Spratly Islands would help to alleviate those concerns. Old enemies, new friends Relations between neighboring Vietnam and China have long been tense, including recent armed skirmishes in the late 1970s and '80s. The two sides fought a brief but bloody border war in the wake of Vietnam's invasion of Cambodia, which ousted the Beijing-backed Khmer Rouge regime. In 1988, Vietnam and China fought a brief naval battle over the contested Spratly Islands in the south-central area of the South China Sea. In line with China's regional economic charm offensive, more recently diplomatic relations have warmed and commercial ties have blossomed. The two sides have in recent years launched "friendship and cooperation" meetings, including regular reciprocal visits from each country's top government leaders. Improved diplomatic ties have paved the way for Vietnam to develop new transport infrastructure in its northern regions, aimed at better connecting its manufacturing base with China's booming southern provinces. Bilateral trade reached $10 billion in 2006, up more than 21% year on year. Overlapping maritime claims still overshadow those improved relations, as the new dispute over Vietnam's Nam Con Son Basin natural-gas project shows. Notably, progress has been made on long-contested land boundaries. China this year ratified a treaty signed last October defining precisely the point where the national borders of China, Vietnam and Laos meet. But settling maritime boundaries, particularly concerning the Spratly Islands, has proved more difficult precisely because access to potentially abundant oil and gas resources is at stake. During the 1990s, disputes over the Spratly Islands were commonplace, with different regional actors at times forcefully staking their claims. Recently China, Vietnam and others with overlapping claims there - including Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines - agreed under the Association of Southeast Asian Nations' (ASEAN's) Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea to resolve any future disputes peacefully. The Nam Con Son Basin area, the focus of the current disagreement, is a potentially important regional energy source. Most of Vietnam's present oil production is based closer to shore in the Cuu Long Basin, but in Hanoi's drive to secure new energy sources the more distant Nam Con Son Basin has become a focus of Vietnam-tendered, multinational-led exploration. Shell and ExxonMobil are operating in blocks that Vietnam claims but could also be subject to claims by Beijing. Despite the high stakes, it does not appear that the latest bilateral squabble will escalate into full-blown saber-rattling - as past contested claims have, including China's seizure of the Paracel Islands from Vietnam in 1974. The Nam Con Son issue was discussed at a regular annual meeting between senior foreign-ministry officials from the 10 ASEAN member states and China in the Chinese city of Anhui between Monday and Wednesday last week. The matter was examined in the context of the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea. Beijing said shortly after making its claim to the territory on April 12 that the two sides had a consensus to resolve their disputed maritime boundaries around "the principle of shelving differences and seeking common exploration". The Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said in mid-April, "We should not take any unilateral action that will further complicate the situation." A few days afterward, a delegation of Vietnamese government officials and army officers visited the Spratlys, sent ostensibly to celebrate the 32nd anniversary of the islands' liberation from the old US-backed government of South Vietnam, but which also entailed an inspection of troops in islands just to the north of the archipelago stationed clearly to defend against potential Chinese expansionism. Andrew Symon is a Singapore-based journalist. He is completing a book on energy in Southeast Asia. From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Tue May 1 10:45:29 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:45:29 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Shares on a tear in Vietnam Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF411EA@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Southeast Asia Apr 19, 2007 Shares on a tear in Vietnam By Karl D John HANOI - Up 145% last year and rising another 40% so far this year, can Vietnam sustain its spectacular stock market rally? After China's benchmark CSI 300 Index, Vietnam's bourse is the second-best performer in Asia so far this year. Earlier reports that the government planned to apply capital controls to curb market speculation has trimmed around 12% off the Ho Chi Minh City Securities Trading Center's VN Index, which reached a peak of 1,170 points on March 11. Foreigners have lately been net sellers and some analysts warn of a bubble poised to burst, as market speculation pumps share prices up and beyond their underlying earning power. Others are optimistic that big new share listings, galvanized merger and acquisition (M&A) activities and sunny forecasts concerning the country's overall growth potential will propel the market forward through the rest of this year. The planned privatization - or in Communist Party parlance, "equitization" - of various other state-owned companies promises to give the bourse a supply-side boost in the months ahead. The State Capital Investment Corp (SCIC), the government agency responsible for overseeing the sale of government holdings, recently co-sponsored with Euromoney magazine a well-attended investment promotion forum in Hanoi. The SCIC has taken administrative control of around 450 state-owned enterprises, with the aim of transforming them into commercially viable, market-driven businesses. So far, however, the SCIC has listed only 17 companies on the stock market. And the number of companies under its control is set to grow to around 1,000, with a long-term aim to maintain control of only 100 to 200 "strategic" companies, including interests in certain aviation, banking and insurance holdings. Tran Dac Sinh, director of the Ho Chi Minh City Securities Trading Center, recently said that the government aims to increase the stock market's value from its current 6% of gross domestic product (GDP) to 20-30%. To encourage more private companies to list on the stock exchange, last year the government offered a two-year 50% corporate tax rebate for newly listed concerns. The authorities are offering slightly less generous tax incentives to encourage companies to list this year. At least 22 more companies are scheduled to sell shares on the bourse in the next four months, which analysts say should raise the bourse's capitalization to around 10% of GDP by the end of this year. Some market analysts predict that if the government follows through on all its ambitious privatization plans, including big listings of the public utility Electricity of Vietnam and the Mekong Delta Housing Bank, the stock market's total capitalization could hit US$24 billion over the next four years. "We're going to see a very significant transformation of the Vietnamese stock market over the next two to three years," said Spencer White, a Hong Kong-based Asian strategist with Merrill Lynch. "It's going to have a lot more breadth and a lot more depth, and it's going to be a combination of both the transitions from the over-the-counter market as well as these privatizations." New listings are also expected to spur more M&A activity among foreign and local companies. Last month's opening of a brewery by South Africa's SABMiller and Vietnam's top dairy firm Vinamilk - where the foreign firm provided the technical expertise and the Vietnamese concern local market knowledge - has raised hopes for more foreign-local joint ventures. Taiwan's Ta Ya Electric Wire and Cable last year listed shares of its Vietnamese subsidiary on the exchange to raise capital locally, representing the first foreign company ever to take the local stock market plunge. Banking is one sector that has already seen a slew of M&A activity. ANZ, HSBC and Standard Chartered have all taken stakes in local banks in recent years - though local laws have limited their stakes to 10%. Citigroup is now preparing to take a stake in the Military Bank, according to news reports. And as restrictions limiting foreign ownership are relaxed, HSBC has already indicated it hopes to double its stake in Techcombank to 20%. To date, the most common type of foreign acquisition has been through the transfer of legal capital. Foreign merger activity is still embryonic in Vietnam. But recent foreign-local tie-ups in the supermarket sector and negotiations under way in other business sectors indicate that M&A activities are steadily picking up. Embryonic M&As Until now, M&A activities were almost non-existent in Vietnam. That owed largely to regulatory hurdles, including restrictions on licensing, taxation and foreign investment. Foreign share holdings were capped at 49% and 30% of chartered capital in listed and unlisted enterprises respectively. Meanwhile, approvals for foreign investments were often handled arbitrarily by government officials on a case-by-case basis, frustrating many a foreigner in the process. That restrictive investment regime stymied the government's plans to reform its many inefficient and loss-making state-owned enterprises. Now, with Vietnam's entry to the World Trade Organization (WTO), M&A activity is steadily starting to pick up as first mover foreign investors take advantage of the improved business and regulatory environment for joining up with domestic enterprises, either as business partners or through outright acquisitions. Most local companies desperately need the foreign capital, technical know-how and management expertise to compete for global markets and maintain a foothold against the anticipated inrush of foreign competition for local markets. Still in transition from a command to market economy, Vietnamese businesses are by and large out of touch with the modern technological and human resource management processes that drive international business. The government has expressed its hope that a soon-to-be-launched online portal aimed at supporting M&A transactions will help to bring more foreign and local companies together. The key driver of recent M&A activities is Vietnam's high economic growth rate, which averaged 7.5% from 2001 to 2005. Some investment bank economists predict that Vietnam's economic growth may surge over 8% this year, potentially surpassing China as Asia's fastest-growing country. At the same time, many market analysts are less sanguine about Vietnam's prospects. They note that the stock market has already slumped around 20% off its March 11 high and suggest that the benchmark index could shed another 30% before share prices reflect listed companies' real underlying performance. In March, renowned market watcher Marc Faber, known among financial analysts as "Dr Doom" for his downcast market forecasts, predicted Vietnamese shares could slide as much as 50% in the weeks ahead. Vietnam's shares are some of the most expensive in Asia, trading on average at 32 times earnings. Poor accounting and financial reporting standards make it nearly impossible for potential investors to conduct due diligence on Vietnamese companies. There are concurrent concerns about the quality of management at many Vietnamese private and public companies, which is steadily improving but still wayward from accepted best international practices. So far that hasn't discouraged foreign investors, who accounted for around 20% of last year's 145% market rise, many anxious to get exposure to Asia's next great growth story. The number of local trading accounts almost quadrupled from 32,000 to about 120,000 last year while the number of companies listed on the bourse has over the past six months more than doubled to 107. There are significant regulatory changes on the cards aimed at easing mounting investor concerns and bringing Vietnam's investment framework more in-line with WTO requirements. A new securities law issued at the beginning of this year aims to establish new standards for corporate disclosure and governance, whether they trade over-the-counter or on the formal exchange. Market regulators are also moving to adopt international financial reporting standards and applying international auditing standards for all state-owned enterprises. How effective those new regulations will be in curbing excessive speculation will depend on the timing, implementation and enforcement of the reforms - always a wild card in Communist Party-run Vietnam. Jonathan Pincus, the United Nations' chief economist in Hanoi, recently said: "It's a frenzy, all the chatter in Hanoi is about people investing in the market. I don't know if anyone knows what these companies are worth, but they are buying the paper." If market regulators are unable to keep pace with rapid-fire foreign capital movements, the pessimists could be vindicated - at least over the short term. Dire predictions of a stock market collapse have the government itching to introduce draconian controls, including possibly Thailand-style curbs which entail a one-year lock-up period on short-term foreign equity investments. For better or worse, the Communist Party leadership has so far heeded foreign advice to allow market forces rather than crude administrative fiats dictate any corrections in share price valuations, the latest indication of Vietnam's new commitment to market economics. Karl D John is chief executive officer of The TCK Group (www.tckgroup.org),a Vietnam-based investment consulting group. He has more than a decade of involvement with Vietnam and lives in Hanoi. From tdhoanh at gmail.com Tue May 1 19:09:36 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:09:36 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Second Holiday Season? Message-ID: Dear CACC, The first Holiday Season is around the year end and January & February, with Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years & Tet. And now we must be in the second Holiday Season in Vietnam, with Kinh Hung celeration on April 26, then April 30, the May Day, then Ho Chi Minh's Birth Day (May 19). Do I miss anything? Wow, Happy Holidays, guys and gals. Wouldn't you love to work in Vietnam! Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Attorney of Law Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hollywood delegation arrives in Vietnam for American Film Week ? HANOI, Vietnam (Map, News) - A delegation of Hollywood film professionals arrived Wednesday for the first "American Film Week" in Vietnam, where they will share their expertise with members of the nation's small but fast-growing film industry. The group of writers, directors, producers and cinematographers are members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, which organizes the annual Oscars extravaganza. They were invited by the Vietnam Cinema Department, part of Vietnam's Communist government, which has recently begun easing its control over the content of Vietnamese films and allowing the development of privately produced movies. "This is a very good opportunity for us to strengthen cooperation with the American film industry," said Do Duy Anh, head of the department's international relations division. "We will explore whether we can cooperate in film making and distribution." The U.S. visitors will try to nurture aspiring filmmakers by sharing their expertise at a series of seminars and film screenings in Hanoi, the capital, and in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam's southern business hub and the center of its entertainment industry. Among them, the visitors have 14 Oscar nominations and two Oscars. They include Susannah Grant, writer and director of "Erin Brockovich;" Curtis Hanson, writer, director and producer of "L.A. Confidential;" William Horberg, producer of "The Quiet American;" Tom Pollock, executive producer of "Field of Dreams;" and Phil Robinson, writer and director of "Field of Dreams." Also visiting are Freida Lee Mock, who made the documentary "Wrestling With Angels: Playwright Tony Kushner," and Emmanuel Lubezki, cinematographer of "Children of Men." Pirated copies of Hollywood films are widely available in Vietnam for a little more than a dollar apiece and U.S. films are frequently shown on the country's state-run television networks. Vietnam's own film industry is changing quickly, from an old state-run studio system to a more modern industry that began allowing private companies to make movies in 2003. The Ministry of Culture and Information still reviews all scripts before production can begin. But the subject matter is moving more frequently beyond the familiar tales of heroic Vietnamese soldiers and other nationalistic themes into racier, more commercial fare. Other well-known figures from the U.S. film world have visited Vietnam recently, including Bill Mechanic, the former head of 20th Century Fox; James Hindman, former president of the American Film Institute; and Hindman's wife, Elizabeth Daley, dean of the film school at the University of Southern California. "American filmmakers are interested in Vietnam, and they'd like to see its film industry develop," said Michael DiGregorio, who manages cultural programming for the Ford Foundation in Vietnam. "They want to see Vietnam tell its own story From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Wed May 2 11:54:15 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:54:15 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] With ODA, Vietnam begins to pull itself out of poverty Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF411F9@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Wednesday, May 2, 2007 With ODA, Vietnam begins to pull itself out of poverty By KAHO SHIMIZU Staff writer QUANG TRI, Vietnam - Filled with the constant roar of motorcycle traffic, Vietnam's cities, including Ho Chi Minh and Hanoi, are bustling with excitement as the country enjoys rapid economic growth. Sitting in her home in the village of Mo O in Vietnam's Quang Tri Province, Ho Thi Huong talks about a development project that helped her family gain access to clean water. KAHO SHIMIZU PHOTO Thanks to the economic development - an average of 7.5 percent in gross domestic product over the past five years through 2005 - Vietnam has so far made good progress in poverty reduction. Official development assistance has also played an important role. ODA donor countries committed a combined $ 4.45 billion in aid for Vietnam for 2007 - the largest amount yet for the country - at a meeting in December. Japan is one of the largest donor countries, with an $ 890 million commitment. According to the United Nations Development Program, Vietnam reduced poverty rates - the proportion of people who live on less than $ 1 a day - to 24.1 percent in 2004 from over 58.1 percent in 1993. The government hopes to lower the percentage to 11 percent by 2010. "Vietnam is one of the few (developing) countries that has successfully connected economic growth and poverty reduction," said Ayumi Konishi, director of the Asian Development Bank's Vietnam office. But it is also true that some people, especially in rural areas, are still lagging, as in other fast-growing nations, including China, where the gap between wealthy coastal cities and poor inland regions is increasing. In the case of Vietnam, curbing poverty requires reducing income inequality between the dominant ethnic group, the Kinh, and ethnic minorities living in mountainous areas. While there are more than 50 ethnic minority groups, their population accounts for only 14 percent of the total population. But still, ethnic minorities account for nearly one-third of the poor, according to UNDP. The government, along with multilateral development agencies, is focusing on the poor ethnic minorities in the mountains who remain isolated from the country's economic growth. One such project to improve the living conditions of the rural poor was the water supply program in the Dakrong district in Quang Tri Province - a mountainous area in central Vietnam. "Our family's life is much better now," said Ho Thi Huong, who lives in the Dakrong village of Mo O with her husband and two children. Mo O is home to the Van Kieu tribe. "We used to walk 1 km to draw water from the Dakrong River or from the mountain stream every day," the woman in her mid-30s said. The construction of the water supply facility, completed in 2003 at a cost of roughly $ 410,000, was partially financed by the ADB, an international development institution working to reduce poverty in the Asia-Pacific region. Japan, coequally with the United States, is the largest donor country for the ADB. The facility has a daily capacity of 3,000 cu. meters, serving water to some 10,000 people in the province. Although there is no official data, the people in the district are less prone to digestive disorders and kidney disease after gaining access to clean water, said Quang Tran, an official of the facility. Huong's family uses water supplied from the facility only for drinking and still depends on river water for laundry and bathing. The water supply project is one of the successful examples of improving the living conditions of the poor. UNDP says the proportion of people with access to clean water rose to 70 percent in 2004 from 26.2 percent in 1993, while the rural proportion increased to 58 percent in 2004 from 18 percent. However, to truly eradicate poverty, another step must follow. Huong said her family's annual income is only about $ 250. Her husband, the family's breadwinner, grows peanuts and beans on land he rents from the government. Asked what she wants next, Huong said: "There are too many things to count. . . . We don't even have a toilet and a bathroom in our house." Konishi of the ADB said the government needs to place more emphasis on fighting poverty in rural areas. In addition to developing infrastructure and providing medical services and education, he said greater efforts to promote regional trade are also needed to create jobs for the poor, as seen in the development of industrial zones now under way in central Vietnam. "A remote village will no longer be isolated if the movement of people and goods is facilitated." From tdhoanh at gmail.com Wed May 2 15:29:10 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 18:29:10 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Fwd: NEN HOC NEN GIAO DUC MY NHUNG DIEM NAO In-Reply-To: <089501c78ce4$50d384e0$0201a8c0@xp2> References: <089501c78ce4$50d384e0$0201a8c0@xp2> Message-ID: Dear CACC, FYI. Hoanh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jphan at club-internet.fr Date: May 2, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: NEN HOC NEN GIAO DUC MY NHUNG DIEM NAO ? *( Neu Ban khong xem duoc Tieng Viet ) --> View --> Encoding --> Unicode* ** * C?c Trang Web : **http://niemtin.free.fr** v? http://niemtin1.free.fr* ** NI?M TIN V?O T??NG LAI N?n ho?c n??n gia?o du?c My? nh??ng ?i??m na?o - GS TS Tr?n V?n Hi?n , Ki?u b?o M? Nh?ng qu?c gia gi?u l? nh?ng qu?c gia c? con ng??i c? kh? n?ng t?o ???c nhi?u t? ch?c kinh t? l?n v?i n?ng su?t cao. Nh?ng t? ch?c n?y th?u hi?u kh?ch h?ng c?n g?, bi?t thuy?t ph?c, ph?c v? t?n t?m, v? ???c kh?ch h?ng tin c?y. H? bi?t chuy?n m?n ho? c?ng vi?c, d?ng nh?ng ph??ng ph?p khoa h?c hi?n ??i, b?o v? m?i tr??ng, t?n d?ng t?i n?ng v? s?ng t?o c?a nh?n vi?n, v? g?n li?n l?i ?ch c?a nh?n vi?n v?i l?i ?ch c?a c?ng ty. Th?m v?o ?? h? c? nhi?u v?n v? c? th? l?m nh?ng chuy?n l?n v? l?u d?i ???c. T?ng s?n l??ng Qu?c Gia GDP ( Gross domestic product ) c?a c? n??c Vi?t Nam v?o n?m 2006 l? 55 t? ?? la v? r?t nh? khi so v?i t?ng s?n l??ng c?a nh?ng t? ch?c kinh t? l?n v?i n?ng su?t cao c?a nh?ng c??ng qu?c nh? c?ng ty Exxon-Mobil l?n nh?t c?a M? s?n xu?t ???c 340 t? ?? la ( g?p 6,5 l?n c? n??c Vi?t Nam ), Toyota c?a Nh?t ???c 186 t? ?? la ( g?p 3,6 l?n Vi?t Nam ), Samsung c?a Nam H?n ???c 78 t? ?? la ( g?p 1,5 l?n Vi?t Nam ). N?u Vi?t Nam t?o ???c v?i c?ng ty l?n nh? tr?n, n??c Vi?t Nam s? gi?u h?n l?n. Ch?nh quy?n h?u hi?u c?ng l? m?t t? ch?c l?n c? nh?ng kh? n?ng t??ng t? nh? nh?ng t? ch?c kinh t? ? tr?n. Do ?? con ng??i v?i kh? n?ng cao ??u c? th? ph?c v? t?t v?a t? ch?c kinh t? v? v?a cho ch?nh quy?n. Nh?ng n??c gi?u c?a ? ch?u nh? Nh?t, Nam H?n, H?ng K?ng, ??i Loan v? Singapore ??u l? nh?ng n??c hi?u ???c th? gi?i b?n ngo?i, h?c th?t nhanh nh?ng ?i?u h?u ?ch t? m?i n?i, v? l? b?n h?ng v?i nhi?u n??c. ?a?o ta?o kha? n?ng Nh?ng n??c kh?ng h?i nh?p ???c v?i th? gi?i th??ng r?t ngh?o . Do ?? mu?n th?nh m?t n??c ph?t tri?n m?i c?a ? ch?u, Vi?t Nam c?n ??o t?o con ng??i v?i hai nh?m kh? n?ng quan tr?ng : 1.Kh? n?ng t?o t? ch?c, v? 2.Kh? n?ng h?i nh?p th? gi?i. B?i ph?n t?ch n?y ??a ra m?t c?i nh?n t? m? h?nh ??o t?o con ng??i c?a Hoa K? ?? tham kh?o, m?t m? h?nh n?ng v? ph?t tri?n kinh t? v? ph?c v? s? th?ch c? nh?n, v? t? ?? gi?p Vi?t Nam ch?n ???c m?t h??ng ?i m?i cho s? ??o t?o con ng??i c?a m?nh. Nh?ng ?i?m ch?nh c?a b?i l? : - Kh? n?ng t?o t? ch?c l? g? ? - ??o t?o kh? n?ng t?o t? ch?c . - ??o t?o kh? n?ng h?a nh?p th? gi?i . Kh? N?ng T?o T? Ch?c L? G? ? Kh? n?ng t?o n?n nh?ng t? ch?c kinh t? l?n m?nh g?m c? kh? n?ng c? b?n, kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n c?ng vi?c (g?i t?t l? kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n), kh? n?ng giao ti?p, kh? n?ng s?ng t?o v? kh? n?ng l?nh ??o. Kh? n?ng c? b?n, theo th? t? t? d? ??n kh? khi ??o t?o, g?m c? s?c kh?e, ki?n th?c t?ng qu?t v? phong c?ch con ng??i. Ki?n th?c t?ng qu?t g?m bi?t ??c bi?t vi?t; v? hi?u bi?t v? khoa h?c, v? m?i t??ng quan gi?a con ng??i v?i khoa h?c, v?i m?i tr??ng, v?i x? h?i v? v?i th? gi?i. Phong c?ch con ng??i bao g?m tinh th?n tr?ch nhi?m, l?ng t? tin, n?ng ??ng, suy ngh? v? h?nh ??ng ??c l?p, th?nh th?t v? ??o ??c, s? t? l?p, l?ng r?ng l??ng v? tha, can ??m n?i l?n s? th?t nh?t l? n?i l?n nh?ng sai l?m ?? s?a ch?a, can ??m th?c hi?n nh?ng th? th?ch m?i, tinh th?n l?c quan, v? ch? ganh ?ua cao. Kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n g?m c? nh?ng chuy?n m?n c?n khi l?m vi?c ki?m s?ng. Nh?ng chuy?n m?n ??i h?i nhi?u v? tr? tu? v? n?n kinh t? ?ang c?n, th??ng ???c l??ng cao. Kh? n?ng giao ti?p g?m kh? n?ng l?m vi?c chung m?t c?ch h?a gi?i v?i m?i ng??i, ???c nhi?u ng??i tin, ?t k? ch?ng ??i, c? nhi?u b?n, c? kh? n?ng gi?i quy?t nh?ng tranh ch?p m?t c?ch ?n h?a, bi?t c?ch thuy?t ph?c ng??i kh?c, v.v? Kh? n?ng n?y r?t quan tr?ng v? n? l? ??ng c? ch?nh trong s? li?n k?t nh?ng ng??i l? v?i nhau ?? g?y d?ng t? ch?c m?i, ho?c gi?p s? m?u d?ch gi?a nh?ng t? ch?c kinh t?. Kh? n?ng s?ng t?o bao g?m nh?ng kh? n?ng t?o n?n ???c nh?ng g? m?i l? m? x? h?i c?n nh? s?n ph?m, k? thu?t, ngh? thu?t, d?ch v?, t? t??ng hay ? ki?n, t? ch?c, th? tr??ng, ph??ng c?ch l?m vi?c hay qu?n l? h?u hi?u, v.v? Kh? n?ng l?nh ??o g?m c? s? hi?u bi?t nhu c?u c?a x? h?i ?? ??nh h??ng chi?n l??c cho t? ch?c; bi?t li?n k?t nh?ng c? nh?n ri?ng r? th?nh m?t t? ch?c v?ng ch?c, h?u hi?u; c? t?m nh?n cao, xa, r? r?t; x?c ??nh r? c?c m?c ti?u c? th? ??t ???c v? truy?n ??t cho nh?n vi?n; t?o s? g?n b?, trung th?nh v? nhi?t t?m l?u d?i c?a nh?n vi?n v?i t? ch?c; bi?t c?ch t?ng c??ng n?ng su?t chung c?a t? ch?c. Theo th? t? quan tr?ng, kh? n?ng c? b?n l? quan trong nh?t v? n? l? n?n t?ng c?a m?i kh? n?ng c?n l?i. K? ?? l? giao ti?p v? l?nh ??o v? hai kh? n?ng n?y gi?p t?o n?n t? ch?c. Ti?p theo l? s?ng t?o v? n? gi?p t? ch?c t?o ???c c? h?i m?i v?i l?i nhu?n cao. Sau c?ng l? chuy?n m?n v? ng??i d?n ch? c? vi?c l?m thu nh?p cao khi ??t n??c c? nhi?u t? ch?c l?n h?u hi?u. Hai v? d? sau ??y cho th?y th? t? c?a s? quan tr?ng c?a nh?ng kh? n?ng tr?n : - Nike l? c?ng ty gi?y h?ng ??u c?a th? gi?i nh?ng c?ng ty m? ? M? kh?ng s?n xu?t m?t ??i gi?y n?o. Nike chuy?n v? l?nh ??o, giao ti?p v? s?ng t?o, v? ??y nh?ng c?ng vi?c s?n xu?t ??n nh?ng n??c c? nh?n c?ng r? v? kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n cao nh? Vi?t Nam. Trong tr??ng h?p n?y, kh? n?ng ?t quan tr?ng nh?t l? chuy?n m?n. - Sinh vi?n ??i H?c B?ch Khoa r?t s?ng t?o v? ??t gi?i nh?t t? Robocon ch?u ? - Th?i B?nh D??ng nhi?u n?m g?n ??y. Trong khi ?? c?c c?ng ty s?n xu?t robots l? ? Nh?t v? Nam H?n. Hai ?i?u n?y cho th?y Vi?t Nam c? con ng??i c? kh? n?ng s?ng t?o v? chuy?n m?n nh?ng thi?u r?t nhi?u con ng??i v?i kh? n?ng l?nh ??o v? giao ti?p ?? t?o n?n nh?ng c?ng ty l?n ?? gi?p d?n gi?u n??c m?nh. Hi?n t?i Vi?t Nam l? m?t n??c v?i thu nh?p ??u ng??i r?t th?p, ch?a c? nh?ng c?ng ty ??c l?p gi?u m?nh ? t?m c? th? gi?i. ?i?u n?y cho th?y ph??ng ph?p ??o t?o con ng??i hi?n th?i kh?ng ph?t huy nh?ng ?u ?i?m s?n c? c?a ng??i Vi?t nh? c?n c?, th?ng minh, ham h?c h?i, ?a t?m t?i s?ng t?o ?? chuy?n th?nh kh? n?ng l?nh ??o, giao ti?p, kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n cao v? kh? n?ng c? b?n - nh?t l? phong c?ch con ng??i. ??o T?o Kh? N?ng T?o T? Ch?c ? C?p Ph? Th?ng Ch??ng tr?nh ph? th?ng ( c?p 1: elementary, c?p 2: middle/junior high, c?p 3: high school ) c?a Vi?t Nam ??t n?ng vi?c h?p th? th?t nhi?u ki?n th?c t?ng qu?t, ?t ch? tr?ng ??n n?ng cao phong c?ch con ng??i, kh? n?ng giao ti?p v? s?ng t?o. H?c sinh Vi?t Nam, ngay t? c?p 1, ch? bi?t h?c v? h?c, kh?ng c? th? gi? vui ch?i, t?p luy?n th? thao, v? ph?t tri?n nh?ng kh? n?ng quan tr?ng kh?c nh? s? ch? ??ng, t? tin, kh? n?ng suy ngh? ??c l?p, t?m t?i, kh?m ph?, v.v.. Ph??ng ph?p gi?ng d?y c? nhi?u t?nh c?ch ??c ?o?n. H?c sinh th??ng ch?p nh?n tuy?t ??i nh?ng ki?n th?c t? th?y c? v? t? s?ch gi?o khoa d? ??ng hay sai. H?c sinh r?t ?t ???c t? t?m t?i, suy ngh? ??c l?p, ch?t v?n, th?o lu?n, ph?t bi?u ? ki?n, v? kh?m ph? nh?ng g? h?p v?i s? th?ch c?a m?nh. Ph??ng ph?p gi?ng d?y n?y kh?ng gi?p h?c sinh ph?t tri?n phong c?ch con ng??i, kh? n?ng s?ng t?o v? kh? n?ng giao ti?p. Ch??ng tr?nh h?c r?t ?t linh ??ng v? t?t c? m?i h?c sinh h?c c?ng m?t ch??ng tr?nh trong c?ng m?t th?i gian, kh?ng c?n bi?t ??n s? kh?c bi?t v? s? ph?t tri?n v? t?m sinh l? c?a m?i c? nh?n v? ? t?ng l?a tu?i, v? ho?n c?nh gia ??nh, kh?c bi?t v? ??a ph??ng, v.v? Ki?n th?c t?ng qu?t th??ng h?c nhi?u v? n?i ??a v? d?n t?c (?t v? th? gi?i), nhi?u v? qu? kh? nh?t l? th?nh t?ch chi?n tranh ( r?t ?t v? t??ng lai v? l?ng y?u chu?ng h?a b?nh c?a ng??i d?n ), n?ng v? l? thuy?t khoa h?c (nh? v? ?ng d?ng). V? th??ng h?c nh?i nh?t, h?c sinh ch?ng qu?n nh?ng ki?n th?c kh?ng h?p th?i c?, kh?ng h?p s? th?ch v? ho?n c?nh c? nh?n hay m?c ?? ph?t tri?n v? t?m sinh l? c?a c? nh?n. M?i tr??ng h?c thi?u nh?ng ho?t ??ng nh?m m? h?c sinh l?m ch? v? t? ?? kh?ng ph?t huy ???c kh? n?ng giao ti?p v? l?nh ??o. M?i n?m Vi?t Nam c? tr?n m?t tri?u h?c sinh c?p 3 thi v?o ??i H?c v? ch?ng 15% ??. Nh?ng em kh?ng v?o ???c ??i h?c b??c ch?n v?o ??i r?t k?m v? ngh? chuy?n m?n, phong c?ch con ng??i v? kh? n?ng giao ti?p, v? g?y n?n nhi?u kh? kh?n cho n?n kinh t?. N?u Vi?t Nam mu?n c? m?t n?n gi?o d?c c?p 1-3 ?a d?ng, ??y l? m?t s? ph??ng c?ch t? Hoa K? : - Ch??ng tr?nh c?p 1-2 c?a Hoa K? c?ng bao g?m ki?n th?c t?ng qu?t ? tr?nh ?? thi?u nhi. L?p h?c c? ch?ng 20 - 30 h?c sinh do ?? th?y c? bi?t r? t?ng em m?t v? khuy?n kh?ch t? suy ngh?, ch?t v?n, ph?t bi?u ? ki?n d? ??ng hay sai, thuy?t tr?nh, v? tham gia v?o nhi?u ho?t ??ng nh?m ?? ph?t huy phong c?ch con ng??i v? kh? n?ng giao ti?p t? l?c b?. - Ch??ng tr?nh c?p 3 c?a Hoa K? theo h? th?ng t?n ch?, c? nhi?u m?n t? ch?n ( 30% c?a ch??ng tr?nh ), v? cho h?c sinh r?t nhi?u l?a ch?n nh? khi n?o s? h?c m?t m?n, m?n n?o h?p s? th?ch v? kh? n?ng, tr?nh ?? n?o ( h?c ra l?m c?ng nh?n, h?c ?? v?o tr??ng ??i h?c ti?u bang, hay h?c ?? c? th? ???c nh?n v?o Harvard), nh?ng m?n n?o h?p m?t chuy?n ng?nh ? ??i H?c, th?m ch? c? th? k?o d?i hay r?t ng?n th?i gian ra tr??ng. Ch??ng tr?nh h?c ??y linh ??ng n?y th?ch ?ng ???c v?i s? kh?c bi?t v? th?ng minh, t?i ch?nh, s? tr??ng th?nh v? t?m sinh l?, ho?n c?nh gia ??nh c?a m?i h?c sinh, v? t? ?? ph?t huy ???c s? ?am m? h?c v? kh? n?ng s?ng t?o. - H?c sinh M? ???c khuy?n kh?ch tham kh?o, ch?t v?n, th?o lu?n v? ph?t bi?u nh?ng g? m?nh th?ch hay b?c x?c m? kh?ng b? ch?nh quy?n, nh? tr??ng hay th?y c? c?m ?o?n. Tr??ng th??ng c? nhi?u ho?t ??ng nh?m do h?c sinh l?m ch? nh? hi?p h?i trong v? li?n tr??ng. H?c sinh t? ch?n l?nh ??o c?a hi?p h?i qua tranh c?, v? th?c t?p kh? n?ng giao ti?p v? l?nh ??o ? tu?i thi?u ni?n. ??o T?o Kh? N?ng T?o T? Ch?c ? C?p ??i H?c World Economic Forum 2006 x?p h?ng gi?o d?c ??i H?c r?t th?p, 90/125. Khi so v?i nh?ng n??c c? nh?ng ?i?m t??ng ??ng nh? ??ng d?n v? n?n v?n h?a l?u ??i, th? h?ng ??i H?c c?a Vi?t Nam r?i v?o 10% ch?t c?a th? gi?i. Th?t b?i n?ng nh?t c?a ??i H?c Vi?t Nam l? ??o t?o r?t ?t sinh vi?n v?i kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n cao th?ch h?p v?i ??i h?i c?a n?n kinh t? to?n c?u. Gi?ng nh? ph? th?ng, ??i H?c kh?ng gi?p sinh vi?n ph?t tri?n ???c nh?ng kh? n?ng quan tr?ng nh? giao ti?p, s?ng t?o, l?nh ??o v? phong c?ch con ng??i v? ch??ng tr?nh, ph??ng ph?p gi?ng d?y, h? th?ng t? ch?c v? qu?n l? thi?u t?nh c?ch linh ho?t, v? kh?ng b?t k?p th?i cu?c. M?i n?m Vi?t Nam c? ch?ng 150 ng?n sinh vi?n ra tr??ng, v? ch? c? 5 - 10% sinh vi?n gi?i nh?t v?i tr?nh ?? ti?ng Anh v? kh? n?ng giao ti?p cao t?m ???c vi?c l?m v?i thu nh?p t?m ?? ( ch?ng 300 - 500 ?? la m?t th?ng ) t? c?ng ty n??c ngo?i. 90 - 95% c?n l?i kh?ng c? vi?c l?m, hay c? vi?c v?i thu nh?p r?t th?p ( ch?ng 100 ?? la m?t th?ng ). ??y l? m?t th?t b?i l?n c?a gi?o d?c ??i H?c Vi?t Nam . N?u Vi?t Nam mu?n c?i c?ch ??o t?o con ng??i ? c?p ??i H?c , ??y l? m?t s? ph??ng c?ch t? Hoa K?. - ? Hoa K?, c? quan ki?m ??nh ch?t l??ng ??c l?p b?o ??m s? c?p nh?p h?a c?a ch??ng tr?nh h?c v? tr??ng c? ?? kh? n?ng gi?p sinh vi?n ??t ???c kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n ? tr?nh ?? cao. - H?i ??ng qu?n tr? l? c? quan l?nh ??o cao nh?t c?a ??i H?c M?, ch?n l?nh ??o tr??ng, v? th?nh vi?n th??ng l? nh?ng ng??i th?nh ??t ? ??a ph??ng. M?i chuy?n ng?nh th??ng ???c h??ng d?n b?i m?t h?i ??ng c? v?n v? th?nh vi?n l? nh?ng ng??i th?nh ??t trong ng?nh. Nh?ng h?i ??ng n?y h??ng d?n ??i H?c ??o t?o kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n m? x? h?i c?n nh? ??i H?c n?n d?y m?n v? ngh?nh n?o, v? d?y ra sao ?? sinh vi?n c? th? h?i nh?p nhanh khi ra tr??ng. - H? th?ng c?ng ??ng ( Cao ??ng, community college ) c?a Hoa K? ??y r?y ? m?i ??a ph??ng, v? c? 3 ch??ng tr?nh ??o t?o: ngh? ng?n h?n (t? 3 ??n 6 th?ng), ngh? d?i h?n (hai n?m), v? v?n h?a ?? chuy?n ti?p ??i H?c (hai n?m). Sinh vi?n t?t nghi?p Cao ??ng v?n h?a chuy?n th?ng v?o n?m th? 3 c?a ??i H?c ?? h?c chuy?n m?n ? tr?nh ?? cao. D?y ngh? ? nhi?u c?p b?c v? li?n th?ng gi?a Cao ??ng v? ??i H?c, t?o c? h?i cho nhi?u ng??i ??t ???c kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n ? nhi?u tr?nh ?? kh?c nhau. - Sinh vi?n c? th? chuy?n ng?nh v? tr??ng m?t c?ch d? d?ng ?? h?c nh?ng kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n ph? h?p v?i s? th?ch c? nh?n v? v?i ??i h?i m?i c?a x? h?i. S? ph? h?p ??a ??n ?am m? v? h?c, kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n v? s?ng t?o cao, v? sinh vi?n chuy?n ngh?nh ?? b?t k?p thay ??i m?i c?a n?n kinh t?. - L?i gi?ng d?y ? c?p b?c ??i H?c ? Hoa K? th??ng h??ng d?n sinh vi?n t? h?c, t? nghi?n c?u, l?m ?? ?n, h?c nh?m, vi?t lu?n ?n ng?n v? thuy?t tr?nh. Sinh vi?n ???c t? do suy ngh?, ch?t v?n, th?o lu?n v? ph?t bi?u t?t c? nh?ng g? m?nh mu?n. L?i gi?ng d?y n?y n?ng cao s? n?ng ??ng, t?nh th?n tr?ch nhi?m, kh? n?ng s?ng t?o, giao ti?p v? l?nh ??o. - Ngo?i nh?ng m?n h?c trong l?p, ??i H?c Hoa K? th??ng c? nhi?u ho?t ??ng nh?m do sinh vi?n l?m ch? nh? nhi?u hi?p h?i trong tr??ng v? li?n tr??ng. H?c sinh t? ch?n l?nh ??o c?a nh?ng hi?p h?i qua tranh c?. M? h?nh t? ch?c n?y gi?p sinh vi?n th?c t?p v? ph?t huy kh? n?ng giao ti?p v? l?nh ??o c?a m?nh. ??o T?o Kh? N?ng T?o T? Ch?c Trong X? H?i X? h?i Hoa K? t?o ???c m?t m?i tr??ng th?ch h?p cho s? ph?t huy nh?ng kh? n?ng tr?u t??ng nh? phong c?ch con ng??i, giao ti?p, s?ng t?o v? l?nh ??o. Sau ??y l? m?t s? v? d? v? vai tr? c?a x? h?i trong s? ??o t?o con ng??i ? Hoa K?. - Ng??i d?n h?c ???c s? c?ng b?ng, ??o ??c v? th?nh th?t khi ti?p x?c v?i ch?nh quy?n h?u hi?u, minh b?ch cao, ph?c v? ng??i d?n t?t, c?ng b?ng v?i m?i ng??i d?n, v.v... - T? do ng?n lu?n gi?p ph?t huy s? t? tin v? kh? n?ng giao ti?p. T? do l?p hi?p h?i ??a ??n s? th?nh l?p c?ng ty, hi?p h?i ( chuy?n m?n, t? thi?n, phi ch?nh ph? ), v? t? ?? ph?t huy ???c kh? n?ng l?nh ??o, giao ti?p v? s?ng t?o. - Ng??i d?n quen v?i s? th?nh th?t v? ??o ??c c?a doanh nghi?p trong ??i s?ng h?ng ng?y nh? doanh nghi?p kh?ng b?n gian kh?ch h?ng v? ng??i mua ???c ph?p tr? l?i h?ng trong v?i tu?n ??u n?u kh?ng th?ch. - Kinh t? th? tr??ng v? s? t?n tr?ng tuy?t ??i quy?n s? h?u c? nh?n khuy?n kh?ch con ng??i l?m gi?u qua s? can ??m ??u t? ?? m? c?ng ty l?n m?nh nh? Microsoft, HP, Dell, v.v... - T? Anh ng? nh? "you" v? "I" gi?p ng??i tr? (hay th?p v?) c? nhi?u t? tin trong giao ti?p v?i ng??i l?n tu?i, kh?c ph?i, m?i quen hay cao v?. - Nhi?u ho?t ??ng t?n gi?o gi?p t?n ?? ph?t huy phong c?ch con ng??i v? kh? n?ng giao ti?p nh? ho?t ??ng nh?m, thuy?t tr?nh v? gi?ng ??o, v? thuy?t ph?c ng??i m?i v?o ??o. Nh?ng ?i?u tr?n cho th?y x?y d?ng ???c m?t ??t n??c t? do d?n ch?, ch?nh quy?n minh b?ch cao, c? n?n kinh t? th? tr??ng, ng??i d?n c? ni?m tin cao v?o kh? n?ng c?a ch?nh quy?n trong s? t?n tr?ng tuy?t ??i quy?n s? h?u c? nh?n, v? doanh nghi?p ho?t ??ng v?i ti?u ch? th?nh th?t, ??o ??c, l? m?t m?c ??ch l?u d?i n?u Vi?t Nam mu?n t?o ???c m?t m?i tr??ng t?t cho m?i ng??i d?n t? ph?t huy nh?ng kh? n?ng tr?u t??ng v? t? ?? t?o ???c nhi?u t? ch?c kinh t? l?n gi?u m?nh. Kh? N?ng H?i Nh?p Th? Gi?i Nh?m kh? n?ng h?i nh?p th? gi?i g?m c? ki?n th?c trung th?c v? th? gi?i v? kh? n?ng Anh ng? cao. Ki?n th?c trung th?c l? ki?n th?c kh?ch quan t? nh?ng h?c gi? n?i danh c?a th? gi?i v? kh?ng c? v? l?i hay tham v?ng v? ch?nh tr? hay kinh t? ? Vi?t Nam, g?m ki?n th?c v? nh?ng c? quan l?nh ??o c?a th? gi?i ( Li?n Hi?p Qu?c - United Nations, Ng?n H?ng Th? Gi?i - World Bank, T? ch?c th??ng m?i th? gi?i - WTO, WHO, Vatican, Mecca, th? tr??ng ch?ng kho?n l?n, v.v? ), kinh t? th? gi?i, ch?nh quy?n c?a nh?ng c??ng qu?c, nh?ng n??c c? t?i nguy?n Vi?t Nam c?n hay l? b?n h?ng quan tr?ng c?a Vi?t Nam, nh?ng t? t??ng kinh t? ch?nh tr? l?n, nh?ng n?n v?n h?a th?nh c?ng, nh?ng s?c t?c ??ng d?n s?, nh?ng t?n gi?o ??ng t?n ??, nh?ng ng?n ng? nhi?u ng??i n?i, v.v... Ch??ng tr?nh ph? th?ng v? ??i H?c c?a Vi?t Nam c?n c? nhi?u m?n trung th?c v? th? gi?i ?? gi?p ng??i Vi?t c? c?i nh?n cao r?ng, c? th? quy?t ??nh ch?nh s?t l? m?nh n?n ?i v? ??u, v? l?m sao c?nh tranh ???c v?i th? gi?i. ?? giao ti?p v?i th? gi?i, ng??i Vi?t c?n gi?i ti?ng Anh, m?t ng?n ng? chung c?a th? gi?i. Ti?ng Anh ph?i ? tr?nh ?? cao ?? ?? x? h?i c? th? d?ng ???c. N?u kh?ng, ng??i h?c t? t? s? qu?n ?i nh?ng g? ?? h?c. ? c?p 3, h?c sinh gi?i ph?i giao ti?p ???c v?i ng??i n??c ngo?i, nghe v? hi?u ???c Anh ng? t? radio v? tivi n??c ngo?i; ? c?p ??i H?c, ph?i n?i v? vi?t ???c ti?ng Anh chuy?n ng?nh; v? ? c?p cao h?c, ph?i thuy?t tr?nh ???c v? tranh lu?n nh?ng ?? t?i ch?nh trong ng?nh. Hi?n t?i Vi?t Nam l? m?t n??c v?i thu nh?p ??u ng??i r?t th?p, ch?a c? nh?ng c?ng ty ??c l?p gi?u m?nh ? t?m c? qu?c t?, v? ch?a c? ??a v? cao tr?n th? gi?i. ?i?u n?y cho th?y kh? n?ng h?i nh?p th? gi?i c?a Vi?t Nam c?n ph?i ???c n?ng c?p th?t nhi?u. Song song v?i vi?c ??o t?o kh? n?ng t?o t? ch?c, ng??i Vi?t c?n n?ng c?p kh? n?ng ti?ng Anh v? c? s? hi?u bi?t trung th?c v? th? gi?i ?? ch?ng ti?n l?n nh? Singapore v? H?ng K?ng. L?i K?t Trong ba th?p ni?n qua Vi?t Nam v?n c?n l? m?t n??c ngh?o v? c? m?t n?n Gi?o D?c th?p k?m. K?t qu? l? ng??i Vi?t kh?ng t?o ???c nh?ng t? ch?c kinh t? ??c l?p l?n m?nh v? ch? ?i l?m gia c?ng cho ng??i n??c ngo?i hay l?m ru?ng c? ?i?n v?i thu nh?p th?t th?p. Vi?t Nam c?n c? m?t cu?c c?ch m?ng v? gi?o d?c s?m ?? t?o ???c nh?ng t? ch?c kinh t? l?n c? th? c?nh tranh ???c v?i th? gi?i. N?u kh?ng, ng??i Vi?t s? kh?ng t? ch? ???c ch?nh m?nh v? kinh t?, ti?p t?c l?m gia c?ng cho c?ng ty n??c ngo?i v?i ??ng l??ng r? m?t, v? c? m?t t??ng lai m? m?t m?c d? ?? ???c v?o WTO. GS TS Tr?n V?n Hi?n CPA, ?H Houston-Clear Lake, Texas, Hoa K? -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Attorney of Law Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070502/43c0c700/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hoanh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nadya Williams Date: May 3, 2007 2:06 AM Subject: Radio Program from Stanford - United Nations Remembrance Day for Victims of Chemical Warfare, focus on AO and DU To: "ALL STAFF @ GX" I had the honor of being on a radio program, on Monday, April 30th, KZSU, 90 FM the Stanford Univ. station, for the 10th annual United Nations Remembrance Day for Victims of Chemical Warfare, which was on Sunday, April 29th. The focus of the program was on Agent Orange and Depleted Uranium, SE Asia, the Middle East and the current lawsuit filed by Viet Namese AO victims against Dow and Monsanto. Lawsuit hearing coming up June 18th in New York court. The show is hosted by Susan Galleymore, mother of an active duty US military personnel. Every Monday, 2 to 3 pm, called "Raising Sand" - she covers many important topics very well. The show had been uploaded and you can link to it from : http://raisingsand.blogspot.com/ Also her web: Motherspeak.org Nadya <><><><> Nadya Connolly Williams Office Days are: Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays only. Study Tour Coordinator for: Jamaica, the north of Ireland, India, China, Viet Nam, Laos & Cambodia - for Global Exchange, a non-profit international peace & human rights NGO Global Exchange 2017 Mission Street, Second Floor, San Francisco, CA 94110 PHONE: ? Direct: (415) 575-5529 ? Office: (415) 255-7296 Extension 248 ? Toll-free: (800) 497-1994 Ext. 248 FAX: (415) 255-7498 E-MAIL: nadya at globalexchange.org WEB: www.globalexchange.org <><><><><> -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Attorney of Law Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070503/7d44674f/attachment.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Thu May 3 19:14:22 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 22:14:22 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Welcome chi Truong Thi Duc into VNBIZ Message-ID: Dear CACC, Please join to welcome chi Truong Thi Duc into our VNBIZ famoly. Chi Duc bien_lang19832000 at yahoo.com is in marketing, at Kim Vang Informatics Corp, 94/8A Tran Mai Ninh Street, Ward12, Tan Binh Dist, HCM, Tel: 08.2936130, Website: www.kimvang.com. Welcome in, sister Bien Lang. We have subscribed you at the other address that you gave, ductruong at kimvang.com . If you need to subscribe the yahoo address also, please kindly let us know. Your web name Bien Lang reminds me of Xuan Quynh's Thuyen va Bien, in which Bien mauy get stormy at times. Good that you'd like to be calm sea :-) Please feel free to share your heart and mind with us, chi Duc. Have a great day! Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070503/26930b37/attachment.html From hdangthu at gmail.com Thu May 3 22:54:08 2007 From: hdangthu at gmail.com (huong dang thu) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:54:08 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Fw: Annoucement of a training course on HIV research and prevention In-Reply-To: <299534.17978.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <299534.17978.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4badee940705032254x432b0adcld7f429694a837239@mail.gmail.com> I remember that some bro and sis in our forum interest in Public Health. This is some info about a work shop on HIV research and prevention. This info comes from my friend, bro Thanh-Dr.PH student of Health Promotion and Behavioral Sciences, University of Texas. If you inrest in this event, please feel free to contact for registration. Even further, I believe you can find exciting to work with Thanh in any relevant Public Health issue. :) HeO ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "Bui, Thanh C" To: chicothuyen at yahoo.com Cc: "Phan, Ha Thi T" ; "Dang, Chinh V" < Chinh.V.Dang at uth.tmc.edu>; "Ha, Toan H" Sent: Friday, May 4, 2007 5:55:32 AM Subject: Annoucement of a training course on HIV research and prevention (Please help us to forward this annoucement to individuals or organizations working on HIV or public health in general). Dear Colleagues, The Center for International Training and AIDS Research, School of Public Health - University of Texas at Houston, US will collaborate with the Tu Du Hospital and Ngoc Tam University in Ho Chi Minh City to conduct a training workshop from July 30 to August 3, 2007 in the area of HIV entitled: *"TRAINING WORKSHOP ON HIV PREVENTION AND RESEARCH"* The aims of the training is to provide trainees with the most novel and advanced approach to design and implement the theory-based behavior change intervention, behavioral epidemiology and program evaluation applied to HIV prevention and research. The training course will use the problem-based learning method including lectures, brainstorming and group discussions. The lecture will be delivered in English, and group discussions will be held in Vietnamese. The instructors will be six leading US professors from the Center for International Training and AIDS Research, School of Public Health - University of Texas at Houston: - R. Palmer Beasley, M.D., Professor of Epidemiology and Disease Control - Lu-Yu Hwang, M.D., Professor of Epidemiology & Disease Control - Patricia Mullen, Dr.PH., Professor of Behavioral Sciences and Health Promotion - Mark Williams, PhD., Professor of Behavioral Sciences and Health Promotion - Dejian Lai, PhD, Professor of Biostatistics - Edward Graviss, PhD, Associate Professor of Pathology - Epidemiology Working with the instructors to develop the training curriculum and facilitate the course will be Vietnamese doctoral candidates at the Center for International Training and AIDS Research and School of Public Health - University of Texas at Houston: - Bui Cong Thanh ? Dr.PH student of Health Promotion and Behavioral Sciences - Phan Thi Thu Ha ? Doctoral Candidate in Epidemiology and Global Health - Dang Van Chinh - Doctoral Candidate in Epidemiology and Disease Control - Ha Huu Toan - Doctoral Candidate in Health Promotion and Behavioral Sciences - Vu Chinh Thien? Doctoral Candidate in Health Policy and Management - Nguyen Tan Minh Duc - Doctoral student of Epidemiology and Disease Control The training workshop will cover tuition fee, room and board and refreshments during the workshop. The workshop will not cover travel cost or living expense for participants to attend the training workshop. Finally, workshop participants are expected to contribute $20 for their lunches during the training workshop. The registration form is attached in this email. For those who are interested, please fill out the application form electronically and submit via email to *chicothuyen at yahoo.com*, cc to *steinriver at yahoo.com*and *chinhdang2004 at yahoo.com* no later than June 15, 2007. Sincerely, Training workshop organizers ------------------ *Thanh Cong Bui, MD, MPH* Graduate Research Assistant - DrPH student Center for Health Promotion and Prevention Research (CHPPR) The University of Texas at Houston - School of Public Health 7000 Fannin, Ste. 2610H Houston, TX 77030 Tel: 713-500-9655 Fax: 713-500-9602 thanh.c.bui at uth.tmc.edu ------------------------------ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/3d2dc561/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Registration_for_CITAR___2007.doc Type: application/msword Size: 68096 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/3d2dc561/attachment-0002.doc -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/ee61baeb/attachment.html From nhonpt at gmail.com Fri May 4 06:59:42 2007 From: nhonpt at gmail.com (Pham Thanh Nhon) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 20:59:42 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <67d7be8e0705040659r3848d708t23e38369422d599b@mail.gmail.com> Dear bro, It's unlucky! I hope your mother will get recovery early. Look fw to hearing good new from you. On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > Dear CACC, > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. > Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That > means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to > your message, you know why. 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/96f38524/attachment.html From Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov Fri May 4 07:35:50 2007 From: Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov (Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:35:50 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/4fbf1eef/attachment.html From t.nguyen at unido.or.th Fri May 4 08:29:31 2007 From: t.nguyen at unido.or.th (Nguyen Khac Tiep) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 22:29:31 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <010801c78e61$03a586e0$520a0ac8@UNIDOTH> Dear Anh Hoanh, We share your concerns about your mom's illness. Pls. spend as much of your time as possible with her. We sincerely wish her a quick recuperation. Tiep. Nguyen Khac Tiep, (Mr.) Industrial Development Officer UNIDO Regional Office in Bangkok for Cambodia, Lao PDR, Malaysia, Myanmar and Thailand E-mail 1: T.Nguyen at unido.or.th E-mail 2: T.Nguyen at unido.org Web: www.unido.org _____ From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of Tran Dinh Hoanh Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:47 PM To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: My Schedule To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Dear CACC, My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. Have a good day, Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/643d549e/attachment.html From toanducpham at gmail.com Fri May 4 09:02:01 2007 From: toanducpham at gmail.com (ToanDucPham@GMail.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 23:02:01 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom Message-ID: Dear Anh Hoanh, Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. Em Toan. On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > Dear CACC, > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. > Have a good day, > Hoanh > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070504/4a3c4340/attachment.html From outlook124 at gmail.com Fri May 4 19:42:52 2007 From: outlook124 at gmail.com (Hai M. Tran) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 09:42:52 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh and CACC, Best wishes to anh Hoanh's mom. I think she is going to get well very soon Great day, Hai On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > Dear Anh Hoanh, > Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. > Em Toan. > > > > > On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > > Subject: My Schedule > > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > Dear CACC, > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > convenience this may generate. > > Have a good day, > > Hoanh > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > Washington DC > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Hai M. Tran, LLB Hanoi, Vietnam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/19e19c29/attachment.html From tranlethuy at netnam.vn Fri May 4 19:54:58 2007 From: tranlethuy at netnam.vn (Tran Le Thuy) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 09:54:58 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200705050239.l452dqG1008194@smtp.netnam.vn> Dear anh Hoanh, My best wishes to your mom and family. I hope she will recover soon. Take care Thuy -----Original Message----- From: "ToanDucPham at GMail.com" To: VnBiz Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 23:02:01 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom >[ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > From thuthuy12 at gmail.com Fri May 4 20:24:43 2007 From: thuthuy12 at gmail.com (Nguyen Thi Thu Thuy) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:24:43 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, I am very sorry to hear about that. With both of you and all other family members by her side, I am sure that your mom will recover very soon. Please convey my very best wishes to her. May your mom fully recover and get better soon. Em Thuy On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > Dear CACC, > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. > Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That > means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to > your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. > > > Have a good day, > > Hoanh > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/5315d401/attachment.html From thanhan2505 at gmail.com Fri May 4 21:19:18 2007 From: thanhan2505 at gmail.com (Pham Thi Thanh An) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:19:18 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <463c05cc.1e7360cc.6c27.ffff87e8@mx.google.com> Dear A. Hoanh and C.Phuong, Our best prayers for your mom?s health! Please let us know whenever she is better. Hai em Truong, An _____ From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of Tran Dinh Hoanh Sent: 04 May 2007 19:47 To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: My Schedule To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Dear CACC, My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. Have a good day, Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/c1f36ec7/attachment.html From thquangvn at gmail.com Fri May 4 21:27:49 2007 From: thquangvn at gmail.com (Quang Tran Hai) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:27:49 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: <200705050239.l452dqG1008194@smtp.netnam.vn> References: <200705050239.l452dqG1008194@smtp.netnam.vn> Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh, I wish she will get well very soon. Take a good care of yourself and the family. Bests, Quang ________________________________________ Cell: +84 913 008 903 Yahoo ID: thquangvn MSN ID: thquangvn Skype_ID: thquang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/69627ff5/attachment.html From nhuung at gmail.com Fri May 4 22:06:53 2007 From: nhuung at gmail.com (Nhung) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:06:53 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <463c10f4.650d1267.457a.ffffe136@mx.google.com> Dear anh Hoanh & chi Phuong, Wish that your mom would be okay soon and everything's fine there. We are very grateful for your contribution in this forum and your mom should be so proud of you. -nhung NGUYEN HONG NHUNG N & J Mobile : +84 903 38 28 70 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: My Schedule To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Dear CACC, My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. Have a good day, Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/6efdfaa6/attachment.html From tammyandpartners at gmail.com Sat May 5 03:02:03 2007 From: tammyandpartners at gmail.com (Tammy & Partners) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 12:02:03 +0200 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: <463c10f4.650d1267.457a.ffffe136@mx.google.com> References: <463c10f4.650d1267.457a.ffffe136@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh & chi Phuong, So sorry to hear that, do hope for your Mama soon recover and good health. We are waiting for the good news from your beloved Mami. With warmest wish, Tammy, Germany On 5/5/07, Nhung wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear anh Hoanh & chi Phuong, > > Wish that your mom would be okay soon and everything's fine there. We are > very grateful for your contribution in this forum and your mom should be so > proud of you. > > -nhung > > > > NGUYEN HONG NHUNG > > N & J > > Mobile : +84 903 38 28 70 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Tran Dinh Hoanh* > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > Dear CACC, > > > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. > Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That > means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to > your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. > > > > > Have a good day, > > > > Hoanh > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > > > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Tammy Bui Nguyen Chief Rep. Tammy & Partners B?ro 10, Meeranerstr. 9, 12681 Berlin, Germany Tel: 030/ 501 736 78 030/ 549 856 70 Fax:030/ 549 856 71 Funk: 0176/ 23 1987 26 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/153822bc/attachment.html From viet.aikidorb at gmail.com Sat May 5 03:02:32 2007 From: viet.aikidorb at gmail.com (Le Quoc Viet) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:02:32 +0800 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: <200705050239.l452dqG1008194@smtp.netnam.vn> Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh & chi Phuong, I'm very sorry to hear about that. We hope that she will recover soon. Best wishes to your Mom. Regards, Viet. From trong.dan at vietcapital.vn Sat May 5 06:04:18 2007 From: trong.dan at vietcapital.vn (Dan Vietcapital) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:04:18 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: <463c05cc.1e7360cc.6c27.ffff87e8@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <20070505130434.D422712519B@tin.le.org> Dear anh Hoanh, chi Phuong: We pray that all may go well with your Mom. Regards, Dan _____ From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of Tran Dinh Hoanh Sent: 04 May 2007 19:47 To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: My Schedule To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Dear CACC, My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. Have a good day, Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nh?ng ng?nh n?y th?c t? kh?ng c? hi?u qu? kinh t? cao, nh?ng l? ph? h?p v?i ho?n c?nh v? ti?m l?c n??c ta trong giai ?o?n ??u ph?t tri?n c?ng nghi?p. Nh?ng ng?nh c?ng nghi?p n?y tr??c ti?n ?? ??p ?ng nhu c?u ti?u d?ng trong n??c, b?o ??m ??i s?ng nh?n d?n v? ?n ??nh t?nh h?nh x? h?i V?n ?? l? t? nay t?i n?m 2020, song song vi?c duy tr? ph?t tri?n b?n v?ng c?c ng?nh ngh? ?? ??t ???c, ?? ph?t tri?n nhanh h?n, ??t ???c m?c ti?u hi?n ??i v? C?ng Nghi?p H?a v?i GDP tr?n ??u ng??i ??t tr?n 5000 USD, ch?ng ta c?n l?a ch?n c?c ng?nh c?ng nghi?p n?o cho ph? h?p v? ph?i ti?n h?nh ph?t tri?n ra sao? M?c ti?u ng?n h?n Vai tr? c?a ch?nh ph? l? t?o m?i tr??ng ?? c?c doanh nghi?p ho?t ??ng c? hi?u qu?. ???ng l?i v? ch?nh s?ch cu? ch?nh ph? n?n c?i thi?n nh?m t?ng b??c ph?i h?p c?ng doanh nghi?p gi?i quy?t nh?ng kh? kh?n v??ng m?c, v? kh?c ph?c s? khi?m khuy?t c?a th? tr??ng ph?t sinh t? m?i kh?a c?nh. Ch?nh ph? c?n ph?n t?ch, xem x?t, gi?m s?t ??ng th?i ??m b?o s? nh?t qu?n c?a nh?ng ch?nh s?ch li?n quan. T?o l?p s?ch l??c nh?m khuy?n kh?ch v? h? tr? trong vi?c canh t?n, c?i ti?n c?c ho?t ??ng v? m?i m?t Doanh nghi?p c? ??u t? v?n n??c ngo?i ( FDI ) Doanh nghi?p ??u t? v?n n??c ngo?i ( FDI ) l? nh?n t? quan tr?ng trong vi?c khai m? th? tr??ng xu?t kh?u. M?t kh?c, FDI c?n gi?p hu?n luy?n nh?ng chuy?n vi?n k? thu?t, ??i ng? qu?n l? trong vi?c n?ng cao k? n?ng v? b? quy?t th?nh c?ng tr?n th??ng tr??ng. Vi?t Nam c?n c?i t? c?c ch?nh s?ch nh?: t?i ch?nh, m?u d?ch, ti?n t?, h? th?ng thu? m?, ng?n h?ng l? nh?ng tr?ng ?i?m ??ng ch? ? ?? t?o m?i tr??ng ??u t? h?p d?n, n?ng cao kh? n?ng thu h?t ngu?n v?n ??u t? t? n??c ngo?i nh?m k?ch th?ch v? ??y m?nh th? tr??ng xu?t kh?u h?n n?a. Doanh nghi?p nh? v? v?a Doanh nghi?p nh? v? v?a ??ng vai tr? quan tr?ng trong n?n kinh t? qu?c gia t? vi?c ph?t tri?n kinh t? ??n ph? c?p, ?ng d?ng khoa h?c c?ng ngh?, v? t?o c?ng vi?c l?m m?i. C?c doanh nghi?p n?y c? v?n ??u t? v?a t?m ph? c?p c?a ?a s? doanh nh?n, l? ??u m?i ?? ph?t tri?n c?c ng?nh kinh t? ph?c v? d?n sinh, th??ng l? c?c doanh nghi?p v? tinh, d?ch v?, s?n xu?t chi ti?t, ph? t?ng cho c?c t?p ?o?n c?ng nghi?p. Do t?nh ph? c?p r?ng r?i, c?c doanh nghi?p v?a v? nh? s? t?o ???c r?t nhi?u c?ng vi?c l?m m?i. Ch?nh ph? hi?n nay ?? c? nh?ng ch?nh s?ch th?ng tho?ng cho s? ra ??i, ph?t tri?n nh?ng doanh nghi?p n?y, tuy nhi?n trong b??c ??t ph? s?p t?i Ch?nh ph? c?n c? nh?ng ch??ng tr?nh ??c bi?t khuy?n kh?ch v? h? tr? h?n n?a, ??nh gi? cao h?n t?m quan tr?ng c?a c?c doanh nghi?p nh? v? v?a trong c?ng cu?c hi?n ??i h?a, c?ng nghi?p h?a ??t n??c. Ch?nh ph? c?n c? nh?ng ch??ng tr?nh h? tr? nh?p kh?u v? ?ng d?ng khoa h?c c?ng ngh? r?ng r?i, t?o ?i?u ki?n thu?n l?i cho nh?ng doanh nghi?p n?y v? ??t ?ai, vay v?n v? ?u ??i v? thu? cho nh?ng ng?nh then ch?t ho?c s? d?ng nhi?u lao ??ng C?c doanh nghi?p qu?c doanh Trong ?i?u ki?n tr??c m?t Ch?nh ph? v?n c?n duy tr? t? l? th?ch h?p nh?ng doanh nghi?p n?y, v? nh?t l? nh?ng ng?nh kinh t? then ch?t, c?c c? s? h? t?ng ph?c v? d?n sinh. ?? n?ng cao t?nh c?nh tranh c?a nh?ng ??n v? kinh t? n?y, vi?c tr??c ti?n l? c?n ??y m?nh c?i ti?n v? t?ng t?nh hi?u qu? tr?n c? s? v?t ch?t hi?n c?. Nh?ng ??n v? kinh t? kh?ng c? kh? n?ng c?nh tranh c?n lo?i b?, s?t nh?p, ho?c thanh l? H?nh ??ng quy?t li?t n?y c?a ch?nh ph? s? l? s?c ?p b?t bu?c nh?ng doanh nghi?p qu?c doanh mu?n t?n t?i ph?i t? c?i t?o m?nh, t?ng c??ng s? c?nh tranh s?ng c?n c?a c?c doanh nghi?p. M?t khi Vi?t Nam tham gia v?o t? ch?c Th??ng m?i th? gi?i ( WTO ) nh?ng th?nh ph?n kinh t? qu?c doanh s? kh? nh?n ???c s? b?o h? b?i ch?nh ph? v? s? ph?i t? c?nh tranh ?? sinh t?n. C?i c?ch ng?nh Khoa h?c c?ng ngh? H? th?ng c?c c? s? nghi?n c?u v? ?ng d?ng khoa h?c c?ng ngh? hi?n nay c?a n??c ta qu? c?ng k?nh, ?t hi?u qu?, v? ??c bi?t kh?ng g?n li?n v?i nhu c?u ph?t tri?n c?a c?c ng?nh kinh t?. Ch?nh ph? c?n c? c?c h?nh ??ng c?i c?ch m?nh m? v? t? ch?c, cung c?ch l?m vi?c c?a ng?nh khoa h?c c?ng ngh? , c? nh?ng ch?nh s?ch h?p l? nh?m ph?t huy ti?m n?ng c?a h?ng ng? tri th?c. ?? qu?n l? v? ??a ra ???c c?c ? ki?n t? v?n v? khoa h?c c?ng ngh? c?a c?c B?, Ng?nh, Nh? n??c c?n thi?t l?p l?i ?y Ban Qu?n l? khoa h?c c?ng ngh? Nh? n??c, thay v? B? khoa h?c c?ng ngh? hi?n nay ( ch? n?m ngang h?ng v?i c?c B?, Ng?nh kh?c ). ?y ban Qu?n l? khoa h?c c?ng ngh? Nh? n??c l? c? quan qu?n l? t?ng h?p khoa h?c c?ng ngh? c?a c?c B?, Ng?nh, do ?? s? ??a ra ???c c?c t? v?n v? c?c ch??ng tr?nh khoa h?c c?ng ngh? Qu?c gia tr?ng ?i?m, s?t th?c v?i y?u c?u c?a th?c t? ph?t tri?n c?a c?c Ng?nh kinh t? kh?c nhau. ?? gi?p ?y Ban th?c hi?n c?c ch??ng tr?nh tr?ng ?i?m, tr??c khi m? r?ng v?o c?c l?nh v?c s?n xu?t c?a c?c B?, Ng?nh, d??i ?y Ban c?n c? m?t T?ng c?ng ty ( ho?c Li?n hi?p ) Nghi?n c?u v? ?ng d?ng khoa h?c c?ng ngh? Qu?c gia, thay v? Vi?n khoa h?c c?ng ngh? Qu?c gia hi?n nay. T?ng c?ng ty ???c t?p trung ngu?n ng?n s?ch v? vi?n tr? ?? ??u t? con ng??i v? trang thi?t b? ??y ?? cho c?c Ng?nh khoa h?c c?ng ngh? tr?ng ?i?m Qu?c gia. C?c c? s? n?y ngo?i ch?c n?ng th?c hi?n ho?c t? ch?c th?c hi?n c?c ch??ng tr?nh khoa h?c c?ng ngh? tr?ng ?i?m Qu?c gia ( theo ??n ??t h?ng c?a ?y Ban Qu?n L? khoa h?c c?ng ngh? Nh? N??c), c?n ??ng vai tr? l? m?t ch? khoa h?c c?ng ngh? v? c?c gi?i ph?p, ph?c v? tr?c ti?p cho m?i th?nh ph?n kinh t? qu?c d?n c? nhu c?u. ? ??y, m?i doanh nghi?p, m?i t? ch?c, c? nh?n, m?i th?nh ph?n kinh t? trong n??c, ngo?i n??c ??u c? th? t?m ???c c?c gi?i ph?p khoa h?c c?ng ngh? cho s? nghi?p s?n xu?t kinh doanh c?a m?nh. B?n c?nh ??, Ch?nh ph? n?n thi?t l?p c?c c? ch? h? tr? c?c doanh nghi?p nh?p kh?u khoa h?c c?ng ngh? ti?n ti?n, ti?t ki?m n?ng l??ng, v?t t?, nu?i d??ng h? th?ng ph?t tri?n khoa h?c c?ng ngh? nh?m khuy?n kh?ch, h? tr?, v? t?ng b??c n?ng cao kh? n?ng c?nh tranh c?a c?c doanh nghi?p m?i th?nh ph?n kinh t?. C? ch?nh s?ch khuy?n kh?ch nghi?n c?u khoa h?c c? b?n nh?m m?c ??ch ph?t tri?n khoa h?c ?ng d?ng m?t c?ch hi?u qu?. C?i c?ch ng?nh Gi?o d?c v? ??o t?o ?? cung c?p nh?n l?c ??y ?? v? c? ch?t l??ng cho c?ng cu?c ph?t tri?n kinh t? n?i chung v? cho c?c ng?nh c?ng nghi?p n?i ri?ng, ng?nh Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o kh?ng ph?i ch? theo k?p m? ph?i ?i tr??c m?t b??c ?? ??p ?ng c?c ??i h?i c?p b?ch c?a th?c t? s?n xu?t. Hi?n tr?ng Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o hi?n nay qu? d?n tr?i, chi ph? chi?m t? l? GDP qu? cao so v?i c?c n??c c?ng ho?n c?nh m? ch?t l??ng ??o t?o kh?ng theo k?p y?u c?u ph?t tri?n c?a s?n xu?t. Ngay c? trong c?c n??c khu v?c nh? Th?i Lan, Philipine, Malaysia ??u c? c?c Tr??ng ??i h?c ???c c?ng nh?n ??t ??ng c?p ch?u ?? ?? t?p trung ???c ngu?n l?c t?i ch?nh v? ??u t? ng?n s?ch c?a Nh? n??c, ph?t huy h?p l? ??ng g?p c?a x? h?i v? th?c hi?n ???c m?c ti?u h?i nh?p v?i tr?nh ?? th? gi?i, ng?nh Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o chuy?n gia ph?i ph?n ra r? r?t 3 th? lo?i tr??ng ??i h?c v? D?y ngh? kh?c nhau. ??i v?i m?i lo?i ??u quy ??nh m?c ti?u ??o t?o r? r?ng, c? gi?o tr?nh th?ch h?p v? c? c?c ??a ch? b?o ??m ??u v?o v? ??u ra, kh?ng ??o t?o l?ng ph?. Nh?ng ph??ng ?n c? th? nh? sau: 1. C?c Tr??ng ??i h?c T?ng h?p c? ??ng c?p Qu?c t? ho?c khu v?c: S? l??ng : T?i ?a ch? c?n 1 tr??ng ??i H?c T?ng h?p Qu?c gia v? 1 tr??ng ??i H?c T?ng h?p Qu?c t?. Nhi?m v? : Ch? ??o t?o c?c chuy?n gia chi?n l??c, c?c nh? khoa h?c t? nhi?n, x? h?i v? c?ng ngh? chuy?n s?u, tr?ng ?i?m Qu?c gia ( c? th? s? thay ??i cho ph? h?p theo t?ng th?i k? ). Ch? ?? : Nh? n??c t?p trung kinh ph?, ng?n s?ch v? t?i tr? t? b?n ngo?i. Gi?o vi?n v? gi?o tr?nh : X?y d?ng t? c?c gi?o tr?nh 20 ??i h?c h?ng ??u Th? gi?i. Gi?ng vi?n: thu? Gi?o S? n??c ngo?i, Gi?o S? Vi?t ki?u t? nguy?n, Gi?o S? trong n??c ?? ti?u chu?n. ??u v?o : C?c th? sinh ??u ??u b?ng trong k? thi tuy?n sinh n?m ?? v? C?c Sinh vi?n xu?t s?c h?c xong n?m th? nh?t c?a c?c tr??ng lo?i ph?a d??i. Thi tuy?n theo ph?ng v?n c?a c?c gi?o s? ??u ng?nh. ??u ra : Nh? n??c b?o ??m c?c ??a ch? s? d?ng cho c?c chuy?n gia v? c?c Nh? khoa h?c ??t tr?nh ?? xu?t s?c. Th? tr??ng v? doanh nghi?p s? d?ng ph?n c?n l?i. 2. C?c tr??ng ??i h?c chuy?n nghi?p v? d?y ngh? do c?c B?, Ng?nh qu?n l? chuy?n m?n, ??o t?o v? c?p kinh ph? ch? y?u. S? l??ng : Gi?i h?n m?i b? ho?c ng?nh kh?ng qu? 1 tr??ng ??i h?c v? 2 tr??ng d?y ngh?. B? ??i h?c v? Gi?o D?c ch? qu?n l? t?nh h?nh, th?ng k? t?ng h?p, t? v?n cho Nh? n??c c?c ch? ??o v? can thi?p c?n thi?t theo Lu?t Gi?o d?c. Kinh ph? : Nh? n??c ch? h? tr? kinh ph? v? nghi?p v? theo kh? n?ng th?c t?. T?m t?i tr? t? b?n ngo?i. ??ng g?p c?a c?c ??n v? s? d?ng nh?n l?c ( ??o t?o theo ??a ch? ). Gi?ng vi?n : Do c?c B? chuy?n ng?nh qu?n l?: Thu? Gi?o S? qu?c t?, Gi?o S? Vi?t ki?u t? nguy?n, Gi?o S? trong n??c ??ng chuy?n m?n, kinh nghi?m v? ngh? nghi?p Gi?o tr?nh : X?y d?ng t? gi?o tr?nh c?c tr??ng chuy?n nghi?p Top 20 h?ng ??u Th? gi?i, c?ng ?i?u ch?nh theo y?u c?u th?c t? trong n??c c?a c?c Ng?nh. ??u v?o : Thi tuy?n theo chu?n c?a Lu?t Gi?o D?c. ??u ra : B?, ng?nh b?o ??m s? d?ng c?c Sinh Vi?n t?t nghi?p t? kh? tr? l?n. Ph?n c?n l?i th? tr??ng v? c?c doanh nghi?p ??m nh?n. 3. C?c tr??ng ??i h?c v? d?y ngh? chuy?n nghi?p c? ph?n D?n l?p ( n?i ??a v? Qu?c t? ). S? l??ng : M?i ng?nh kh?ng qu? 3 tr??ng ??i h?c, v? 3 tr??ng d?y ngh?, ph?n 3 khu v?c ??a l? B?c, Trung, Nam. ??u v?o : tuy?n sinh theo chu?n c?a Lu?t Gi?o D?c, B? ??i h?c v? Gi?o D?c ch? qu?n l? t?nh h?nh, th?ng k?, t? v?n Nh? n??c can thi?p theo lu?t Gi?o D?c. Gi?o vi?n : Do c?c tr??ng thu? v? tuy?n l?a ngo?i n??c, trong n??c, ?? ti?u chu?n quy ??nh trong Lu?t gi?o d?c. Gi?o tr?nh : l?y t? top 20 c?c tr??ng chuy?n nghi?p Qu?c T?. ??u v?o tuy?n sinh theo chu?n Lu?t Gi?o D?c . Kinh ph? : Do H?c vi?n tr? h?c ph?. C?c t?i tr? c?a c?c ng?nh, t? ch?c qu?c t? ho?c nh? n??c ch? c?p h?c b?ng cho h?c sinh gi?i ho?c h?c sinh ngh?o t? kh? tr? l?n. ??u ra : Cung c?p cho th? tr??ng trong n??c ho?c xu?t kh?u Lao ??ng. Nh? v?y,ch?ng ta ph?i c? Lu?t Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o ?? chi ti?t v? c?c quy ??nh chu?n m?c cho ho?t ??ng Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o, li?n quan ??n c?c th? lo?i ??o t?o n?u tr?n. T??ng t? t? ch?c c?p trung h?c ph? th?ng c?ng ph?i ??p ?ng, b?o ??m s? li?n th?ng m?m m?i gi?a c?c c?p h?c. N?u kh?ng c? s? c?i c?ch m?nh m?, k?p th?i c?a ng?nh Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o, v?i hi?n tr?ng h?m nay c?a Gi?o D?c v? ??o T?o s? l? m?i nguy c? l?n cho s? ph?t tri?n c?a c?c ng?nh c?ng nghi?p v? kinh t? trong t??ng lai. L?i k?t : C? h?i lu?n g?n li?n v?i th? th?ch. V?n m?ng n??c Vi?t trong tay ng??i Vi?t. S? m?ng ch?n h?ng T? qu?c trong tay c?a th? h? ng?y nay, ch? c?n c?ch n?m b?t v?n h?i, v??t qua th? th?ch, v? c?ng nhau h??ng ??n t??ng lai. CHI?U M? HI?N T?I, CH?N H?NG V? KI?N THI?T ??T N??C Hi?n c? h?ng tr?m ng?n ng??i Vi?t ???c ??o t?o, r?n luy?n v? l?m vi?c trong c?c ng?nh khoa h?c, k? thu?t ti?n ti?n ?ang s?ng t?i h?i ngo?i, v? ??y l? ti?m n?ng kh?ng nh? trong vi?c ch?n h?ng v? ki?n thi?t ??t n??c. V? v?y vi?c ??a ???c nh?ng ngu?n ch?t x?m n?y v? n??c l? m?t ho?t ??ng c?n thi?t. Hi?n nay ? Vi?t Nam c?c khu c?ng nghi?p ???c ph?t tri?n m?nh m?, nh?ng c?ng ty trong c?c khu c?ng nghi?p ph?n l?n t?p trung v?o c?c ngh?nh s?n xu?t, t?n d?ng nh?n c?ng r?, kh?ng c? kh? n?ng nghi?n c?u, ph?t tri?n v? ch? t?o nh?ng s?n ph?m m?i m? d?a v?o nh?ng c?ng ngh? ?? ho?n ch?nh ?? t?n t?i. M?t khi n?n kinh t? Vi?t Nam ph?t tri?n, chi ph? nh?n c?ng t?ng l?n, s? kh?ng c?n h?p d?n nh?ng c?ng ty n?y v? h? s? t?m nh?ng n?i kh?c tr?n th? gi?i v?i gi? nh?n c?ng r? h?n. Ng??c l?i v?i nh?ng khu c?ng nghi?p, nh?ng khu c?ng ngh? k? thu?t cao l?i l? n?i h?i t? c?a nh?ng c?ng ty v?i kh? n?ng nghi?n c?u, ph?t tri?n, v? ch? t?o nh?ng s?n ph?m, k? thu?t m?i. Th??ng nh?ng c?ng ty n?y ???c trang b? thi?t b? v? k? thu?t t?n ti?n v?i ngu?n nh?n l?c ph?n l?n l? khoa h?c gia v? k? thu?t gia . Kh?c v?i nh?ng c?ng ty t?p trung trong nh?ng khu c?ng nghi?p; s?n xu?t l? ch?nh y?u; Nh?ng c?ng ty trong nh?ng khu c?ng ngh? k? thu?t cao s? nghi?n c?u, ch? t?o, s?n xu?t, ??ng th?i qu?ng b? v? t? kinh doanh s?n ph?m c?a h?, n?n nh?ng c?ng ty n?y c? kh? n?ng l?m thay ??i th? tr??ng v? ph?t tri?n v??t b?c c?ng nh? ??nh h??ng ???c l?i ?i ri?ng c?a h?. Khoa h?c k? thu?t c? ti?m n?ng v? c?ng to l?n v? c? kh? n?ng ??a n?n kinh t? c?a ??t n??c ph?t tri?n v??t tr?i. Ch?ng h?n nh? Silicon Valley, California, USA, t?ng l? m?t v?ng n?ng nghi?p ?? v??n l?n th?nh m?t trong nh?ng n?n kinh t? h?ng ??u tr?n th? gi?i trong v?ng v?i ch?c n?m v? l? n?i xu?t kh?u s?n ph?m k? thu?t ra th? gi?i ??ng ??u n??c M?. L? v?ng m? h?u h?t c?c c?ng ty t?p trung v?o vi?c ph?t tri?n v? s?n xu?t nh?ng s?n ph?m k? thu?t cao, tr?i d?i t? vi?n ??i h?c Stanford ??n San Jose, CA. Hi?n nay Silicon Valley c? h?n 8.000 qu? ??u t?, v?i ngu?n nh?n l?c h?n 150.000 v? doanh s? b?n ra h?ng n?m ??t h?n 120 t? ?? la m?. Silicon Valley ?? t?o d?ng ???c m?t m?i tr??ng thu?n l?i nh?m th?c ??y doanh nghi?p ph?t tri?n, ngu?n nh?n l?c phong ph?; v?i kh? n?ng s?ng t?o cao; ???c ??o t?o, nu?i d??ng, x? d?ng h?p l? v? hi?u q?a, c?ng th?m ngu?n v?n d?i d?o cung c?p b?i c?c qu? ??u t?, v? m?t th? tr??ng t? do l? nh?ng nguy?n nh?n ??a ??n s? th?nh c?ng v??t b?c c?a v?ng n?y. Ng?y nay tr?o l?u kinh t? th? gi?i d?n d?n chuy?n sang c? c?u kinh t? tri th?c, gi? tr? s?n ph?m kh?ng c?n d?a tr?n v?t li?u c?n b?n c?a s?n ph?m m? l? d?a tr?n gi? tr? s?ng ch? c?a s?n ph?m ??, gi? tr? s?ng ch? c?a s?n ph?m tr? th?nh ?i?m tr?ng y?u trong vi?c c?nh tranh l?u d?i. L? k? nguy?n c?a c?ng ngh? th?ng tin, v?i s? thay ??i nhanh ch?ng c?a c?c ng?nh c?ng ngh?; c?c ng?nh k? thu?t cao nh? l? c?ng ngh? sinh h?c, c?ng ngh? th?ng tin, c?ng ngh? v?t li?u c? b?n m?i, clean energy?d?n d?n tr? n?n c?t l?i trong c?c n?n kinh t?. Trong bu?i giao th?i n?y, vi?c thi?t l?p v? ph?t tri?n nh?ng c?ng ty m?i, h?ng x??ng m?i nh?m t?n d?ng v? ph?t huy kh? n?ng ?u vi?t c?a khoa h?c k? thu?t ( k? thu?t cao, l?i nhu?n cao ) tr? n?n c?p thi?t v? s? tr? th?nh ngu?n ??ng l?c quan tr?ng cho n?n kinh t? qu?c gia. Khu c?ng ngh? k? thu?t cao ???c th?nh l?p v?i m?c ??ch n?y, mang tr?ng tr?ch h? tr?, nu?i d??ng v? ph?t tri?n th? tr??ng k? thu?t cao b?ng c?ch t?o ?i?u ki?n v? ph??ng ti?n ?? h?c ???ng, c?c ??n v? kinh t?, c?c t? ch?c ch?nh ph? c? c? h?i ph?t huy tri?t ?? ti?m n?ng th?ng qua nh?ng ch?nh s?ch khuy?n kh?ch v? t?i tr? t? ch?nh ph?, h? tr? doanh nh?n th?nh l?p v? ph?t tri?n c?ng ty, c?ng nh? l?m c?u n?i cho m?i h? v?ng ch?c gi?a c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u, trung t?m nghi?n c?u, c?c tr??ng ??i h?c v? c?c ng?nh c?ng ngh?. S? m?ng v? nh?ng y?u t? mang ??n th?nh c?ng cho khu c?ng ngh? Nh?m cung c?p c? s? v?t ch?t v? h? tr? m?i m?t cho c?c ng?nh c?ng ngh? k? thu?t cao. T?o c? h?i cho doanh nghi?p huy ??ng v?n t? c?c qu? ??u t?. T?o n?n m?ng v? c? s? v?t ch?t ?? thu h?t nh?n t?i. C? kh? n?ng qu?ng b? nh?ng s?n ph?m v? d?ch v? k? thu?t cao ra th? gi?i c?ng nh? cung c?p v? h? tr? cho s? qu?n l? v? qu?ng b? c?a c?c c?ng ty ???c thi?t l?p trong khu c?ng ngh?. Gi?p c?c c?ng ty thi?t l?p v? b?o v? quy?n s? h?u tr? tu? c?ng nh? s?n ph?m tr? tu?. Ban qu?n l? c?n c? kh? n?ng chuy?n m?n v? qu?n l? cao c?ng nh? c? t?m nh?n chi?n l??c trong vi?c qu?n l? v? ph?t tri?n kinh t? c?a khu c?ng ngh?. C? to?n quy?n quy?t ??nh c?c v?n ?? h? tr?ng v? ??ng vai tr? li?n k?t gi?a c?c c?ng ty, c?c tr??ng ??i h?c, c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u, ch?nh ph? trung ??ng v? ??a ph??ng cho m?i ho?t ??ng c?a khu c?ng ngh?. Ch? tr?ng ??n nh?ng nhu c?u c?p thi?t c?a doanh nghi?p. T?n d?ng t?i ?a ti?m l?c kinh t? h? tr? t? b?n ngo?i, c?ng nh? b?o ??m vi?c ??o t?o cung c?p nh?n l?c ?? ??y m?nh nghi?n c?u khoa h?c k? thu?t v? ph?t tri?n kinh t?. ??ng vai tr? chi?n l??c nh?m ??a khoa h?c k? thu?t v?o vi?c ph?t tri?n kinh t?, ph? bi?n, trao ??i th?ng tin, c?ng b? v? truy?n b? nh?ng th?nh q?a khoa h?c k? thu?t. H? tr? nh?ng s?ng ki?n c?i c?ch, c?i t? t? ph?t minh, th? nghi?m th?ng qua vi?c ph?t tri?n s?n ph?m, ??n h? tr? v? ??u t? t?i ch?nh, th? nghi?m, chuy?n giao c?ng ngh?? T?o ?i?u ki?n trau d?i r?n luy?n v? n?ng cao tr?nh ?? h?c v?n c?a c?c nh?n vi?n l?m vi?c trong c?c doanh nghi?p c? b?n doanh t?i khu c?ng ngh?. Khuy?n kh?ch v? c? v? c?c ??i c?ng ty tham gia v?o vi?c x?y d?ng khu c?ng ngh? v? ?? x??ng nh?ng ch??ng tr?nh h?p t?c l? vi?c l?m quan tr?ng, trong ph?m vi n?o ??, c?c ??i c?ng ty c? th? s? mang nh?ng nghi?n c?u v? ph?t tri?n t?ch c?c ??n cho khu c?ng ngh?, cung c?p nh?ng gi? tr? k? thu?t thi?t th?c c?ng nh? l?m c?u n?i gi?a khu c?ng ngh? v? th? gi?i. S? t?ng h?p c?a nh?ng ti?n ?ch ??c bi?t nh? x?y d?ng nh?ng ???ng th? b?, nh? h?ng, b?u ch?nh, kh?ch s?n, ng?n h?ng, nh? ?, m?i tr??ng v? ?i?u ki?n s?ng t?t, tr??ng h?c t?t, nh?ng khu gi?i tr? v? r?n luy?n th?n th??th??ng bao g?m trong ki?n tr?c c?a khu c?ng ngh?. ???ng nhi?n vi?c thu h?t c?c doanh nghi?p ??t b?n doanh t?i c?c khu c?ng ngh? v?i ki?n tr?c ??p ?? kh?ng th?i ch?a ??, ?? l?i cu?n gi?i tr? th?c, k? thu?t gia, khoa h?c gia v? l?m vi?c, vi?c tr??c ti?n ph?i b?o ??m ??i s?ng c?a h? v? gia ??nh, thu h?t v? khuy?n kh?ch h? v?n d?ng tri?t ?? tr? tu? c?ng nh? ???c h??ng nh?ng quy?n l?i t?i ch?nh. Th??ng h?c ???ng, c?c ??n v? kinh t?, c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u khoa h?c l? n?i qui t? nhi?u t?i n?ng, v? v?y ??a ?i?m c?a khu c?ng ngh? n?n ??t g?n nh?ng trung t?m n?y. Khu c?ng ngh? c?n ???c ki?m so?t v? qu?n l? ch?t ch? ?? b?o t?n gi? tr?. H? th?ng giao th?ng thu?n l?i v? c? s? h? t?ng t?i t?n l? nh?ng ?i?u c?n thi?t. ?? ??m b?o cho s? th?nh c?ng c?a khu c?ng ngh?, ch?nh ph? trung ??ng, ch?nh quy?n ??a ph??ng, c?c ban ng?nh, c?c qu? ??u t?, c?c ph?n vi?n nghi?n c?u, c?c tr??ng ??i h?c, c?n h? tr? m?nh m?, n?ng ??ng v? ?n ??nh. Vai tr? c?a t?ng b? ph?n Ch?nh ph? trung ??ng : L?p k? ho?ch x?y d?ng khu c?ng ngh?, li?n t?c cung c?p ng?n s?ch, y?m tr?, tri?n khai v? ph?t tri?n khu c?ng ngh?, ??ng th?i ch? ??o, ??nh gi? v? quan s?t ho?t ??ng c?a nh?ng ch??ng tr?nh h?p t?c. ??a ra t?m nh?n chi?n l??c c?ng nh? nh?ng ph??ng ph?p qu?n l?, ch??ng tr?nh h?nh ??ng gi?a ch?nh ph? trung ??ng v? c?c t? ch?c h? tr? (c?c ban ng?nh, ch?nh quy?n ??a ph??ng, v? ban qu?n l? khu c?ng ngh?) l? ?i?u c?n thi?t. C?n m? r?ng nh?ng ch??ng tr?nh h? tr? nh?m ??p ?ng nhu c?u chuy?n giao c?ng ngh? t? c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u sang c?c ??n v? kinh t? t? nh?n v? th??ng nghi?p ho? nh?ng th?nh qu? nghi?n c?u. C?ng nh? c?n k?ch ho?t v? t?ng c??ng nghi?n c?u b?ng c?ch gi?m thu? cho c?c doanh nghi?p. Ch?nh quy?n ??a ph??ng : Duy tr? s? ?n ??nh c?a c?c c?ng ty b?ng c?ch cung c?p nh?n l?c c?ng nh? ti?p s?c cho vi?c m? r?ng v? b?nh tr??ng c?a c?c c?ng ty. C?c tr??ng ??i h?c : Cung c?p ch?t x?m, nh?n t?i, h? tr? thi?t b? nghi?n c?u, m? r?ng c?c ch??ng tr?nh h?p t?c nghi?n c?u, ph?t tri?n, qu?n l?, t? v?n, v? c? v?n v? nh?ng ch?nh s?ch v? qu?n l? v? ho?t ??ng cu? khu c?ng ngh? C?c ??i c?ng ty : Tri?n khai v? ph?t tri?n c?c ch??ng tr?nh h?p t?c gi?a c?c c?ng ty nh? v? v?a v?i c?c ??i c?ng ty, cung c?p ng?n s?ch ph? tr? c?c c?ng tr?nh nghi?n c?u khoa h?c t?i c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u, c?c tr??ng ??i h?c. Nh?ng khu?t m?c hi?n th?i Ch?nh ph? trung ??ng ch?a c? ch??ng tr?nh khuy?n kh?ch m?t c?ch th?a ??ng, h?n n?a thi?u ng?n s?ch ??u t? v? thi?u c?c d? ?n, c?ng tr?nh nghi?n c?u khoa h?c v? ?i?u quan tr?ng h?n l? thi?u nh?ng y?u t? c?n thi?t nh? l? nh?n l?c??? ??a nh?ng d? ?n th?nh hi?n th?c. Cho n?n ch?nh ph? n?n t?ng c??ng h?n n?a vi?c ??u t? v?o khoa h?c k? thu?t, c?c d? ?n, c?c c?ng tr?nh nghi?n c?u. M?c ??ch ch?nh c?a khu c?ng ngh? l? t?n d?ng tri?t ?? s?c m?nh c?a khoa h?c k? thu?t ?? t? ?? h?nh th?nh v? t?o ?i?u ki?n thu?n l?i cho nh?ng c?ng ty m?i c?ng nh? gi?p ??y m?nh v? th??ng nghi?p h?a nh?ng k? thu?t m?i. Nh?ng m?c ?? tham gia c?a c?c tr??ng ??i h?c c?c ph?n vi?n nghi?n c?u c?n ? m?c th?p. Trong qu? tr?nh h?nh th?nh v? ph?t tri?n nh?ng doanh nghi?p m?i, kh?u qu?n l? v? c? v?n k? thu?t t? c?c gi?o s? ??i h?c h?u nh? kh?ng c?. Nh?ng ch??ng tr?nh h?p t?c nghi?n c?u v? ?ng d?ng khoa h?c c?n s? s?i c?ng nh? ch?a t?n d?ng tri?t ?? c?c thi?t b? nghi?n c?u khoa h?c. Nh?ng vi?c c?p b?ch Ch?nh s?ch c?a khu c?ng ngh? c?n ???c thi?t l?p v? thi h?nh m?t c?ch th?a ??ng nh?m ??m b?o cam k?t h? tr? c?c doanh nghi?p. Ph??ng th?c n?y s? gi?p ??t m?t n?n m?ng quan tr?ng trong vi?c thi?t l?p nh?ng c?ng ty mang t?m c? qu?c t?. Ph??ng th?c n?y c?ng ?? ???c th? nghi?m qua t?i nhi?u qu?c gia v? ???c coi l? quan tr?ng trong vi?c ph?t tri?n nh?ng c?ng ty k? thu?t m?i. Kinh t? n??c ta v?i ?a s? l? doanh nghi?p nh? v? v?a , n?n kh? n?ng nghi?n c?u v? ti?m l?c kinh t? b? gi?i h?n, vi?c ??u t? v?o k? thu?t m?i, hay c?i ti?n k? thu?t c?n t??ng ??i th?p. H?n n?a nh?ng kh? kh?n v? k? thu?t v? nh?n l?c c?ng th?m qu? t?n k?m trong vi?c nghi?n c?u l?m ch?n b??c c?c doanh nghi?p nh? v? v?a trong vi?c ??u t? ?? ph?t tri?n. V?i nh?ng gi?i h?n n?y, vi?c t?o ra m?t m?i tr??ng thu?n l?i l? c?ng vi?c h?ng ??u c?a ch?nh ph? trung ??ng. Vi?t Nam thi?u n?n t?ng khoa h?c k? thu?t v?ng ch?c, c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u, c?c tr??ng ??i h?c, c?c ??n v? c?i c?ch khoa h?c k? thu?t c?a ch?nh ph? ch?a li?n k?t ch?t ch? v?i nhau. Vi?c xem x?t v? ph?n t?ch n?n khoa h?c k? thu?t n??c nh? v? ??a ra nh?ng ch?nh s?ch c?i c?ch h?p l? l? ?i?u c?p b?ch ?? ??m b?o ph?c v? m?t c?ch hi?u q?a c?ng cu?c ph?t tri?n ??t n??c. Kh?ng nh?ng Vi?t Nam thi?u n?n m?ng khoa h?c k? thu?t v?ng ch?c v? nh?n l?c v? t?i l?c m? c?n ch?a ??nh g?a ??ng m?c vai tr? quan tr?ng m? khoa h?c k? thu?t mang l?i trong c?ng cu?c ??i m?i v? ph?t tri?n ??t n??c c?ng nh? s? r?i r?c v? ph??ng ph?p ?? thi?t l?p m?t n?n t?ng khoa h?c v?ng ch?c v? thi?u nh?ng ch?nh s?ch li?n quan. ?i?u tr??c m?t c?n l?m l? ph?i thi?t l?p nh?ng ng?nh k? thu?t m? c?c ng?nh n?y th??ng ??i h?i c? s? v?t ch?t t?n k?m, c?n x?y d?ng v? nu?i d??ng nh?ng ti?m n?ng khoa h?c k? thu?t ?? ph?t tri?n v? th?ch nghi t?y theo t?nh h?nh kinh t? n??c ta. Nh?m thu h?t khoa h?c k? thu?t t? c?c c?ng ty n??c ngo?i, ch?nh ph? n?n t?o ?i?u ki?n d? d?ng b?ng c?ch ??n gi?n h?a th? t?c ??ng k? h?nh ch?nh, ??a ra nh?ng ch?nh s?ch ?u ??i ??u t?. Chi?u m? nh?n t?i v? x? d?ng t?i n?ng c?a h? m?t c?ch ??ng m?c cho m?c ti?u ph?t tri?n kinh t? ; hi?n nay c? h?ng tr?m ng?n nh?n vi?n, c?n b? khoa h?c k? thu?t ?ang l?m vi?c trong c?c ngh?nh trong c? n??c nh?ng ch?a ???c ph?t huy v? t?n d?ng kh? n?ng c?a h? m?t c?ch ??ng m?c. M?c d? h?ng ng? n?y ???c trang b? ki?n th?c v? k? thu?t c?n c?ch xa so v?i th? gi?i hi?n nay. Ngo?i ra, Vi?t Nam c?n c? h?ng tr?m ng?n ng??i Vi?t ???c ??o t?o, r?n luy?n v? l?m vi?c trong c?c ngh?nh khoa h?c, k? thu?t ti?n ti?n ?ang s?ng t?i h?i ngo?i, v? ??y l? ti?m n?ng kh?ng nh? trong vi?c ch?n h?ng v? ki?n thi?t ??t n??c. ?em nh?ng ti?n b? khoa h?c ? n??c ngo?i v?o trong n??c v? ??ng vi?n nh?ng chuy?n gia k? thu?t ?ang s?ng ? n??c ngo?i tr? v? l?m vi?c t?i qu? nh? s? ?em l?i nhi?u th?nh qu? k? thu?t kh?ng ng?. Khuy?n kh?ch m?t l??ng l?n ng??i Vi?t h?i ngo?i v? n??c l?m vi?c, h? s? ??ng g?p m?t c?ch ??ng k? trong vi?c n?ng cao tr?nh ?? khoa h?c k? thu?t trong n??c. Vi?c c?p gi?p ph?p l?m vi?c cho nh?ng khoa h?c gia, k? thu?t gia v? n??c sinh s?ng v? l?m vi?c n?n ???c d? d?ng c?ng nh? ch? tr?ng ??n nh?ng ch?nh s?ch ?u ??i nh? l?: khuy?n kh?ch kinh t?, qu? h? tr? nghi?n c?u, ???c d? ph?n trong nh?ng th?nh qu? kinh t? mang l?i t? c?ng ty c?a h??l? nh?ng ch?nh s?ch n?n c?. Ngo?i ra ch?nh ph? c?n khuy?n kh?ch sinh vi?n h?c sinh theo h?c c?c ngh?nh khoa h?c, k? thu?t nh?m m?c ??ch ??o t?o v? cung c?p nh?n s? c?ng nh? t?ng c??ng ??u t? v? h? tr? c?c c?ng tr?nh nghi?n c?u t?i c?c tr??ng ??i h?c v? c?c vi?n nghi?n c?u qu?c gia. B?ng c?ch c?i thi?n m?i tr??ng ??u t?, m?i tr??ng s?ng, ?i?u ki?n l?m vi?c v? c?c ch?nh s?ch khuy?n kh?ch, ?u ??i, h? tr? t? ph?a ch?nh ph? nh?m t?o c? h?i cho ng??i Vi?t h?i ngo?i v? trong n??c c?ng chung s?c x?y d?ng v? ki?n thi?t ??t n??c. T?i tin t??ng Vi?t Nam s? c? kh? n?ng ph?t tri?n v??t tr?i v? kinh t?. Ph?m ??c Gi?m ??c ?i?u h?nh C?ng ty Advanced Science Inc - Hoa K? 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Take care Thuy -----Original Message----- From: "ToanDucPham at GMail.com" To: VnBiz Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 23:02:01 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom >[ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070505/2c1f2ae1/attachment.html From duongth307 at yahoo.com Sun May 6 01:59:29 2007 From: duongth307 at yahoo.com (Tran Hong Duong) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 01:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <729527.56473.qm@web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear a. Hoanh & c. Phuong, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she will get well really soon! With all the best for your family, THD On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: My Schedule To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Dear CACC, My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. 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She is still in the > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > convenience this may generate. > > Have a good day, > > Hoanh > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > Washington DC > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Mobile: 84 0936.19.11.19 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070506/ff3bdd4f/attachment.html From daoxuanlam at gmail.com Sun May 6 10:16:04 2007 From: daoxuanlam at gmail.com (Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager (G-mail)) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 00:16:04 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, We are very sorry to hear that your mother has been hit by a stroke and still has been hospitalised. We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and condition and shortly be recovered. Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. Let' s keep the fingers crossed. Bye for now. Dao Xuan Lam ----- Original Message ----- From: Mercedes Benz To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear a. Hoanh, Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please believe that! My best regards, Nam. On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear Anh Hoanh, Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. Em Toan. On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > Dear CACC, > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. > Have a good day, > Hoanh > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -- Mobile: 84 0936.19.11.19 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/90dceda6/attachment.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Sun May 6 12:56:59 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 15:56:59 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> Message-ID: Dear CACC, Thank you for your generous email about my mom. Your messages give me warmth and courage. As you can imagine, dealing with stroke is not easy. According to the doctors, my mom got a "massive stroke." She is a fighter and she is fighting her biggest battle. I cannot do much other than praying and be by her side to give her some encouragement. She is not very conscious but I believe that she can feel my presence. This is the woman who forms my characters. She is a very average woman. She did not even finish fifth grade (She was not allowed to go school because she was a girl and "girls did not need school," but she learned from school from outside the window). She was a country girl and was urbanized from moving around the country with a military husband. My dad, by the time he retired, was a lieutenant. It meant, he couldn't support the family at all. My mom very much single-handedly raised nine children. She just did whatever she could to make money to feed us. She did not understand anything sophisticated in life, like politics, or elite music (like Trinh Cong Son or Le Uyen Phuong), or gender equality. She just went out trying whatever she could to raise us kids during the war time. But from her, I have learned to respect women, to respect the country folks, to respect the folks with no formal education but active in life, to understand the wisdom of fighting your way through life whatever difficulties you face. The biggest thing I have learned from my mom is that you can be so average but still be great. Anyway, now that she is in her fiercest battle, I can't do much other than praying and standing beside her and watch her fight. From her body movements to the facial expressions, I can see that she is fighting with all her might. And that moves me greatly. I have always admired her fighting spirit. I said quietly, "After all, you are my mom." Thank you, brothers and sisters, for your support and prayers. May God bless us all. I will keep you informed. Have a great day! Hoanh ___________ On 5/6/07, Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager (G-mail) wrote: > > Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, > > We are very sorry to hear that your mother has been hit by a stroke and > still has been hospitalised. > > We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and > condition and shortly be recovered. > > Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. > > Let' s keep the fingers crossed. > > Bye for now. > > Dao Xuan Lam > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mercedes Benz > *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net > *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > ------------------------------ > > Dear a. Hoanh, > > Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please > believe that! > > My best regards, > > Nam. > > On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com wrote: > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anh Hoanh, > > Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. > > Em Toan. > > > > > > > > > > On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > > > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > > > Subject: My Schedule > > > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > > Dear CACC, > > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the > > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > > convenience this may generate. > > > Have a good day, > > > Hoanh > > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > > Washington DC > > > -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070506/cd7cb00d/attachment.html From cstevenson2000 at gmail.com Sun May 6 13:21:35 2007 From: cstevenson2000 at gmail.com (Craig Stevenson) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:21:35 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> Message-ID: Anh Hoanh and family: I hope that God mercifully works his will and all is well for your Mom and family. >From the description of your mother, she sounds more extraordinary than average. As we say in English, she is a "salt of the earth". You seem privileged to have such a strong and meaningful influence on your life which no doubt will extend down through the generations. Equally, I am sure that she is proud of who you are. From the little I understand of you from this board she must have done a wonderful job in raising you. I wish you the love, strength and peace you deserve, and she deserves, at this and all future moments in time. God bless you, your family, and most importantly, your mother. Warmest regards, Craig On 5/6/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear CACC, > > Thank you for your generous email about my mom. Your messages give me > warmth and courage. As you can imagine, dealing with stroke is not > easy. According to the doctors, my mom got a "massive stroke." She is a > fighter and she is fighting her biggest battle. I cannot do much other than > praying and be by her side to give her some encouragement. She is not very > conscious but I believe that she can feel my presence. > > This is the woman who forms my characters. She is a very average woman. > She did not even finish fifth grade (She was not allowed to go school > because she was a girl and "girls did not need school," but she learned from > school from outside the window). She was a country girl and was urbanized > from moving around the country with a military husband. My dad, by the time > he retired, was a lieutenant. It meant, he couldn't support the family at > all. My mom very much single-handedly raised nine children. She just did > whatever she could to make money to feed us. She did not understand > anything sophisticated in life, like politics, or elite music (like Trinh > Cong Son or Le Uyen Phuong), or gender equality. She just went out trying > whatever she could to raise us kids during the war time. > > But from her, I have learned to respect women, to respect the country > folks, to respect the folks with no formal education but active in life, to > understand the wisdom of fighting your way through life whatever > difficulties you face. The biggest thing I have learned from my mom is that > you can be so average but still be great. > > Anyway, now that she is in her fiercest battle, I can't do much other than > praying and standing beside her and watch her fight. From her body > movements to the facial expressions, I can see that she is fighting with all > her might. And that moves me greatly. I have always admired her fighting > spirit. I said quietly, "After all, you are my mom." > > Thank you, brothers and sisters, for your support and prayers. May God > bless us all. I will keep you informed. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > ___________ > > On 5/6/07, Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager (G-mail) > wrote: > > > > Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, > > > > We are very sorry to hear that your mother has been hit by a stroke and > > still has been hospitalised. > > > > We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and > > condition and shortly be recovered. > > > > Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. > > > > Let' s keep the fingers crossed. > > > > Bye for now. > > > > Dao Xuan Lam > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mercedes Benz > > *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Dear a. Hoanh, > > > > Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please > > believe that! > > > > My best regards, > > > > Nam. > > > > On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com < toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anh Hoanh, > > > Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. > > > Em Toan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > > > > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > > > > Subject: My Schedule > > > > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > > > Dear CACC, > > > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the > > > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > > > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > > > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > > > convenience this may generate. > > > > Have a good day, > > > > Hoanh > > > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > > > Washington DC > > > > > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070506/df427691/attachment.html From thuynguyen_qtkd at yahoo.com Sun May 6 13:30:31 2007 From: thuynguyen_qtkd at yahoo.com (Nguyen Thu Thuy) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <462772.24724.qm@web51504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dear Anh Hoanh, Please convey my best wishes to your Mom and your family as a whole. I am also sharing all the praying with our sisters and brothers here. I know your Mom is great, as great as all the Great Vietnamese Mothers, and she will be winning this battle. Em Thuy --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070506/9c4501f0/attachment.html From tranbathien at gmail.com Sun May 6 18:36:51 2007 From: tranbathien at gmail.com (Tran Ba Thien) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:36:51 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com><02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> Message-ID: <006501c79048$33a9a770$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Dear brother Hoanh, Her story is a big lesson for all. We pray for her recovery, too. God bless your mum and your family Tran Ba Thien tranbathien at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear CACC, Thank you for your generous email about my mom. Your messages give me warmth and courage. As you can imagine, dealing with stroke is not easy. According to the doctors, my mom got a "massive stroke." She is a fighter and she is fighting her biggest battle. I cannot do much other than praying and be by her side to give her some encouragement. She is not very conscious but I believe that she can feel my presence. This is the woman who forms my characters. She is a very average woman. She did not even finish fifth grade (She was not allowed to go school because she was a girl and "girls did not need school," but she learned from school from outside the window). She was a country girl and was urbanized from moving around the country with a military husband. My dad, by the time he retired, was a lieutenant. It meant, he couldn't support the family at all. My mom very much single-handedly raised nine children. She just did whatever she could to make money to feed us. She did not understand anything sophisticated in life, like politics, or elite music (like Trinh Cong Son or Le Uyen Phuong), or gender equality. She just went out trying whatever she could to raise us kids during the war time. But from her, I have learned to respect women, to respect the country folks, to respect the folks with no formal education but active in life, to understand the wisdom of fighting your way through life whatever difficulties you face. The biggest thing I have learned from my mom is that you can be so average but still be great. Anyway, now that she is in her fiercest battle, I can't do much other than praying and standing beside her and watch her fight. From her body movements to the facial expressions, I can see that she is fighting with all her might. And that moves me greatly. I have always admired her fighting spirit. I said quietly, "After all, you are my mom." Thank you, brothers and sisters, for your support and prayers. May God bless us all. I will keep you informed. Have a great day! Hoanh ___________ On 5/6/07, Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager (G-mail) wrote: Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, We are very sorry to hear that your mother has been hit by a stroke and still has been hospitalised. We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and condition and shortly be recovered. Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. Let' s keep the fingers crossed. Bye for now. Dao Xuan Lam ----- Original Message ----- From: Mercedes Benz To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom [ Vietnam Business Forum ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear a. Hoanh, Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please believe that! My best regards, Nam. On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com < toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear Anh Hoanh, Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. Em Toan. On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > Dear CACC, > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. > Have a good day, > Hoanh > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/e8829c46/attachment.html From Nguyen-Thi-Huong.Thu at dfat.gov.au Sun May 6 18:41:58 2007 From: Nguyen-Thi-Huong.Thu at dfat.gov.au (Nguyen-Thi-Huong.Thu at dfat.gov.au) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:41:58 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] My Schedule [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear A. Hoang and C. Phuong, I wish your mom get recover soon. Best regards, Thu Nguyen "Tran Dinh Hoanh" Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 04/05/2007 07:46 PM Please respond to vnbiz at vietlinks.net To vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc Subject [Vnbiz] My Schedule Topic TRIM File Ref [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: My Schedule To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Dear CACC, My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in convenience this may generate. Have a good day, Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/37c1383f/attachment.html From tealetran at gmail.com Sun May 6 19:20:10 2007 From: tealetran at gmail.com (Tea (Tuy-Phuong) LeTran) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 22:20:10 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> Message-ID: <18dd8d250705061920j7643c6ft77565b6c9bb49e0b@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Thank you so much for your very thoughtful well wishes for us and our beloved mother. I also love her very much and feel so helpless at the moment. All I am able to do at this moment is to be there whenever I could, holding her hand and talking to her constantly hoping, praying she can hear me somehow and feel happy and come back quickly to all of us. She loves me dearly and always very happy whenever she receives my calls (she told anh Hoanh and me every time I called her). I miss her terribilly already. Please keep praying for our family and for our mother's speedy recovery. Please pray for our father's well being as well. He is very fragile and without our mother I truly do not know how he is going to cope. Again, thank you so much for your caring wishes. Your encouraging words give us much hope and comfort. May you all have a day with much blessing. Please be well and be safe everyone! tp. On 5/6/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC, > > Thank you for your generous email about my mom. Your messages give me > warmth and courage. As you can imagine, dealing with stroke is not > easy. According to the doctors, my mom got a "massive stroke." She is a > fighter and she is fighting her biggest battle. I cannot do much other than > praying and be by her side to give her some encouragement. She is not very > conscious but I believe that she can feel my presence. > > This is the woman who forms my characters. She is a very average woman. > She did not even finish fifth grade (She was not allowed to go school > because she was a girl and "girls did not need school," but she learned from > school from outside the window). She was a country girl and was urbanized > from moving around the country with a military husband. My dad, by the time > he retired, was a lieutenant. It meant, he couldn't support the family at > all. My mom very much single-handedly raised nine children. She just did > whatever she could to make money to feed us. She did not understand > anything sophisticated in life, like politics, or elite music (like Trinh > Cong Son or Le Uyen Phuong), or gender equality. She just went out trying > whatever she could to raise us kids during the war time. > > But from her, I have learned to respect women, to respect the country > folks, to respect the folks with no formal education but active in life, to > understand the wisdom of fighting your way through life whatever > difficulties you face. The biggest thing I have learned from my mom is that > you can be so average but still be great. > > Anyway, now that she is in her fiercest battle, I can't do much other than > praying and standing beside her and watch her fight. From her body > movements to the facial expressions, I can see that she is fighting with all > her might. And that moves me greatly. I have always admired her fighting > spirit. I said quietly, "After all, you are my mom." > > Thank you, brothers and sisters, for your support and prayers. May God > bless us all. I will keep you informed. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > ___________ > > On 5/6/07, Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager (G-mail) > wrote: > > > > Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, > > > > We are very sorry to hear that your mother has been hit by a stroke and > > still has been hospitalised. > > > > We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and > > condition and shortly be recovered. > > > > Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. > > > > Let' s keep the fingers crossed. > > > > Bye for now. > > > > Dao Xuan Lam > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Mercedes Benz > > *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Dear a. Hoanh, > > > > Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please > > believe that! > > > > My best regards, > > > > Nam. > > > > On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com < toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anh Hoanh, > > > Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. > > > Em Toan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > > > > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > > > > Subject: My Schedule > > > > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > > > Dear CACC, > > > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the > > > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > > > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > > > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > > > convenience this may generate. > > > > Have a good day, > > > > Hoanh > > > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > > > Washington DC > > > > > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Tea (Tuy-Phuong) LeTran Form is not different from Void, Void is not different from Form Form is Void, Void is Form (The Great-Wisdom-Beyond-Wisdom Heart Sutra) Sa('c ba^'t di. Kho^ng, Kho^ng ba^'t di. Sa('c Sa('c tu+'c thi. Kho^ng, Kho^ng tu+'c thi. Sa('c ( Ba't Nha~ Ta^m Kinh ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070506/30db344c/attachment-0001.html From a.ledieu at gmail.com Sun May 6 19:51:17 2007 From: a.ledieu at gmail.com (LeDieu Anh) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:51:17 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: <18dd8d250705061920j7643c6ft77565b6c9bb49e0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> <18dd8d250705061920j7643c6ft77565b6c9bb49e0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <741a234c0705061951g1b104849x85f5d01b5f6992d3@mail.gmail.com> Dear chi Phuong and anh Hoanh, I am so sorry to hear about that. My mother also suffered from stroke not once and the last one happened when I was not home with her ... Wish things will get much better with your mom with you both beside her. My deepest sharings, Anh On 5/7/07, Tea (Tuy-Phuong) LeTran wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear all, > > Thank you so much for your very thoughtful well wishes for us and our > beloved mother. I also love her very much and feel so helpless at the > moment. All I am able to do at this moment is to be there whenever I could, > holding her hand and talking to her constantly hoping, praying she can hear > me somehow and feel happy and come back quickly to all of us. She loves me > dearly and always very happy whenever she receives my calls (she told anh > Hoanh and me every time I called her). I miss her terribilly already. > Please keep praying for our family and for our mother's speedy > recovery. Please pray for our father's well being as well. He is > very fragile and without our mother I truly do not know how he is going > to cope. > > Again, thank you so much for your caring wishes. Your encouraging words > give us much hope and comfort. May you all have a day with much blessing. > > Please be well and be safe everyone! > > tp. > > On 5/6/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > > > Dear CACC, > > > > Thank you for your generous email about my mom. Your messages give me > > warmth and courage. As you can imagine, dealing with stroke is not > > easy. According to the doctors, my mom got a "massive stroke." She is a > > fighter and she is fighting her biggest battle. I cannot do much other than > > praying and be by her side to give her some encouragement. She is not very > > conscious but I believe that she can feel my presence. > > > > This is the woman who forms my characters. She is a very > > average woman. She did not even finish fifth grade (She was not allowed to > > go school because she was a girl and "girls did not need school," but she > > learned from school from outside the window). She was a country girl and > > was urbanized from moving around the country with a military husband. My > > dad, by the time he retired, was a lieutenant. It meant, he couldn't > > support the family at all. My mom very much single-handedly raised nine > > children. She just did whatever she could to make money to feed us. She > > did not understand anything sophisticated in life, like politics, or elite > > music (like Trinh Cong Son or Le Uyen Phuong), or gender equality. She just > > went out trying whatever she could to raise us kids during the war time. > > > > But from her, I have learned to respect women, to respect the country > > folks, to respect the folks with no formal education but active in life, to > > understand the wisdom of fighting your way through life whatever > > difficulties you face. The biggest thing I have learned from my mom is that > > you can be so average but still be great. > > > > Anyway, now that she is in her fiercest battle, I can't do much other > > than praying and standing beside her and watch her fight. From her body > > movements to the facial expressions, I can see that she is fighting with all > > her might. And that moves me greatly. I have always admired her fighting > > spirit. I said quietly, "After all, you are my mom." > > > > Thank you, brothers and sisters, for your support and prayers. May God > > bless us all. I will keep you informed. > > > > Have a great day! > > > > Hoanh > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/cf915965/attachment.html From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 7 04:22:20 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:22:20 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Japanese investors get Vietnam fever Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41203@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Japanese investors get Vietnam fever By Nguyen Nhat Lam and Eriko Amaha Sun May 6, 10:17 PM ET HANOI/TOKYO (Reuters) - Tadayoshi Okimoto, an auto company executive from southern Japan, rubs shoulders with dozens of Vietnamese at a brokerage in Ho Chi Minh City, excited to get a piece of Vietnam's fledgling stock market. Okimoto is on a tour to Vietnam's budding financial center organized by a Japanese travel agency that brings Japanese retail investors to Vietnam to open share trading accounts. The tour is so popular with Japanese wanting to take advantage of a burgeoning stock market that it runs almost every working day. "In many countries, the stock market is mature and goes up and down a lot. But in Vietnam, the stock is very new so the chart is going up all the time. In two or three years' time, we will receive a lot of money from our investment," Okimoto, 41, said. Driven by low interest rates at home, Japanese investors are eyeing Vietnam, a communist-ruled country experiencing fast economic growth after starting gradual economic reforms in 1986, as an alternative to China and India. The crowd at BIDV Securities Company (BSC) is mixed: there are men and women, the well-dressed and the shabby. The place is so full people are sitting on the floor, all eyes on the three massive screens displaying stock information. To help people like Okimoto, forms are printed in Japanese and clerks speak fluent Japanese, explaining the rules of the stock market. It even operates a Japanese Web site for investors from Japan, with a $180 annual fee. Okimoto says he spent 60,000 yen ($500) for his trip, including airfare and accommodation for two nights. "It's very cheap compared to the returns that could be offered," he said. In two months time, when officials in Hanoi have processed the application, he will receive security passcodes allowing him to start investing. In addition to Sketch Travel, the group that organized Okimoto's tour, HIS Co. Ltd. and other travel agencies are now arranging similar tours. At the Ho Chi Minh branch of BSC, foreign investors held 618 accounts at the end of March, about 5 percent of the total. MONEY TO BE MADE For those who don't make the trip, Vietnam funds are available in Japan, and have been snapped up to the tune of 80 billion yen, more than for funds investing in Brazil. "Vietnam's economic situation is similar to China, where a communist country opens up its financial markets and tries to beef up the capital markets by joining the WTO," said Kazuo Murakami, a spokesman for Japan's Aizawa Securities Co. Ltd., which sells a Vietnam fund. "It's natural for Japanese investors to apply sharp rises in Chinese stocks to Vietnamese shares." Including direct investments through private accounts and money invested in Vietnam funds, Japanese investors are estimated to represent about 5 percent of the Vietnam's 2.5 trillion yen stock markets. Foreign investors account for 20 to 30 percent. CAVEAT EMPTOR The flood of foreign money has helped Vietnam's main share index jump nearly 145 percent last year and 23 percent this year so far. Nearly 200 companies are listed on Vietnam's two exchanges, and the government is scheduled to fully or partially privatize 550 businesses this year. Among those going private are Vietindebank (BIDV), the third-largest state-run bank in terms of assets, Vinaphone, the nation's largest mobile phone service provider, and Bao Viet, Vietnam's largest insurance firm. But, not everything is rosy for investors. The market is still small and the market infrastructure is in its infancy, especially the unregulated over-the-counter market, where investors may find the best bargains. "The shares on the unregulated OTC are the ones we really want ... the problem is that there will be stocks whose accounting and financial information will not be transparent and will not meet Japanese standards," said Masaki Takahashi, senior strategist at the Asia information division of Tokyo-based Okasan Securities Co. Ltd., a unit of Okasan Holdings Inc. Things may change, however, as the Vietnam government has tried to rein in the unregulated market, asking companies that have sold shares on the grey market to register with regulators. "(OTC shares) will be accessible for foreigners" after these steps, said Paul Nguyen, a director of Ho Chi Minh City-based Vinchi Capital Management which is trying to set up a Vietnam fund there. "There is no regulation in the OTC market at all ... most people change shares by going through the Internet or going through unofficial brokers." Capital Partners Securities Co. Ltd., the first Japanese broker to sell a Vietnam fund, said its clients are looking for emerging-market companies for long-term investments for retirement. "We are thinking of Kazakhstan next as we have received a lot of inquires," said Katsuyuki Ueoka, deputy vice president, Capital Partners' product division. (additional reporting by Hanoi Newsroom and Michiko Iwasaki in Tokyo) From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 7 04:24:01 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:24:01 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Vietnam central bank sees inflation 'problem' as economy grows Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41204@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Vietnam central bank sees inflation 'problem' as economy grows Vietnam is facing "problems" keeping inflation from quickening as the economy expands and investment in the country increases, a central bank official said. Consumer prices rose 7.2 percent in April from the year earlier, the fastest pace in eight months, spurred by higher costs for housing and construction materials. The State Bank of Vietnam expects inflation to be below the rate of growth in the economy, which the government forecasts to be 8.5 percent, said Pham Bao Lam, a deputy director general at the central bank. "High economic growth means high inflation," Lam told a seminar on the sidelines of the Asian Development Bank annual meeting in Kyoto. "We try to control the balance by pursuing very tight monetary policy in order to avoid inflation from going out of control." Vietnam's economic growth has accelerated in each of the past three years. Pledges of foreign investment, which increased 49 percent to $10.2 billion last year, are gaining after the Southeast Asian nation became a member of the World Trade Organization in January. Intel Corp. of Santa Clara, California, the world's biggest maker of computer chips, plans to spend $1 billion to build a plant in Vietnam. Osaka-based Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., the world's biggest consumer electronics maker, opened two factories in the nation in April. Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung this year loosened currency controls and announced plans to increase sales of state-owned assets. The new currency market gives investors more opportunities to bet on an economy that expanded at a 7.7 percent annual rate in the first quarter and may grow 8.3 percent this year, according to the Asian Development Bank. The dong climbed 0.7 percent between Nov. 22 and Feb. 21, and erased gains since as regulators curbed borrowing for stock market investment. "The strengthening of the dong is a big challenge because of the inflow of foreign investment," Pham said in an interview at the sidelines of the meeting. "That is similar to other countries in the region. We have to accommodate to the situation." (Source: Bloomberg) From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 7 04:31:05 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:31:05 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Peeking under the surface of globalization Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41205@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Peeking under the surface of globalization Intel's experience in Vietnam shows the web of connections behind the global economy. By Daniel Altman Published: May 4, 2007 Every day, newspapers and television broadcasts are full of numbers that supposedly tell the public how the global economy is doing. Like the markings on a thousand thermometers, the numbers go up and down: stock market indexes, payroll data, interest rates, quarterly earnings, trade deficits, you name it. The problem is, none of these numbers tells you how the global economy actually works. But what if you could go behind the scenes - freeze the global economy for a sliver of time, just long enough to get a really good look at it? Then you'd have a pretty good idea of what was connected to what and who relied on whom. You'd see how the global economy is like an enormous machine crammed with six billion interlocking cogs and wheels - one for every person inside. Unfreeze the action, and the cogs and wheels whirl away as the world's workers spring back into action. Not everyone's wheel is the same size, but everyone's wheel matters. To use another metaphor: Think of the proverbial butterfly that beats its wings in the air over Australia and helps to cause a hurricane thousands of miles away in the Gulf of Mexico. Like the earth's own atmosphere, the economy is a closed system - everything's connected, and every individual's actions instantly affect everyone else. Sometimes this fact is lost in the countless hours of commentary on television and radio, to say nothing of the endless articles and books, about a topic vaguely called globalization. Yet much of the resulting debate amounts to "globalization good" or "globalization bad." And that kind of name-calling doesn't do much to help you cope with the changing world. The only empirically obvious truth is that the forces often labeled "globalization" - the integration of markets, the spread of ideas, the formalization of the world trading system, and whatever else you care to place under the umbrella - are here to stay. Wouldn't it be better - and more interesting - to take a broad sampling of facts and judge for yourself? A nighttime drive along Nguyen Van Troi Street - Ho Chi Minh City's version of the Las Vegas strip - is a study in outrageous contrasts. The graceful colonial villas that house official offices behind forbidding metal fences have been swamped by trendy caf?s, bars, restaurants, and shops open until the wee hours. The patriotic banners hanging nearby, all in gold letters on a red background, are barely legible in the blinding light of thousands of tubes of neon. Is this really a Communist country? Not on your life. The entrepreneurial tradition is just too deeply rooted. Dozens of private businesses dot the sidewalks. New storefronts selling everything from silk bathrobes to spa treatments are popping up all over Ho Chi Minh City. Likewise, the old Honda Dream mopeds are quickly giving way to racy new Yamaha scooters. Entire families still pile on, just like they used to, but they're not wearing plain white shirts and dark trousers anymore - now it's tight jeans, designer tops, and plenty of makeup. Vietnam didn't get this way all by itself. Foreign companies have had a hand in the country's growing prosperity. Naturally, they didn't get involved out of charity. They're trying to find cheaper places to make their products, or new people who might buy them. It's a mission that has often led to controversy, with accusations raging from substandard treatment of workers to wrecked indigenous cultures. But arguments against companies reaching around the world to produce or sell are being washed away, if not always answered, by the twin tides of trade and investment. The more relevant question today is whether these multinational relationships can be managed in a way that benefits both guests and hosts. Intel, the microchip maker, would respond with an emphatic yes. The company has been operating in Vietnam since 1997, the year when several countries in the region experienced financial crises that deterred many other businesses from investing. In 2000, the United States opened trade relations with Vietnam for the first time since the two countries stopped fighting. And it was then that Intel sent Than Trong Phuc home. Phuc left Ho Chi Minh City on the last night it was called Saigon, in one of the last helicopters to take off from the roof of the American Embassy. Soon afterward, he was adjusting to life as a newly minted California teenager. Today, three decades after he fled Vietnam, he is the living embodiment of Intel's shrewd strategy for expansion into developing countries It's a sweltering summer day outside, but Phuc and Le Quoc Anh, a Vietnamese-American born in Virginia, are sitting at a conference table in the cool comfort of Intel's air-conditioned offices. Phuc, a trim man with a gray-flecked mustache who runs the operation, is flipping through a slide presentation on his laptop while Anh, his jovial public relations manager, takes notes. As each slide pops up on the projection screen, Phuc's steady gaze checks with his audience to make sure his explanation has sunk in. One slide elicits a special mention, though. "This is the Communist Party of Vietnam Web site," Phuc says brightly as the projector shows an image taken from a Web browser. "We made the headline!" And indeed, there on the screen is Intel's name, in an announcement of the deal that is supposed to bring Vietnam to the cutting edge of the digital era. "I thought the day would never come," Anh adds. Phuc and Anh agree that if they brought this slide to their immigrant friends in the United States, they would not believe it. But cooperation with the government is the name of Intel's game in Vietnam. In a way, it has to be. Foreign companies' access to Vietnam is still tightly controlled by the government, and the government has a profound involvement in the lives of Vietnamese. "The government's role in Vietnamese society is pervasive," Phuc says. "Their influence and their mind share is everywhere." Rather than seeing this unusual situation as a handicap, however, Intel has tried to exploit it. >From the moment Phuc arrived in Ho Chi Minh City, he set about cultivating government officials. His initial step was to understand their goals. The first, he says, is to increase the use of personal computers and the Internet. The second is to make Vietnam an exporter of high-tech items, and preferably those that don't require a lot of equipment to produce. "In manufacturing on the hardware side, the capital cost is big," Phuc explains, adding that Taiwan already has the upper hand in that market. Instead, he says, "the government wants Vietnam to be an exporter of information technology. All you need is a brain." With a million graduates entering the work force every year, the need for these jobs couldn't be plainer. Intel's goal is clear, too, and Phuc makes no bones about it: sell more chips. But rather than simply hanging out a shingle and waiting for customers to arrive, Phuc spends most of his time actively working to develop the market. That means coming up with an endless stream of ideas for putting people together with computers, since more demand for computers implies more chips. And so it came to pass that Intel, with just a handful of people working out of an office in Ho Chi Minh City, became the driving force for Vietnam's entire computer industry. Phuc divided the market into three segments, separated by income. The high end presented no challenges; they'd buy whatever computers they wanted. The low end probably couldn't afford to buy any computers, so the question was how to give them access to software and the Internet in a community setting. That's when Phuc got to know Vu Duc Dam. Vu was vice chairman to the people's committee in Bac Ninh, an inland farming province in the north. He had studied abroad and was interested in promoting Vietnam's digital future. But what would Bac Ninh's poor farmers do with computers? The answer, in part a product of Intel's constant brainstorming, is now on show at 200 community centers across Bac Ninh. Each one houses five personal computers and one printer. A local Web site created by the Agriculture Ministry offers daily crop prices. In addition, online maps clearly show the boundaries of land allotments, previously a frequent topic of disagreements. The system can also be used to set up distribution routes. For farmers, it's a valuable resource. For Intel, it's 1,000 chips sold. Though farmers sharing computers is all well and good, Intel's prime target was always the middle segment of the population, a group Phuc now estimates at about three million households with income from $2,000 to $6,000 annually. How could Intel encourage these people to stretch their budgets and become new customers? Working with the government's Communist youth group, Intel developed a program under the brand Thanh Giong, the name of a legendary Vietnamese hero who magically overcame disability to beat back the enemy of his people. To beat back the enemy of illiteracy (and thus unemployment), the program would sell computers costing $265, $320 and $420. Intel acted as matchmaker between suppliers in Taiwan and Vietnamese assemblers, whom it also helped with testing, debugging and quality control. So far, the Thanh Giong systems have been selling at a rate of 3,000 a month. "Intel doesn't do this for free," Phuc says. "We don't even take a loss." though the program began in just a few provinces, now all 64 have followed the Thanh Giong lead. "And of course," Phuc adds, "we helped everyone." Phuc's approach, which he credits in part to the ideas of Intel's chairman, Craig Bennett, has become a model for Intel divisions throughout Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe. The government is planning another Thanh Giong program to reach small businesses, which it hopes will triple in number in the next five years. The "digital Vietnam" agreement that Intel's chief executive, Paul Otellini, signed June 15 includes a stunning plan for the future: computer labs in all schools, e-government programs in all provinces, personal computers in all 900 hospitals and 260 universities, rural Internet rollouts, and even wireless Internet covering entire cities. Intel has succeeded in Vietnam because its goal and the government's are roughly the same: more Vietnamese using more computers. Essentially, Intel gave the government a menu of options - all of which were good for Intel - and followed up on the ones the government liked. The company has taken advantage of cheap marketing and played up to local traditions. At worst, it can be accused of encouraging people to spend their money on computers instead of other things, perhaps including necessities. The situation could hardly be better. Intel hasn't always been able to avoid controversy, however. Like other companies, it has been blamed for being a badly behaved guest. For instance, by building a large plant in Kiryat Gat, an Israeli town that belonged to Palestinians before 1948, Intel became the target of boycotts from pro-Palestinian groups. They accused the company of helping Israel to limit Palestinian families' ability to regain their ancestral homes. There is no shortage of other stories, especially involving American businesses. Things are changing, though. Ironically, the same corporations that activists used to castigate for using sweatshops in poor countries may now be the entities most responsible for spreading progressive labor practices. For example, Gap Inc., which was once criticized for using exploitative clothing suppliers on three continents, has more recently been praised for coming clean about its violations of labor laws, pledging to reverse them, and even solving a dispute between workers and local bosses in Cambodia. The company only changed its ways after years of sustained pressure from activists and consumers. But the case proved that under their watchful eye, multinational companies can bring progress as well as problems. When the activists' voices and consumers' pocketbooks make visible examples out of offenders, it's much less likely that others will test the limits of acceptable behavior. >From "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" by Daniel Altman, published this month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Copyright ? 2007 by Daniel Altman. All rights reserved. From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 7 04:32:30 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:32:30 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Key Vietnam economic data - May 7 Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41206@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Monday May 7, 3:44 PM Key Vietnam economic data - May 7 May 7 (Reuters) - The following table updated Vietnam's key economic indicators with the World Bank's East Asia Update report and government figures released at the end of April. CENTRAL BANK DLR/DONG RATE May 7 April 9 May 9, 2006 16,132 16,108 15,957 THE VIETNAM INDEX 983.62 1,041.36 546.40 ADVERTISEMENT INTEREST RATE FOR LENDING VIETNAMESE DONG Base rate Previous -- Short-term 8.25 pct/year (fm 01/12/05) 7.80 -- Medium & long-term 8.25 pct/year (fm 01/12/05) 7.80 -- Discount rate 4.5 pct/year (fm 01/12/05) 4.00 (used by the central bank to buy back short-term debt papers) -- Re-discount rate 6.5 pct/year (from 01/12/05) 6.00 (used by the central bank in lending to commercial banks) DOLLAR: Banks are free to fix rates. CONSUMER PRICE INDEX (INFLATION) April 07 March 07 April 06 Change on year earlier +7.16 +6.80 +7.3 Change on previous month +0.49 -0.22 +0.2 (Source: General Statistics Office (GSO)) TRADE ACCOUNT (in $) April 07 April 06 Jan-April 07 Jan-April 06 #2007 Exports 3.95 bln 2.97 bln 14.52 bln 11.90 bln 47.54 bln Imports 4.50 bln 3.58 bln 16.78 bln 12.63 bln 52.20 bln Balance -550 mln -610 mln -2.26 bln -730 mln -4.66 bln Note: figures are rounded up # Trade Ministry projections INDUSTRIAL OUTPUT (percent change on a year earlier) April 07 April 06 Jan-April 07 Jan-April 06 #2007 Output +17.3 +17.7 +16.7 +15.6 +17.1 Of which: State +4.2 +12.1 +7.4 +8.3 +9.0 Non-state +24.2 +20.1 +20.6 +20.2 +24.1 Foreign-invested +20.1 +20.8 +19.4 +18.0 +18.5 (#: Industry Ministry projections) ECONOMIC FORECASTS/DATA (in percentage, except trade deficit and reserves) *Updated 2007 2006 2005 GDP GROWTH on a year earlier -- National Assembly +8.2-8.5 +8.17 +8.43 -- GSO +8.17 +8.4 -- ADB +8.3 +8.0 +8.4 -- IMF +7.6 +7.8 +8.4 -- World Bank *+8.0 *+8.2 *+8.5 *(The government estimated Q1 GDP growth at 7.7 percent) CPI RISE -- National Assembly #8.1 +6.6 +8.4 -- GSO +6.6 +8.4 -- Finance Ministry +7.0-7.5 -- Trade Ministry +6.5-6.8 -- ADB +6.8 +7.0 +6.0 Core inflation +2.5 -- IMF +7.1 +7.6 +8.3 -- World Bank *+7.0 *+6.6 +8.4 (#: below the GDP growth rate) (The 2006 CPI rise released by GSO and IMF are the average rates against 2005) (ADB: Annual average inflation, not the year end rate) MONEY AND CREDIT (by IMF) -- Broad money +25.0 +28.9 +29.7 -- Credit growth +23.6 +22.6 +31.7 EXPORT GROWTH on a year earlier -- National Assembly +17.4 +22.8 +22.4 -- GSO +22.1 +21.6 -- ADB +18.0 +23.0 +20.0 -- IMF +15.8 +20.1 +22.5 -- World Bank *+20.0 *+22.8 *+22.5 -- Trade Ministry +20-22.0 +22.0 +14.0 IMPORT GROWTH on a year earlier -- National Assembly +15.5 +21.4 -- GSO +20.1 +15.4 -- IMF +17.8 +18.1 +15.7 -- World Bank *+23.0 *+21.4 *+15.7 TRADE DEFICIT (BLN $) 2007 2006 2005 -- GSO 4.81 4.54 -- ADB 4.50 4.50 -- World Bank 7.98 6.31 4.65 INDUSTRIAL OUTPUT GROWTH on a year earlier -- National Assembly +17.0 +17.2 -- GSO +17.0 +17.2 -- World Bank *+17.0 *+17.0 +17.2 CURRENT ACCOUNT BALANCE as percentage of GDP -- Central bank -0.5 -- ADB +0.2 *-2.1 -3.6 -- World Bank *-0.5 *+1.6 +0.4 FOREIGN CURRENCY RESERVES in weeks of import -- Central bank *15.0 (as at Feb) 12.0 10-12 -- IMF 12.9 11.2 9.8 -- World Bank *13.2 *13.0 9.8 FOREIGN CURRENCY RESERVES ($ billion) -- Central bank 12.0 -- ADB (- gold) 11.4 9.1 -- IMF (+ gold) 15.36 11.46 8.56 -- World Bank (+ gold)*16.0 *12.5 *8.6 FOREIGN DEBT ($ billion) -- Finance Ministry 20.0 -- World Bank 21.8 19.7 17.2 FOREIGN DEBT as percentage of GDP -- Finance Ministry *31.0 37.3 35.8 -- World Bank 32.1 32.6 32.5 FOREIGN DIRECT INVESTMENT ($ billion) -- MPI ~20.0 10.2 5.89 Jan-April 2007: 3.52; Jan-April 2006: 1.9 -- World Bank *2.6 *2.15 *1.98 FOREIGN INDIRECT INVESTMENT ($ billion) -- Between $3 billion and $4 billion as of March 2007, according to the Finance Ministry estimate. NOTE: MPI stands for the Ministry of Planning and Investment. -- World Bank figures are actual inflows; -- 2007 figures by the National Assembly are targets; GSO figures are its latest estimates. -- A plan adopted by the Communist Party's Congress in April 2006 targeted average annual GDP growth of 7.5 percent to 8 percent for the 2006-2010 period, from the average growth of 7.51 percent in the five years ending in 2005. OTHER INDICATORS 1) Non-Performing Loans -- State Bank of Vietnam Deputy Governor Phung Khac Ke said in October 2006 that bad debt totalled 20 trillion dong, mostly in state-run firms. The central bank said bad debt accounted for 3.2 percent of loans at the end of 2006, against 3.18 percent (or 17.8 trillion dong) in end-2005. In March the central bank estimated Vietnam's total loans stood at 800 trillion dong ($49.7 billion). Foreign experts said in early 2006 that about 15 percent of loans in the country was bad if international accounting standards were used, compared with 4 percent based on the Vietnamese standards. 2) Sovereign ratings: -- Fitch Ratings (March 21, 2007): BB- for long-term foreign currency Issuer Default and BB for long-term local currency Issuer Default (outlook remained stable). -- Moody's (March 16, 2007): Ba3 for foreign-currency bonds and Ba3 for local-currency bonds (outlook upgraded to positive from stable). Vietnam's foreign-currency country ceiling for bonds and notes remains at Ba2 (outlook stable). -- S&P (Sept 7, 2006): BB (outlook is stable). From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 7 04:33:33 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:33:33 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Vietnam Brokerage SSI To Raise $500 Million From Overseas Markets Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41207@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Vietnam Brokerage SSI To Raise $500 Million From Overseas Markets HANOI -(Dow Jones)- Vietnam's largest brokerage Saigon Securities Inc. plans to raise $500 million from overseas markets in the coming months for its first domestic fund, company Director Nguyen Duy Hung said Monday. "SSI is seeking permission to set up its first closed investment fund, and we are expected to receive the license later this month," Hung told Dow Jones Newswires. The fund will buy shares in domestic companies under a government program to privatize large state-owned firms, which will include the country's two largest beer companies and Vietcombank. "We are preparing to have roadshows in Seoul of South Korea later this month and in New York next month," Hung said, adding that there are also plans for a London roadshow. Hung said SSI's planned fund has received interest from Japanese investors, without elaborating. "We plan to list the fund on the stock market of Singapore or London," Hung noted. SSI, with an operating capital of VND2 trillion ($125 million), has a 25% market share of the country's brokerage services, Hung said. Currently, foreigners hold less than 10% in the company. SSI shares, which are listed on Hanoi's over-the-counter market, closed up 3.4% at VND224,900 Monday, with 281,900 shares changing hands. The broader OTC market index ended 0.1% higher. -By Nguyen Pham Muoi, Hanoi Bureau, Dow Jones Newswires; 844-825-0732; phammuoi.nguyen at dowjones.com -Edited by Rosalyn Lim (END) Dow Jones Newswires 05-07-070052ET From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 7 04:34:32 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 07:34:32 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Vietnam targets Q4 to issue $1 bln offshore bond Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41208@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Monday May 7, 11:40 AM Vietnam targets Q4 to issue $1 bln offshore bond HANOI, May 7 (Reuters) - Vietnam is aiming to issue a $1 billion bond in international markets in the fourth quarter of 2007, but the country's foreign debt will remain at a "safe level", a finance ministry official was quoted on Monday as saying. Last month, the government approved a 2007 sovereign bond issue to raise $1 billion to held fund the construction of Vietnam's first oil refinery, power plants and a cargo ship. "The projects listed by the government as loan recipients are urgent... so right within this year the government will proceed with the issue on international markets," Nguyen Thi Hong Yen, a deputy manager at the ministry, told the state-run Vietnam Economic Times newspaper. She said the debt would be issued in the last quarter of 2007 and the government will sell the bond and re-lend the proceeds to Vietnamese companies. "The national foreign debt rate is only 31 percent of GDP and if more debt comes, the rate will still stay at a safe level and below 50 percent," Yen said. The World Bank forecast Vietnam's 2007 foreign debt would ease to 32.1 percent of gross domestic product, or $21.8 billion, from 32.6 percent last year and 32.5 percent in 2005. Vietnam raised $750 million in its maiden international bond in October 2005. It increased the size of the issue from an initial $500 million after generating an order book for $4.5 billion. The January 2016 bond was sold to yield 7.125 percent. Credit Suisse First Boston was the sole bookrunner. Yen said market conditions would benefit the debt issue. "The yield could not be defined immediately but it will be better than the first issue," Yen said. In March, Moody's upgraded its rating outlook for Vietnam's Ba3 foreign-currency bonds to positive from stable and Fitch Ratings assigned BB- for Vietnam's long-term foreign currency Issuer Default with a stable outlook. From a.ledieu at gmail.com Sun May 6 22:24:19 2007 From: a.ledieu at gmail.com (LeDieu Anh) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:24:19 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Fwd: Poisoned Medicine In-Reply-To: <79dfaa10705062209t7724763fp5a29132293e8496d@mail.gmail.com> References: <79dfaa10705062209t7724763fp5a29132293e8496d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <741a234c0705062224r53c10632v52b83fcb2a15a510@mail.gmail.com> FYI. Anh ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: N P Dien Date: May 7, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Poisoned Medicine To: a.ledieu at gmail.com Dear Anhfollowing article of the New York Times details how counterfeiters from China use cheap but toxic sweet-tasting solvent to make medicine and thousands of people have died. Given a neighbouring country of China, Vietnam may be already affected, but for a reason or another related fatal cases are undocumented. Be careful when you or any of your family members have to take syrupy medicine, especially cough medicine for kids. Best regards Dien >From China to Panama, a Trail of Poisoned Medicine *IN CHINA* At least 18 people, most of them in Guangdong Province, died in a month last year after they ingested contaminated medicine. By WALT BOGDANICHand JAKE HOOKER The kidneys fail first. Then the central nervous system begins to misfire. Paralysis spreads, making breathing difficult, then often impossible without assistance. In the end, most victims die. Many of them are children, poisoned at the hands of their unsuspecting parents. The syrupy poison, diethylene glycol, is an indispensable part of the modern world, an industrial solvent and prime ingredient in some antifreeze. It is also a killer. And the deaths, if not intentional, are often no accident. Over the years, the poison has been loaded into all varieties of medicine ? cough syrup, fever medication, injectable drugs ? a result of counterfeiters who profit by substituting the sweet-tasting solvent for a safe, more expensive syrup, usually glycerin, commonly used in drugs, food, toothpaste and other products. Toxic syrup has figured in at least eight mass poisonings around the world in the past two decades. Researchers estimate that thousands have died. In many cases, the precise origin of the poison has never been determined. But records and interviews show that in three of the last four cases it was made in China, a major source of counterfeit drugs. Panamais the most recent victim. Last year, government officials there unwittingly mixed diethylene glycol into 260,000 bottles of cold medicine ? with devastating results. Families have reported 365 deaths from the poison, 100 of which have been confirmed so far. With the onset of the rainy season, investigators are racing to exhume as many potential victims as possible before bodies decompose even more. Panama's death toll leads directly to Chinese companies that made and exported the poison as 99.5 percent pure glycerin. Forty-six barrels of the toxic syrup arrived via a poison pipeline stretching halfway around the world. Through shipping records and interviews with government officials, The New York Times traced this pipeline from the Panamanian port of Col?n, back through trading companies in Barcelona, Spain, and Beijing, to its beginning near the Yangtze Delta in a place local people call "chemical country." The counterfeit glycerin passed through three trading companies on three continents, yet not one of them tested the syrup to confirm what was on the label. Along the way, a certificate falsely attesting to the purity of the shipment was repeatedly altered, eliminating the name of the manufacturer and previous owner. As a result, traders bought the syrup without knowing where it came from, or who made it. With this information, the traders might have discovered ? as The Times did ? that the manufacturer was not certified to make pharmaceutical ingredients. An examination of the two poisoning cases last year ? in Panama and earlier in China ? shows how China's safety regulations have lagged behind its growing role as low-cost supplier to the world. It also demonstrates how a poorly policed chain of traders in country after country allows counterfeit medicine to contaminate the global market. Last week, the United States Food and Drug Administrationwarned drug makers and suppliers in the United States "to be especially vigilant" in watching for diethylene glycol. The warning did not specifically mention China, and it said there was "no reason to believe" that glycerin in this country was tainted. Even so, the agency asked that all glycerin shipments be tested for diethylene glycol, and said it was "exploring how supplies of glycerin become contaminated." China is already being accused by United States authorities of exporting wheat gluten containing an industrial chemical, melamine, that ended up in pet food and livestock feed. The F.D.A. recently banned imports of Chinese-made wheat gluten after it was linked to pet deaths in the United States. Beyond Panama and China, toxic syrup has caused mass poisonings in Haiti, Bangladesh, Argentina, Nigeria and twice in India. In Bangladesh, investigators found poison in seven brands of fever medication in 1992, but only after countless children died. A Massachusetts laboratory detected the contamination after Dr. Michael L. Bennish, a pediatrician who works in developing countries, smuggled samples of the tainted syrup out of the country in a suitcase. Dr. Bennish, who investigated the Bangladesh epidemic and helped write a 1995 article about it for BMJ, formerly known as the British Medical Journal, said that given the amount of medication distributed, deaths "must be in the thousands or tens of thousands." "It's vastly underreported," Dr. Bennish said of diethylene glycol poisoning. Doctors might not suspect toxic medicine, particularly in poor countries with limited resources and a generally unhealthy population, he said, adding, "Most people who die don't come to a medical facility." The makers of counterfeit glycerin, which superficially looks and acts like the real thing but generally costs considerably less, are rarely identified, much less prosecuted, given the difficulty of tracing shipments across borders. "This is really a global problem, and it needs to be handled in a global way," said Dr. Henk Bekedam, the World Health Organization's top representative in Beijing. Seventy years ago, medicine laced with diethylene glycol killed more than 100 people in the United States, leading to the passage of the toughest drug regulations of that era and the creation of the modern Food and Drug Administration. The F.D.A. has tried to help in poisoning cases around the world, but there is only so much it can do. When at least 88 children died in Haiti a decade ago, F.D.A. investigators traced the poison to the Manchurian city of Dalian, but their attempts to visit the suspected manufacturer were repeatedly blocked by Chinese officials, according to internal State Department records. Permission was granted more than a year later, but by then the plant had moved and its records had been destroyed. "Chinese officials we contacted on this matter were all reluctant to become involved," the American Embassy in Beijing wrote in a confidential cable. "We cannot be optimistic about our chances for success in tracking down the other possible glycerine shipments." In fact, The Times found records showing that the same Chinese company implicated in the Haiti poisoning also shipped about 50 tons of counterfeit glycerin to the United States in 1995. Some of it was later resold to another American customer, Avatar Corporation, before the deception was discovered. "Thank God we caught it when we did," said Phil Ternes, chief operating officer of Avatar, a Chicago-area supplier of bulk pharmaceuticalsand nonmedicinal products. The F.D.A. said it was unaware of the shipment. In China, the government is vowing to clean up its pharmaceutical industry, in part because of criticism over counterfeit drugs flooding the world markets. In December, two top drug regulators were arrested on charges of taking bribes to approve drugs. In addition, 440 counterfeiting operations were closed down last year, the World Health Organization said. But when Chinese officials investigated the role of Chinese companies in the Panama deaths, they found that no laws had been broken, according to an official of the nation's drug enforcement agency. China's drug regulation is "a black hole," said one trader who has done business through CNSC Fortune Way, the Beijing-based broker that investigators say was a crucial conduit for the Panama poison. In this environment, Wang Guiping, a tailor with a ninth-grade education and access to a chemistry book, found it easy to enter the pharmaceutical supply business as a middleman. He quickly discovered what others had before him: that counterfeiting was a simple way to increase profits. And then people in China began to die. Cheating the System Mr. Wang spent years as a tailor in the manufacturing towns of the Yangtze Delta, in eastern China. But he did not want to remain a common craftsman, villagers say. He set his sights on trading chemicals, a business rooted in the many small chemical plants that have sprouted in the region. "He didn't know what he was doing," Mr. Wang's older brother, Wang Guoping, said in an interview. "He didn't understand chemicals." But he did understand how to cheat the system. Wang Guiping, 41, realized he could earn extra money by substituting cheaper, industrial-grade syrup ? not approved for human consumption ? for pharmaceutical grade syrup. To trick pharmaceutical buyers, he forged his licenses and laboratory analysis reports, records show. Mr. Wang later told investigators that he figured no harm would come from the substitution, because he initially tested a small quantity. He did it with the expertise of a former tailor. He swallowed some of it. When nothing happened, he shipped it. One company that used the syrup beginning in early 2005 was Qiqihar No. 2 Pharmaceutical, about 1,000 miles away in Heilongjiang Province in the northeast. A buyer for the factory had seen a posting for Mr. Wang's syrup on an industry Web site. After a while, Mr. Wang set out to find an even cheaper substitute syrup so he could increase his profit even more, according to a Chinese investigator. In a chemical book he found what he was looking for: another odorless syrup ? diethylene glycol. At the time, it sold for 6,000 to 7,000 yuan a ton, or about $725 to $845, while pharmaceutical-grade syrup cost 15,000 yuan, or about $1,815, according to the investigator. Mr. Wang did not taste-test this second batch of syrup before shipping it to Qiqihar Pharmaceutical, the government investigator said, adding, "He knew it was dangerous, but he didn't know that it could kill." The manufacturer used the toxic syrup in five drug products: ampules of Amillarisin A for gall bladder problems; a special enema fluid for children; an injection for blood vessel diseases; an intravenous pain reliever; and an arthritistreatment. In April 2006, one of southern China's finest hospitals, in Guangzhou, Guangdong Province, began administering Amillarisin A. Within a month or so, at least 18 people had died after taking the medicine, though some had already been quite sick. Zhou Jianhong, 33, said his father took his first dose of Amillarisin A on April 19. A week later he was in critical condition. "If you are going to die, you want to die at home," Mr. Zhou said. "So we checked him out of the hospital." He died the next day. "Everybody wants to invest in the pharmaceutical industry and it is growing, but the regulators can't keep up," Mr. Zhou said. "We need a system to assure our safety." The final death count is unclear, since some people who took the medicine may have died in less populated areas. In a small town in Sichuan Province, a man named Zhou Lianghui said the authorities would not acknowledge that his wife had died from taking tainted Amillarisin A. But Mr. Zhou, 38, said he matched the identification number on the batch of medicine his wife received with a warning circular distributed by drug officials. "You probably cannot understand a small town if you are in Beijing," Zhou Lianghui said in a telephone interview. "The sky is high, and the emperor is far away. There are a lot of problems here that the law cannot speak to." The failure of the government to stop poison from contaminating the drug supply caused one of the bigger domestic scandals of the year. Last May, China's premier, Wen Jiabao, ordered an investigation of the deaths, declaring, "The pharmaceutical market is in disorder." At about the same time, 9,000 miles away in Panama, the long rainy season had begun. Anticipating coldsand coughs, the government health program began manufacturing cough and antihistamine syrup. The cough medicine was sugarless so that even diabeticscould use it. The medicine was mixed with a pale yellow, almost translucent syrup that had arrived in 46 barrels from Barcelona on the container ship Tobias Maersk. Shipping records showed the contents to be 99.5 percent pure glycerin. It would be months and many deaths later before that certification was discovered to be pure fiction. A Mysterious Illness Early last September, doctors at Panama City's big public hospital began to notice patients exhibiting unusual symptoms. They initially appeared to have Guillain-Barr? syndrome, a relatively rare neurological disorder that first shows up as a weakness or tingling sensation in the legs. That weakness often intensifies, spreading upward to the arms and chest, sometimes causing total paralysis and an inability to breathe. The new patients had paralysis, but it did not spread upward. They also quickly lost their ability to urinate, a condition not associated with Guillain-Barr?. Even more unusual was the number of cases. In a full year, doctors might see eight cases of Guillain-Barr?, yet they saw that many in just two weeks. Doctors sought help from an infectious disease specialist, N?stor Sosa, an intense, driven doctor who competes in triathlons and high-level chess. Dr. Sosa's medical specialty had a long, rich history in Panama, once known as one of the world's unhealthiest places. In one year in the late 1800s, a lethal mix of yellow fever and malariakilled nearly 1 in every 10 residents of Panama City. Only after the United States managed to overcome those mosquito-borne diseases was it able to build the Panama Canal without the devastation that undermined an earlier attempt by the French. The suspected Guillain-Barr? cases worried Dr. Sosa. "It was something really extraordinary, something that was obviously reaching epidemic dimensions in our hospital," he said. With the death rate from the mystery illness near 50 percent, Dr. Sosa alerted the hospital management, which asked him to set up and run a task force to handle the situation. The assignment, a daunting around-the-clock dash to catch a killer, was one he eagerly embraced. Several years earlier, Dr. Sosa had watched as other doctors identified the cause of another epidemic, later identified as hantavirus, a pathogen spread by infected rodents. "I took care of patients but I somehow felt I did not do enough," he said. The next time, he vowed, would be different. Dr. Sosa set up a 24-hour "war room" in the hospital, where doctors could compare notes and theories as they scoured medical records for clues. As a precaution, the patients with the mystery illness were segregated and placed in a large empty room awaiting renovation. Health care workers wore masks, heightening fears in the hospital and the community. "That spread a lot of panic," said Dr. Jorge Motta, a cardiologist who runs the Gorgas Memorial Institute, a widely respected medical research center in Panama. "That is always a terrifying thought, that you will be the epicenter of a new infectious disease, and especially a new infectious disease that kills with a high rate of death, like this." Meanwhile, patients kept coming, and hospital personnel could barely keep up. "I ended up giving C.P.R.," Dr. Sosa said. "I haven't given C.P.R. since I was a resident, but there were so many crises going on." Frightened hospital patients had to watch others around them die for reasons no one understood, fearing that they might be next. As reports of strange Guillain-Barr? symptoms started coming in from other parts of the country, doctors realized they were not just dealing with a localized outbreak. Pascuala P?rez de Gonz?lez, 67, sought treatment for a cold at a clinic in Cocl? Province, about a three-hour drive from Panama City. In late September she was treated and sent home. Within days, she could no longer eat; she stopped urinating and went into convulsions. A decision was made to take her to the public hospital in Panama City, but on the way she stopped breathing and had to be resuscitated. She arrived at the hospital in a deep coma and later died. Medical records contained clues but also plenty of false leads. Early victims tended to be males older than 60 and diabetic with high blood pressure. About half had been given Lisinopril, a blood pressure medicine distributed by the public health system. But many who did not receive Lisinopril still got sick. On the chance that those patients might have forgotten that they had taken the drug, doctors pulled Lisinopril from pharmacy shelves ? only to return it after tests found nothing wrong. Investigators would later discover that Lisinopril did play an important, if indirect role in the epidemic, but not in the way they had imagined. A Major Clue One patient of particular interest to Dr. Sosa came into the hospital with a heart attack, but no Guillain-Barr?-type symptoms. While undergoing treatment, the patient received several drugs, including Lisinopril. After a while, he began to exhibit the same neurological distress that was the hallmark of the mystery illness. "This patient is a major clue," Dr. Sosa recalled saying. "This is not something environmental, this is not a folk medicine that's been taken by the patients at home. This patient developed the disease in the hospital, in front of us." Soon after, another patient told Dr. Sosa that he, too, developed symptoms after taking Lisinopril, but because the medicine made him cough, he also took cough syrup ? the same syrup, it turned out, that had been given to the heart patient. "I said this has got to be it," Dr. Sosa recalled. "We need to investigate this cough syrup." The cough medicine had not initially aroused much suspicion because many victims did not remember taking it. "Twenty-five percent of those people affected denied that they had taken cough syrup, because it's a nonevent in their lives," Dr. Motta said. Investigators from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who were in Panama helping out, quickly put the bottles on a government jet and flew them to the United States for testing. The next day, Oct. 11, as Panamanian health officials were attending a news conference, a Blackberry in the room went off. The tests, the C.D.C. was reporting, had turned up diethylene glycol in the cough syrup. The mystery had been solved. The barrels labeled glycerin turned out to contain poison. Dr. Sosa's exhilaration at learning the cause did not last long. "It's our medication that is killing these people," he said he thought. "It's not a virus, it's not something that they got outside, but it was something we actually manufactured." A nationwide campaign was quickly begun to stop people from using the cough syrup. Neighborhoods were searched, but thousands of bottles either had been discarded or could not be found. As the search wound down, two major tasks remained: count the dead and assign blame. Neither has been easy. A precise accounting is all but impossible because, medical authorities say, victims were buried before the cause was known, and poor patients might not have seen doctors. Another problem is that finding traces of diethylene glycol in decomposing bodies is difficult at best, medical experts say. Nonetheless, an Argentine pathologist who has studied diethylene glycol poisonings helped develop a test for the poison in exhumed bodies. Seven of the first nine bodies tested showed traces of the poison, Panamanian authorities said. With the rainy season returning, though, the exhumations are about to end. Dr. Jos? Vicente Pachar, director of Panama's Institute of Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences, said that as a scientist he would like a final count of the dead. But he added, "I should accept the reality that in the case of Panama we are not going to know the exact number." Local prosecutors have made some arrests and are investigating others connected to the case, including officials of the import company and the government agency that mixed and distributed the cold medicine. "Our responsibilities are to establish or discover the truth," said Dimas Guevara, the homicide investigator guiding the inquiry. But prosecutors have yet to charge anyone with actually making the counterfeit glycerin. And if the Panama investigation unfolds as other inquiries have, it is highly unlikely that they ever will. A Suspect Factory Panamanians wanting to see where their toxic nightmare began could look up the Web site of the company in Hengxiang, China, that investigators in four countries have identified as having made the syrup ? the Taixing Glycerine Factory. There, under the words "About Us," they would see a picture of a modern white building nearly a dozen stories tall, adorned by three arches at the entrance. The factory, the Web site boasts, "can strictly obey the contract and keep its word." But like the factory's syrup, all is not as it seems. There are no tall buildings in Hengxiang, a country town with one main road. The factory is not certified to sell any medical ingredients, Chinese officials say. And it looks nothing like the picture on the Internet. In reality, its chemicals are mixed in a plain, one-story brick building. The factory is in a walled compound, surrounded by small shops and farms. In the spring, nearby fields of rape paint the countryside yellow. Near the front gate, a sign over the road warns, "Beware of counterfeits." But it was posted by a nearby noodle machine factory that appears to be worried about competition. The Taixing Glycerine Factory bought its diethylene glycol from the same manufacturer as Mr. Wang, the former tailor, the government investigator said. From this spot in China's chemical country, the 46 barrels of toxic syrup began their journey, passing from company to company, port to port and country to country, apparently without anyone testing their contents. Traders should be thoroughly familiar with their suppliers, United States health officials say. "One simply does not assume that what is labeled is indeed what it is," said Dr. Murray Lumpkin, deputy commissioner for international and special programs for the Food and Drug Administration. In the Panama case, names of suppliers were removed from shipping documents as they passed from one entity to the next, according to records and investigators. That is a practice some traders use to prevent customers from bypassing them on future purchases, but it also hides the provenance of the product. The first distributor was the Beijing trading company, CNSC Fortune Way, a unit of a state-owned business that began by supplying goods and services to Chinese personnel and business officials overseas. As China's market reach expanded, Fortune Way focused its business on pharmaceutical ingredients, and in 2003, it brokered the sale of the suspect syrup made by the Taixing Glycerine Factory. The manufacturer's certificate of analysis showed the batch to be 99.5 percent pure. Whether the Taixing Glycerine Factory actually performed the test has not been publicly disclosed. Original certificates of analysis should be passed on to each new buyer, said Kevin J. McGlue, a board member of the International Pharmaceutical Excipients Council. In this case, that was not done. Fortune Way translated the certificate into English, putting its name ? not the Taixing Glycerine Factory's ? at the top of the document, before shipping the barrels to a second trading company, this one in Barcelona. Li Can, managing director at Fortune Way, said he did not remember the transaction and could not comment, adding, "There is a high volume of trade." Upon receiving the barrels in September 2003, the Spanish company, Rasfer International, did not test the contents, either. It copied the chemical analysis provided by Fortune Way, then put its logo on it. Ascensi?n Criado, Rasfer's manager, said in an e-mail response to written questions that when Fortune Way shipped the syrup, it did not say who made it. Several weeks later, Rasfer shipped the drums to a Panamanian broker, the Medicom Business Group. "Medicom never asked us for the name of the manufacturer," Ms. Criado said. A lawyer for Medicom, Valent?n Ja?n, said his client was a victim, too. "They were tricked by somebody," Mr. Ja?n said. "They operated in good faith." In Panama, the barrels sat unused for more than two years, and officials said Medicom improperly changed the expiration date on the syrup. During that time, the company never tested the product. And the Panamanian government, which bought the 46 barrels and used them to make cold medicine, also failed to detect the poison, officials said. The toxic pipeline ultimately emptied into the bloodstream of people like Ernesto Osorio, a former high school teacher in Panama City. He spent two months in the hospital after ingesting poison cough syrup last September. Just before Christmas, after a kidney dialysis treatment, Mr. Osorio stood outside the city's big public hospital in a tear-splattered shirt, describing what his life had become. "I'm not an eighth of what I used to be," Mr. Osorio said, his partly paralyzed face hanging like a slab of meat. "I have trouble walking. Look at my face, look at my tears." The tears, he said apologetically, were not from emotion, but from nerve damage. And yet, Mr. Osorio knows he is one of the lucky victims. "They didn't know how to keep the killer out of the medicine," he said simply. While the suffering in Panama was great, the potential profit ? at least for the Spanish trading company, Rasfer ? was surprisingly small. For the 46 barrels of glycerin, Rasfer paid Fortune Way $9,900, then sold them to Medicom for $11,322, according to records. Chinese authorities have not disclosed how much Fortune Way and the Taixing Glycerine Factory made on their end, or how much they knew about what was in the barrels. "The fault has to be traced back to areas of production," said Dr. Motta, the cardiologist in Panama who helped uncover the source of the epidemic. "This was my plea ? please, this thing is happening to us, make sure whoever did this down the line is not doing it to Peru or Sierra Leone or some other place." A Counterfeiter's Confession The power to prosecute the counterfeiters is now in the hands of the Chinese. Last spring, the government moved quickly against Mr. Wang, the former tailor who poisoned Chinese residents. The authorities caught up with him at a roadblock in Taizhou, a city just north of Taixing, in chemical country. He was weak and sick, and he had not eaten in two days. Inside his white sedan was a bankbook and cash. He had fled without his wife and teenage son. Chinese patients were dead, a political scandal was brewing and the authorities wanted answers. Mr. Wang was taken to a hospital. Then, in long sessions with investigators, he gave them what they wanted, explaining his scheme, how he tested industrial syrup by drinking it, how he decided to use diethylene glycol and how he conned pharmaceutical companies into buying his syrup, according to a government official who was present for his interrogation. "He made a fortune, but none of it went to his family," said Wang Xiaodong, a former village official who knows Mr. Wang and his siblings. "He liked to gamble." Mr. Wang remains in custody as the authorities decide whether he should be put to death. The Qiqihar drug plant that made the poisonous medicine has been closed, and five employees are now being prosecuted for causing "a serious accident." In contrast to the Wang Guiping investigation, Chinese authorities have been tentative in acknowledging China's link to the Panama tragedy, which involved a state-owned trading company. No one in China has been charged with committing the fraud that ended up killing so many in Panama. Sun Jing, the pharmaceutical program officer for the World Health Organization in Beijing, said the health agency sent a fax "to remind the Chinese government that China should not be selling poisonous products overseas." Ms. Sun said the agency did not receive an official reply. Last fall, at the request of the United States ? Panama has no diplomatic relations with China ? the State Food and Drug Administration of China investigated the Taixing Glycerine Factory and Fortune Way. The agency tested one batch of glycerin from the factory, and found no glycerin, only diethylene glycol and two other substances, a drug official said. Since then, the Chinese drug administration has concluded that it has no jurisdiction in the case because the factory is not certified to make medicine. The agency reached a similar conclusion about Fortune Way, saying that as an exporter it was not engaged in the pharmaceutical business. "We did not find any evidence that either of these companies had broken the law," said Yan Jiangying, a spokeswoman for the drug administration. "So a criminal investigation was never opened." A drug official said the investigation was subsequently handed off to an agency that tests and certifies commercial products ? the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine. But the agency acted surprised to learn that it was now in charge. "What investigation?" asked Wang Jian, director of its Taixing branch. "I'm not aware of any investigation involving a glycerin factory." Besides, Huang Tong, an investigator in that office, said, "We rarely get involved in products that are sold for export." Wan Qigang, the legal representative for the Taixing Glycerine Factory, said in an interview late last year that the authorities had not questioned him about the Panama poisoning, and that his company made only industrial-grade glycerin. "I can tell you for certain that we have no connection with Panama or Spain," Mr. Wan said. But in recent months, the Glycerine Factory has advertised 99.5 percent pure glycerin on the Internet. Mr. Wan recently declined to answer any more questions. "If you come here as a guest, I will welcome you," Mr. Wan said. "But if you come again wanting to talk about this matter, I will make a telephone call." A local government official said Mr. Wan was told not to grant interviews. A five-minute walk away, another manufacturer, the Taixing White Oil Factory, also advertises medical glycerin on the Internet, yet it, too, has no authorization to make it. The company's Web site says its products "have been exported to America, Australia and Italy." Ding Xiang, who represents the White Oil Factory, denied that his company made pharmaceutical-grade glycerin, but he said chemical trading companies in Beijing often called, asking for it. "They want us to mark the barrels glycerin," Mr. Ding said in late December. "I tell them we cannot do that." Mr. Ding said he stopped answering calls from Beijing. "If this stuff is taken overseas and improperly used. ..." He did not complete the thought. In chemical country, product names are not always what they seem. "The only two factories in Taixing that make glycerin don't even make glycerin," said Jiang Peng, who oversees inspections and investigations in the Taixing branch of the State Food and Drug Administration. "It is a different product." All in a Name One lingering mystery involves the name of the product made by the Taixing Glycerine Factory. The factory had called its syrup "TD" glycerin. The letters TD were in virtually all the shipping documents. What did TD mean? Spanish medical authorities concluded that it stood for a manufacturing process. Chinese inspectors thought it was the manufacturer's secret formula. But Yuan Kailin, a former salesman for the factory , said he knew what the TD meant because a friend and former manager of the factory, Ding Yuming, had once told him. TD stood for the Chinese word "tidai" (pronounced tee-die), said Mr. Yuan, who left his job in 1998 and still lives about a mile from the factory. In Chinese, tidai means substitute. A clue that might have revealed the poison, the counterfeit product, was hiding in plain sight. It was in the product name. Renwick McLean and Brent McDonald contributed reporting. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/9154670c/attachment-0001.html From jlladins at wisc.edu Mon May 7 07:28:55 2007 From: jlladins at wisc.edu (Judy Ladinsky) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:28:55 -0500 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20070507092428.02df9508@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Dear Hoanh My sincere sympathy for your mother. I will be going to Vietnam and arrive on May 19 in Hanoi. If you are there, please call me in Hanoi at 0913558574. I hope you are fine and have the strength to take care of your mother. If I can do anything please call me I also had a stroke about 5 years ago but am well now Best wishes Dr. Judy Ladinsky USCFSCWVN >We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and >condition and shortly be recovered. > >Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. > >Let' s keep the fingers crossed. > >Bye for now. > >Dao Xuan Lam > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Mercedes Benz >To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net >Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM >Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom > > >[ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > >---------- >Dear a. Hoanh, > >Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please >believe that! > >My best regards, > >Nam. > >On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com >< toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote: >[ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > >Dear Anh Hoanh, >Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. >Em Toan. > > > > >On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com> >wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > > Subject: My Schedule > > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > Dear CACC, > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > convenience this may generate. > > Have a good day, > > Hoanh > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > Washington DC > > > >-- >Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD >Washington DC >_______________________________________________ >To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at >vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net >Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz >Archive at >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ >or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ >or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/2ea882f3/attachment.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Mon May 7 09:43:56 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:43:56 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20070507092428.02df9508@wiscmail.wisc.edu> References: <97dd19d0705060424y4ae59bd9k687367875abcf820@mail.gmail.com> <02b101c79002$3c8ee300$4001a8c0@ovhcm.ovclub.vn> <5.2.1.1.0.20070507092428.02df9508@wiscmail.wisc.edu> Message-ID: Thank you for the note, Judy. I won't be able to see you in Hanoi (But I hope that we would be able to meet one of these days). have a good trip, Judy. Hoanh On 5/7/07, Judy Ladinsky wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear Hoanh > My sincere sympathy for your mother. I will be going to Vietnam and > arrive on May 19 in Hanoi. If you are there, please call me in Hanoi at > 0913558574. I hope you are fine and have the strength to take care of your > mother. If I can do anything please call me > I also had a stroke about 5 years ago but am well now > Best wishes > Dr. Judy Ladinsky > USCFSCWVN > > > > > > > > > > > We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and > condition and shortly be recovered. > > Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. > > Let' s keep the fingers crossed. > > Bye for now. > > Dao Xuan Lam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mercedes Benz > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > ------------------------------ > Dear a. Hoanh, > > Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please > believe that! > > My best regards, > > Nam. > > On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com < toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > Dear Anh Hoanh, > Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. > Em Toan. > > > > > On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > > Subject: My Schedule > > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > Dear CACC, > > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the > hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are > overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I > have not responded to your message, you know why. Sorry for any in > convenience this may generate. > > Have a good day, > > Hoanh > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > Washington DC > > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/6c5939bc/attachment.html From Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov Mon May 7 09:52:31 2007 From: Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov (Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:52:31 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh, I don't think I've met your Mom in person. Is she at home or in the hospital now? Would you and your family welcome a visit? Never underestimate to power of prayers, especially collective prayers. Sometimes, it's the only thing left to do. I was personally reminded of this last week, when I fell off a ladder on May 1st working around the house. During the first ten minutes or so after the fall, when I was flat on my back, in pain, couldn't move and not certain what shape I was in, I prayed. I am happy to report that while the injuries will keep me from heavy lifting for 6 weeks while the compression fractures in my L1 lumbar heals, my sore muscles are recovering well and I am up and moving almost normally. It could have been much worse. It's been a wake up call that we are not getting any younger, nor more flexible physically. Best, HPP "Tran Dinh Hoanh" Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 05/06/2007 03:56 PM Please respond to vnbiz at vietlinks.net To vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc Subject Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear CACC, Thank you for your generous email about my mom. Your messages give me warmth and courage. As you can imagine, dealing with stroke is not easy. According to the doctors, my mom got a "massive stroke." She is a fighter and she is fighting her biggest battle. I cannot do much other than praying and be by her side to give her some encouragement. She is not very conscious but I believe that she can feel my presence. This is the woman who forms my characters. She is a very average woman. She did not even finish fifth grade (She was not allowed to go school because she was a girl and "girls did not need school," but she learned from school from outside the window). She was a country girl and was urbanized from moving around the country with a military husband. My dad, by the time he retired, was a lieutenant. It meant, he couldn't support the family at all. My mom very much single-handedly raised nine children. She just did whatever she could to make money to feed us. She did not understand anything sophisticated in life, like politics, or elite music (like Trinh Cong Son or Le Uyen Phuong), or gender equality. She just went out trying whatever she could to raise us kids during the war time. But from her, I have learned to respect women, to respect the country folks, to respect the folks with no formal education but active in life, to understand the wisdom of fighting your way through life whatever difficulties you face. The biggest thing I have learned from my mom is that you can be so average but still be great. Anyway, now that she is in her fiercest battle, I can't do much other than praying and standing beside her and watch her fight. From her body movements to the facial expressions, I can see that she is fighting with all her might. And that moves me greatly. I have always admired her fighting spirit. I said quietly, "After all, you are my mom." Thank you, brothers and sisters, for your support and prayers. May God bless us all. I will keep you informed. Have a great day! Hoanh ___________ On 5/6/07, Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager (G-mail) wrote: Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, We are very sorry to hear that your mother has been hit by a stroke and still has been hospitalised. We all sincerely wish her soonest to over come the bad situation and condition and shortly be recovered. Please could you pass our very best regards onto her. Let' s keep the fingers crossed. Bye for now. Dao Xuan Lam ----- Original Message ----- From: Mercedes Benz To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear a. Hoanh, Please do not worry so much since she is getting better each day! Please believe that! My best regards, Nam. On 5/4/07, ToanDucPham at GMail.com < toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear Anh Hoanh, Do hope she will get well soon. My warmest regards, please. Em Toan. On 5/4/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> > Date: May 4, 2007 8:45 AM > Subject: My Schedule > To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net > Dear CACC, > My mom has recently been hit by a stroke. She is still in the hospital. Phuong and I need to spend time with her often. So we are overloaded. That means, I may be a little slow. So if you wonder why I have not responded to your message, you know why. 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/26c1cfeb/attachment.html From chucksearcy at yahoo.com Mon May 7 10:04:03 2007 From: chucksearcy at yahoo.com (Chuck Searcy) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] Peeking under the surface of globalization In-Reply-To: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41205@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Message-ID: <846925.28894.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks very much for this, but please, in the future, indicate the source. Wall St. Journal? Deutsche Press? Altman's blog? The place where an article appeared is sometimes a good indication of why a certain tone or choice of terms is conveyed. Thanks again. Chuck Searcy "Phan, Tai" wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Peeking under the surface of globalization Intel's experience in Vietnam shows the web of connections behind the global economy. By Daniel Altman Published: May 4, 2007 Every day, newspapers and television broadcasts are full of numbers that supposedly tell the public how the global economy is doing. Like the markings on a thousand thermometers, the numbers go up and down: stock market indexes, payroll data, interest rates, quarterly earnings, trade deficits, you name it. The problem is, none of these numbers tells you how the global economy actually works. But what if you could go behind the scenes - freeze the global economy for a sliver of time, just long enough to get a really good look at it? Then you'd have a pretty good idea of what was connected to what and who relied on whom. You'd see how the global economy is like an enormous machine crammed with six billion interlocking cogs and wheels - one for every person inside. Unfreeze the action, and the cogs and wheels whirl away as the world's workers spring back into action. Not everyone's wheel is the same size, but everyone's wheel matters. To use another metaphor: Think of the proverbial butterfly that beats its wings in the air over Australia and helps to cause a hurricane thousands of miles away in the Gulf of Mexico. Like the earth's own atmosphere, the economy is a closed system - everything's connected, and every individual's actions instantly affect everyone else. Sometimes this fact is lost in the countless hours of commentary on television and radio, to say nothing of the endless articles and books, about a topic vaguely called globalization. Yet much of the resulting debate amounts to "globalization good" or "globalization bad." And that kind of name-calling doesn't do much to help you cope with the changing world. The only empirically obvious truth is that the forces often labeled "globalization" - the integration of markets, the spread of ideas, the formalization of the world trading system, and whatever else you care to place under the umbrella - are here to stay. Wouldn't it be better - and more interesting - to take a broad sampling of facts and judge for yourself? A nighttime drive along Nguyen Van Troi Street - Ho Chi Minh City's version of the Las Vegas strip - is a study in outrageous contrasts. The graceful colonial villas that house official offices behind forbidding metal fences have been swamped by trendy caf??s, bars, restaurants, and shops open until the wee hours. The patriotic banners hanging nearby, all in gold letters on a red background, are barely legible in the blinding light of thousands of tubes of neon. Is this really a Communist country? Not on your life. The entrepreneurial tradition is just too deeply rooted. Dozens of private businesses dot the sidewalks. New storefronts selling everything from silk bathrobes to spa treatments are popping up all over Ho Chi Minh City. Likewise, the old Honda Dream mopeds are quickly giving way to racy new Yamaha scooters. Entire families still pile on, just like they used to, but they're not wearing plain white shirts and dark trousers anymore - now it's tight jeans, designer tops, and plenty of makeup. Vietnam didn't get this way all by itself. Foreign companies have had a hand in the country's growing prosperity. Naturally, they didn't get involved out of charity. They're trying to find cheaper places to make their products, or new people who might buy them. It's a mission that has often led to controversy, with accusations raging from substandard treatment of workers to wrecked indigenous cultures. But arguments against companies reaching around the world to produce or sell are being washed away, if not always answered, by the twin tides of trade and investment. The more relevant question today is whether these multinational relationships can be managed in a way that benefits both guests and hosts. Intel, the microchip maker, would respond with an emphatic yes. The company has been operating in Vietnam since 1997, the year when several countries in the region experienced financial crises that deterred many other businesses from investing. In 2000, the United States opened trade relations with Vietnam for the first time since the two countries stopped fighting. And it was then that Intel sent Than Trong Phuc home. Phuc left Ho Chi Minh City on the last night it was called Saigon, in one of the last helicopters to take off from the roof of the American Embassy. Soon afterward, he was adjusting to life as a newly minted California teenager. Today, three decades after he fled Vietnam, he is the living embodiment of Intel's shrewd strategy for expansion into developing countries It's a sweltering summer day outside, but Phuc and Le Quoc Anh, a Vietnamese-American born in Virginia, are sitting at a conference table in the cool comfort of Intel's air-conditioned offices. Phuc, a trim man with a gray-flecked mustache who runs the operation, is flipping through a slide presentation on his laptop while Anh, his jovial public relations manager, takes notes. As each slide pops up on the projection screen, Phuc's steady gaze checks with his audience to make sure his explanation has sunk in. One slide elicits a special mention, though. "This is the Communist Party of Vietnam Web site," Phuc says brightly as the projector shows an image taken from a Web browser. "We made the headline!" And indeed, there on the screen is Intel's name, in an announcement of the deal that is supposed to bring Vietnam to the cutting edge of the digital era. "I thought the day would never come," Anh adds. Phuc and Anh agree that if they brought this slide to their immigrant friends in the United States, they would not believe it. But cooperation with the government is the name of Intel's game in Vietnam. In a way, it has to be. Foreign companies' access to Vietnam is still tightly controlled by the government, and the government has a profound involvement in the lives of Vietnamese. "The government's role in Vietnamese society is pervasive," Phuc says. "Their influence and their mind share is everywhere." Rather than seeing this unusual situation as a handicap, however, Intel has tried to exploit it. >From the moment Phuc arrived in Ho Chi Minh City, he set about cultivating government officials. His initial step was to understand their goals. The first, he says, is to increase the use of personal computers and the Internet. The second is to make Vietnam an exporter of high-tech items, and preferably those that don't require a lot of equipment to produce. "In manufacturing on the hardware side, the capital cost is big," Phuc explains, adding that Taiwan already has the upper hand in that market. Instead, he says, "the government wants Vietnam to be an exporter of information technology. All you need is a brain." With a million graduates entering the work force every year, the need for these jobs couldn't be plainer. Intel's goal is clear, too, and Phuc makes no bones about it: sell more chips. But rather than simply hanging out a shingle and waiting for customers to arrive, Phuc spends most of his time actively working to develop the market. That means coming up with an endless stream of ideas for putting people together with computers, since more demand for computers implies more chips. And so it came to pass that Intel, with just a handful of people working out of an office in Ho Chi Minh City, became the driving force for Vietnam's entire computer industry. Phuc divided the market into three segments, separated by income. The high end presented no challenges; they'd buy whatever computers they wanted. The low end probably couldn't afford to buy any computers, so the question was how to give them access to software and the Internet in a community setting. That's when Phuc got to know Vu Duc Dam. Vu was vice chairman to the people's committee in Bac Ninh, an inland farming province in the north. He had studied abroad and was interested in promoting Vietnam's digital future. But what would Bac Ninh's poor farmers do with computers? The answer, in part a product of Intel's constant brainstorming, is now on show at 200 community centers across Bac Ninh. Each one houses five personal computers and one printer. A local Web site created by the Agriculture Ministry offers daily crop prices. In addition, online maps clearly show the boundaries of land allotments, previously a frequent topic of disagreements. The system can also be used to set up distribution routes. For farmers, it's a valuable resource. For Intel, it's 1,000 chips sold. Though farmers sharing computers is all well and good, Intel's prime target was always the middle segment of the population, a group Phuc now estimates at about three million households with income from $2,000 to $6,000 annually. How could Intel encourage these people to stretch their budgets and become new customers? Working with the government's Communist youth group, Intel developed a program under the brand Thanh Giong, the name of a legendary Vietnamese hero who magically overcame disability to beat back the enemy of his people. To beat back the enemy of illiteracy (and thus unemployment), the program would sell computers costing $265, $320 and $420. Intel acted as matchmaker between suppliers in Taiwan and Vietnamese assemblers, whom it also helped with testing, debugging and quality control. So far, the Thanh Giong systems have been selling at a rate of 3,000 a month. "Intel doesn't do this for free," Phuc says. "We don't even take a loss." though the program began in just a few provinces, now all 64 have followed the Thanh Giong lead. "And of course," Phuc adds, "we helped everyone." Phuc's approach, which he credits in part to the ideas of Intel's chairman, Craig Bennett, has become a model for Intel divisions throughout Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe. The government is planning another Thanh Giong program to reach small businesses, which it hopes will triple in number in the next five years. The "digital Vietnam" agreement that Intel's chief executive, Paul Otellini, signed June 15 includes a stunning plan for the future: computer labs in all schools, e-government programs in all provinces, personal computers in all 900 hospitals and 260 universities, rural Internet rollouts, and even wireless Internet covering entire cities. Intel has succeeded in Vietnam because its goal and the government's are roughly the same: more Vietnamese using more computers. Essentially, Intel gave the government a menu of options - all of which were good for Intel - and followed up on the ones the government liked. The company has taken advantage of cheap marketing and played up to local traditions. At worst, it can be accused of encouraging people to spend their money on computers instead of other things, perhaps including necessities. The situation could hardly be better. Intel hasn't always been able to avoid controversy, however. Like other companies, it has been blamed for being a badly behaved guest. For instance, by building a large plant in Kiryat Gat, an Israeli town that belonged to Palestinians before 1948, Intel became the target of boycotts from pro-Palestinian groups. They accused the company of helping Israel to limit Palestinian families' ability to regain their ancestral homes. There is no shortage of other stories, especially involving American businesses. Things are changing, though. Ironically, the same corporations that activists used to castigate for using sweatshops in poor countries may now be the entities most responsible for spreading progressive labor practices. For example, Gap Inc., which was once criticized for using exploitative clothing suppliers on three continents, has more recently been praised for coming clean about its violations of labor laws, pledging to reverse them, and even solving a dispute between workers and local bosses in Cambodia. The company only changed its ways after years of sustained pressure from activists and consumers. But the case proved that under their watchful eye, multinational companies can bring progress as well as problems. When the activists' voices and consumers' pocketbooks make visible examples out of offenders, it's much less likely that others will test the limits of acceptable behavior. >From "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" by Daniel Altman, published this month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/8bf18f79/attachment.html From admarshall at gmail.com Mon May 7 16:47:34 2007 From: admarshall at gmail.com (AD Marshall) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:47:34 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Peeking under the surface of globalization In-Reply-To: <846925.28894.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41205@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> <846925.28894.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <184392620705071647j60d8e80fmcf1fa9d4ba1a88c6@mail.gmail.com> Agreement with Chuck Searcy: Source references should always be included, preferably including URLs. Fortunately, in this case at least, a quick search of the title and subtitle indicate the report almost certainly came from the International Herald Tribune's website. See http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/04/business/wbglobe.php On 5/8/07, Chuck Searcy wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Thanks very much for this, but *please*, in the future, indicate the > source. *Wall St. Journal*? Deutsche Press? Altman's blog? The place > where an article appeared is sometimes a good indication of why a certain > tone or choice of terms is conveyed. Thanks again. > > Chuck Searcy > > *"Phan, Tai" * wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > Peeking under the surface of globalization > Intel's experience in Vietnam shows the web of connections behind the > global economy. > > By Daniel Altman > Published: May 4, 2007 > > Every day, newspapers and television broadcasts are full of numbers that > supposedly tell the public how the global economy is doing. Like the > markings on a thousand thermometers, the numbers go up and down: stock > market indexes, payroll data, interest rates, quarterly earnings, trade > deficits, you name it. The problem is, none of these numbers tells you how > the global economy actually works. > > [cut - ADM] > > -- AD (AnDi) Marshall Mobile: +84 (0) 903871313 eMail: admarshall at gmail.com Zone: ICT (IndoChina Time, GMT/UTC+7) Web: http://admarshall.googlepages.com/ Post: HoChiMinh City (ex/or SaiGon), VietNam Quote: "Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none..." Source: Shakespeare, "All's Well That Ends Well", I:i Get it at Gutenberg: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2246 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/9d603253/attachment-0001.html From cstevenson2000 at gmail.com Mon May 7 17:15:26 2007 From: cstevenson2000 at gmail.com (Craig Stevenson) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Peeking under the surface of globalization In-Reply-To: <846925.28894.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41205@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> <846925.28894.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chuck: I neither posted the article nor know where it was exactly sourced but I think it is excerpted from Altman's book. I assume the book to be called: "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" It is stated at the very end of the article: ">From "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" by Daniel Altman, published this month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Copyright ?(c) 2007 by Daniel Altman. All rights reserved" For other books, articles, and interesting datasets on Globalization, see the following, which offer a more balanced perspective: Chua, A. (2004). *World on Fire*. New York: Anchor Books. (BOOK, G is leading to inequality and ethnic conflict.) Dreher, A. (2006). Does Globalization Affect Growth? Evidence from a New Index of Globalization. *Applied Economics*, 38(10), 1091-1110. Retrieved from http://globalization.kof.ethz.ch/. (a dataset that creates an index of globalization from social, economic and political factors) Firebaugh, G. (1999). Empirics of World Income Inequality. *American Journal of Sociology, *104(6), 1597?1630. Retrieved from the EBSCO database. (Looks at different perspectives, and methodologies for testing whether Inequality is rising or declining) Firebraugh, J., & Goesling, B. (2004). Accounting for the Recent Decline in Global Income Inequality. *American Journal of Sociology, *10(2), 283-312. Retrieved from the EBSCO database. (Finds Inequality to be converging, or falling, mostly due to growth in Asia among populous nations) Friedman, T. (2005). *The World is Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century.* New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux. (Champions G. for, as name implies, creating level playing ground and converging income equality.) Jones, C.I. (1997). On the Evolution of the World Income Distribution. *The Journal of Economic Perspectives*, 11(3), 19-36. Retrieved from the JSTOR database. (Looks at how measures of income distribution between and within nations are composed) Morgan, J. (Aug/1962).* *The Anatomy of Income Distribution. *The Review of Economics and * *Statistics*, 44(3), 270-283. Retrieved from the JSTOR database. (Same as above, but looking at older models) Sala-I-Martin, X. (2006). THE WORLD DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME: FALLING POVERTY AND CONVERGENCE, PERIOD. *The Quarterly Journal of Economics, *71(2), 351-397. (Very comprehensive, champion of income convergence. Look at this one) Shorrocks, A.F. (Sep/1995). Revisiting the Sen Poverty Index. *Econometrica*, 63(5), 1225-1230. Retrieved from the ABI/Inform database. (Sen is the grand master of inequality and poverty literature. Interesting) Steger, M.B. (2003). *Globalization: A Very Short Introduction*. New York: Oxford University Press. (Good, general, brief, look at the phenomenon) Stiglitz, J.E. (2003). *Globalization and its Discontents*. New York: W.W. Norton & Company. (Written by the Nobel Prize Winning Economist. Interesting. Perspective as name implies) Summers, R. & Heston, A. (1991). THE PENN WORLD TABLE (MARK 5): AN EXPANDED SET OF INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS, 1950-1988. *The Quarterly Journal of * *Economics*, 106(2), 327-368. Retrieved from the JSTOR database. *(Speaks to the primary database for GDP PPP measures for testing the issues)* Wade, R.H. (Dec/2001). The Rising Inequality of World Income Distribution. *Finance and Development*, 38(4). Retrieved from http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2007/03/index.htm (An opposing view to Sala-I-Martin) Enjoy, Craig On 5/7/07, Chuck Searcy wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Thanks very much for this, but *please*, in the future, indicate the > source. *Wall St. Journal*? Deutsche Press? Altman's blog? The place > where an article appeared is sometimes a good indication of why a certain > tone or choice of terms is conveyed. Thanks again. > > Chuck Searcy > > *"Phan, Tai" * wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > Peeking under the surface of globalization > Intel's experience in Vietnam shows the web of connections behind the > global economy. > > By Daniel Altman > Published: May 4, 2007 > > Every day, newspapers and television broadcasts are full of numbers that > supposedly tell the public how the global economy is doing. Like the > markings on a thousand thermometers, the numbers go up and down: stock > market indexes, payroll data, interest rates, quarterly earnings, trade > deficits, you name it. The problem is, none of these numbers tells you how > the global economy actually works. > > But what if you could go behind the scenes - freeze the global economy for > a sliver of time, just long enough to get a really good look at it? Then > you'd have a pretty good idea of what was connected to what and who relied > on whom. You'd see how the global economy is like an enormous machine > crammed with six billion interlocking cogs and wheels - one for every person > inside. Unfreeze the action, and the cogs and wheels whirl away as the > world's workers spring back into action. > > Not everyone's wheel is the same size, but everyone's wheel matters. To > use another metaphor: Think of the proverbial butterfly that beats its wings > in the air over Australia and helps to cause a hurricane thousands of miles > away in the Gulf of Mexico. Like the earth's own atmosphere, the economy is > a closed system - everything's connected, and every individual's actions > instantly affect everyone else. > > Sometimes this fact is lost in the countless hours of commentary on > television and radio, to say nothing of the endless articles and books, > about a topic vaguely called globalization. Yet much of the resulting debate > amounts to "globalization good" or "globalization bad." And that kind of > name-calling doesn't do much to help you cope with the changing world. > > The only empirically obvious truth is that the forces often labeled > "globalization" - the integration of markets, the spread of ideas, the > formalization of the world trading system, and whatever else you care to > place under the umbrella - are here to stay. Wouldn't it be better - and > more interesting - to take a broad sampling of facts and judge for yourself? > > > A nighttime drive along Nguyen Van Troi Street - Ho Chi Minh City's > version of the Las Vegas strip - is a study in outrageous contrasts. The > graceful colonial villas that house official offices behind forbidding metal > fences have been swamped by trendy caf?(c)s, bars, restaurants, and shops open > until the wee hours. The patriotic banners hanging nearby, all in gold > letters on a red background, are barely legible in the blinding light of > thousands of tubes of neon. > > Is this really a Communist country? Not on your life. The entrepreneurial > tradition is just too deeply rooted. Dozens of private businesses dot the > sidewalks. New storefronts selling everything from silk bathrobes to spa > treatments are popping up all over Ho Chi Minh City. Likewise, the old Honda > Dream mopeds are quickly giving way to racy new Yamaha scooters. Entire > families still pile on, just like they used to, but they're not wearing > plain white shirts and dark trousers anymore - now it's tight jeans, > designer tops, and plenty of makeup. > > Vietnam didn't get this way all by itself. Foreign companies have had a > hand in the country's growing prosperity. Naturally, they didn't get > involved out of charity. They're trying to find cheaper places to make their > products, or new people who might buy them. > > It's a mission that has often led to controversy, with accusations raging > from substandard treatment of workers to wrecked indigenous cultures. But > arguments against companies reaching around the world to produce or sell are > being washed away, if not always answered, by the twin tides of trade and > investment. The more relevant question today is whether these multinational > relationships can be managed in a way that benefits both guests and hosts. > > Intel, the microchip maker, would respond with an emphatic yes. The > company has been operating in Vietnam since 1997, the year when several > countries in the region experienced financial crises that deterred many > other businesses from investing. In 2000, the United States opened trade > relations with Vietnam for the first time since the two countries stopped > fighting. And it was then that Intel sent Than Trong Phuc home. > > Phuc left Ho Chi Minh City on the last night it was called Saigon, in one > of the last helicopters to take off from the roof of the American Embassy. > Soon afterward, he was adjusting to life as a newly minted California > teenager. Today, three decades after he fled Vietnam, he is the living > embodiment of Intel's shrewd strategy for expansion into developing > countries > > It's a sweltering summer day outside, but Phuc and Le Quoc Anh, a > Vietnamese-American born in Virginia, are sitting at a conference table in > the cool comfort of Intel's air-conditioned offices. Phuc, a trim man with a > gray-flecked mustache who runs the operation, is flipping through a slide > presentation on his laptop while Anh, his jovial public relations manager, > takes notes. > > As each slide pops up on the projection screen, Phuc's steady gaze checks > with his audience to make sure his explanation has sunk in. One slide > elicits a special mention, though. "This is the Communist Party of Vietnam > Web site," Phuc says brightly as the projector shows an image taken from a > Web browser. "We made the headline!" And indeed, there on the screen is > Intel's name, in an announcement of the deal that is supposed to bring > Vietnam to the cutting edge of the digital era. "I thought the day would > never come," Anh adds. > > Phuc and Anh agree that if they brought this slide to their immigrant > friends in the United States, they would not believe it. But cooperation > with the government is the name of Intel's game in Vietnam. > > In a way, it has to be. Foreign companies' access to Vietnam is still > tightly controlled by the government, and the government has a profound > involvement in the lives of Vietnamese. "The government's role in Vietnamese > society is pervasive," Phuc says. "Their influence and their mind share is > everywhere." Rather than seeing this unusual situation as a handicap, > however, Intel has tried to exploit it. > > >From the moment Phuc arrived in Ho Chi Minh City, he set about > cultivating government officials. His initial step was to understand their > goals. The first, he says, is to increase the use of personal computers and > the Internet. The second is to make Vietnam an exporter of high-tech items, > and preferably those that don't require a lot of equipment to produce. > > > "In manufacturing on the hardware side, the capital cost is big," Phuc > explains, adding that Taiwan already has the upper hand in that market. > Instead, he says, "the government wants Vietnam to be an exporter of > information technology. All you need is a brain." With a million graduates > entering the work force every year, the need for these jobs couldn't be > plainer. > > Intel's goal is clear, too, and Phuc makes no bones about it: sell more > chips. But rather than simply hanging out a shingle and waiting for > customers to arrive, Phuc spends most of his time actively working to > develop the market. That means coming up with an endless stream of ideas for > putting people together with computers, since more demand for computers > implies more chips. > > And so it came to pass that Intel, with just a handful of people working > out of an office in Ho Chi Minh City, became the driving force for Vietnam's > entire computer industry. > > Phuc divided the market into three segments, separated by income. The high > end presented no challenges; they'd buy whatever computers they wanted. The > low end probably couldn't afford to buy any computers, so the question was > how to give them access to software and the Internet in a community setting. > That's when Phuc got to know Vu Duc Dam. > > Vu was vice chairman to the people's committee in Bac Ninh, an inland > farming province in the north. He had studied abroad and was interested in > promoting Vietnam's digital future. But what would Bac Ninh's poor farmers > do with computers? > > The answer, in part a product of Intel's constant brainstorming, is now on > show at 200 community centers across Bac Ninh. Each one houses five personal > computers and one printer. A local Web site created by the Agriculture > Ministry offers daily crop prices. In addition, online maps clearly show the > boundaries of land allotments, previously a frequent topic of disagreements. > The system can also be used to set up distribution routes. > > For farmers, it's a valuable resource. For Intel, it's 1,000 chips sold. > > Though farmers sharing computers is all well and good, Intel's prime > target was always the middle segment of the population, a group Phuc now > estimates at about three million households with income from $2,000 to > $6,000 annually. How could Intel encourage these people to stretch their > budgets and become new customers? > > Working with the government's Communist youth group, Intel developed a > program under the brand Thanh Giong, the name of a legendary Vietnamese hero > who magically overcame disability to beat back the enemy of his people. To > beat back the enemy of illiteracy (and thus unemployment), the program would > sell computers costing $265, $320 and $420. Intel acted as matchmaker > between suppliers in Taiwan and Vietnamese assemblers, whom it also helped > with testing, debugging and quality control. > > So far, the Thanh Giong systems have been selling at a rate of 3,000 a > month. "Intel doesn't do this for free," Phuc says. "We don't even take a > loss." though the program began in just a few provinces, now all 64 have > followed the Thanh Giong lead. "And of course," Phuc adds, "we helped > everyone." > > Phuc's approach, which he credits in part to the ideas of Intel's > chairman, Craig Bennett, has become a model for Intel divisions throughout > Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe. The government is planning another Thanh > Giong program to reach small businesses, which it hopes will triple in > number in the next five years. The "digital Vietnam" agreement that Intel's > chief executive, Paul Otellini, signed June 15 includes a stunning plan for > the future: computer labs in all schools, e-government programs in all > provinces, personal computers in all 900 hospitals and 260 universities, > rural Internet rollouts, and even wireless Internet covering entire cities. > > Intel has succeeded in Vietnam because its goal and the government's are > roughly the same: more Vietnamese using more computers. Essentially, Intel > gave the government a menu of options - all of which were good for Intel - > and followed up on the ones the government liked. The company has taken > advantage of cheap marketing and played up to local traditions. At worst, it > can be accused of encouraging people to spend their money on computers > instead of other things, perhaps including necessities. The situation could > hardly be better. > > Intel hasn't always been able to avoid controversy, however. Like other > companies, it has been blamed for being a badly behaved guest. For instance, > by building a large plant in Kiryat Gat, an Israeli town that belonged to > Palestinians before 1948, Intel became the target of boycotts from > pro-Palestinian groups. They accused the company of helping Israel to limit > Palestinian families' ability to regain their ancestral homes. There is no > shortage of other stories, especially involving American businesses. > > Things are changing, though. Ironically, the same corporations that > activists used to castigate for using sweatshops in poor countries may now > be the entities most responsible for spreading progressive labor practices. > For example, Gap Inc., which was once criticized for using exploitative > clothing suppliers on three continents, has more recently been praised for > coming clean about its violations of labor laws, pledging to reverse them, > and even solving a dispute between workers and local bosses in Cambodia. > > The company only changed its ways after years of sustained pressure from > activists and consumers. But the case proved that under their watchful eye, > multinational companies can bring progress as well as problems. When the > activists' voices and consumers' pocketbooks make visible examples out of > offenders, it's much less likely that others will test the limits of > acceptable behavior. > > >From "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" by Daniel Altman, > published this month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Copyright ?(c) 2007 by > Daniel Altman. 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/bc41ffe7/attachment-0001.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Mon May 7 20:45:03 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 23:45:03 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values Message-ID: Dear CACC, Sister Bich Lien's message about value a while ago prompts this message. There are different ways to grasp that elusive quality that we call "leadership," but probably the simplest and clearest way to to focus on is "value. We will approach the leadership from the value perspective today. As we know, a crucial element of leadership is "vision" (or goal), something to strive for, some distant destination for the journey. And that destination, that goal, that vision is best described in term of value--some value to strive for. Say, in the American war for Independence (against England), the values are national independence and personal freedom. In the "Reagan revolution" those values of national and individual freedom are re-affirmed. In the Communist revolution, the value was "absolute equality." In Jesus teachings, the value is "love." In the Buddha teachings, the value is "absolute stillness of the mind." In the anti-French war, the value was "national independence." So, if you run a company, which has the general goal of making money, what would be the values other than money making? The answer is your own choice. You have to determine what values you want you and your employees to achieve, such as 'Excellence in service" or "Clients are our best friends" or "Innovation in the market place" or "The best place to work." These organizational values are usually placed in the organization's "Mission Statement." Ex: "The ABC University aims to achieve equal education opportunity for all and to bring the best education to the poor and the underprivileged." Here we can see that the value in this mission statement is "Equal education opportunity, especially for poor and the underprivileged." So an organization (or a group) has a goal that consists of some value(s) to strive for. And the leader is the champion for that goal. She is the one that goes out to convince and encourage everyone to achieve the goal. But apart from those *organizational values*, there is another set of values in the person of the leader that makes her different from the non-leader. And here is where true leadership resides. Almost everyone can equally set out some organizational goal (i.e., some organizational values) to aim for, but not everyone has all the values of a great leader in him/her. But what are those "*personal values*" of a leader? I am not sure that there is a absolutely right answer. Each one of us probably comes up with some slightly different answer. But generally, I think we can use the five Confucian virtues: Nhan, Le, Nghia, Tri, Tin (love, respect, loyalty, wisdom, trustworthiness). These 5 virtues are valued in all cultures of the world. They are in the human heart every where. The better one can master these values, the higher leadership quality one has. Mastering these virtues is much easier talked than done. Say, do you think that president Bush and his administration honestly made a mistake on Iraq's weapon of mass destruction and nuclear capability (which mistake led to the Iraq invasion)? Or do you think that they "wanted" to make that mistake? The answer goes to the "honesty" and "trustworthiness" of the leader. You don't have to come out and lie blatantly (the way Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman); you only have to be dishonest enough in your heart to "want to make an honest mistake." Ed Meese, President Reagan's attorney general, said that during Reagan's first cabinet meeting (right after Reagan was elected president), Reagan said briefly, something like "Well, we've got our job to do. Just do what you think is right." So Reagan was telling his ministers to do what they feel is morally right in their heart, not what may please the press, or what may increase the approval rating in the polls, not what may increase the popularity of his presidency. He said "Do what is right." It means, "Do what is right, even if it hurts." Reagan was a champion of "the right thing," of the high values in the human heart. That is the mark of a great leader. In sum, a great leader is one who champions great human values, by mastering (or at least constantly trying to master) them in his own life and work, and by leading his people to a goal that further advances some great human values. Have a great day! Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070507/0ab451e1/attachment.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Mon May 7 21:45:50 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 00:45:50 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear brother Phong, Thanks for the note and the prayer. Yes, I understand the power of collective prayer. And I am grateful that many brothers and sisters are pouring in such collective strength. Thank you all. My mother is still in intensive care at the hospital. I imagine my family would welcome a visit, but if my mom could communicate with me now, I would think she would say, "Come on, I am in my worst shape and you want to introduce me to my friend?" So, in respect to her wishes (as guessed by me), I would think we would just leave her alone for now. A prayer would be wonderful for her. Two days ago, I insisted that the doctors keep her away from sedative as much as they can, because "she is trying to fight her battle, and you guys keep putting her down by giving sedative to her." The doctors agreed with my request and now use sedative at the minimum level, she looks much better today and appears to be more alert. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks brother Phong and everyone for your support and prayer. They are good for my mom and for my entire family. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/7/07, Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > Dear anh Hoanh, > I don't think I've met your Mom in person. > Is she at home or in the hospital now? > Would you and your family welcome a visit? > Never underestimate to power of prayers, especially collective prayers. > Sometimes, it's the only thing left to do. > I was personally reminded of this last week, when I fell off a ladder on > May 1st working around the house. > During the first ten minutes or so after the fall, when I was flat on my > back, in pain, couldn't move and not certain what shape I was in, I prayed. > I am happy to report that while the injuries will keep me from heavy > lifting for 6 weeks while the compression fractures in my L1 lumbar heals, > my sore muscles are recovering well and I am up and moving almost normally. > It could have been much worse. > It's been a wake up call that we are not getting any younger, nor more > flexible physically. > Best, HPP -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/2deb9324/attachment.html From phothu at yahoo.com Tue May 8 00:25:23 2007 From: phothu at yahoo.com (Pho Minh Thu) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 00:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Stroke signs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <930806.85444.qm@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Dear all, This is the first time I sent you a note since I joint VNBiz. Dear chu Hoanh, I am very sorry to hear about your mom's health status. I wish her full recovery and get back to your side. Also, I am very touched by your cares and prayer for chu' Hoanh's mom, who is hit by a stroke and now in hospital. My dad used to suffer three strokes, unfortunately, he could not fight against the fate in the last time. Well, personally I think CACE in VNBiz should pay more attention to your parents' daily activities in order to recognize any stroke signs and symptoms although stroke are limited to old people, nearly a third occur to people under 65 and some much younger. I forward you the letter sent by my friend, who is a MD in Atlanta, GA. Please spend a few mins of your busy life and have a skim through it. Best regards, PMT --------------------------------------------------------------- My parents had dinner this summer with a dear friend. During the BBQ their friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening. At 3:00am my mother received a call from Ingrid's husband telling her that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00pm, Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ - had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. (A note from me, her husband said when they arrived home about 11:00 P M that night that she told him she had enjoyed the evening and it was the best time she had in a long time>) vkr It only takes a minute to read this- Recognizing a Stroke ----- A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed and getting to the patient within 3 hours which is tough. RECOGNIZING A STROKE - A true story Susie is recouping at an incredible pace for someone with a massive stroke all because Sherry saw Susie stumble - - that is the key that isn't mentioned below -and then she asked Susie the 3 questions. So simple - - this literally saved Susie's life - - Some angel sent it to Suzie's friend and they did just what it said to do. Suzie failed all three so then 9-1-1 was called. Even though she had normal blood pressure readings and did not appear to be a stroke as she could converse to some extent with the Paramedics they took her to the hospital right away. Thank God for the sense to remember the "3" steps. Read and Learn! Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke. Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions: 1. *Ask the individual to SMILE. 2. *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS. 3. *Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently) (i.e. . . It is sunny out today) If he or she has trouble with any of these tasks, call 9-1-1 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher. After discovering that a group of non-medical volunteers could identify facial weakness, arm weakness and speech problems, researchers urged the general public to learn the three questions. They presented their conclusions at the American Stroke Association's annual meeting last February. Widespread use of this test could result in prompt diagnosis and treatment of the stroke and prevent brain damage. A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved. BE A FRIEND AND SHARE THIS ARTICLE WITH AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE, you could save their lives. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/25102db1/attachment.html From t.nguyen at unido.or.th Tue May 8 03:22:06 2007 From: t.nguyen at unido.or.th (Nguyen Khac Tiep) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:22:06 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Stroke signs In-Reply-To: <930806.85444.qm@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <930806.85444.qm@web54510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <025901c7915a$bbee4fb0$520a0ac8@UNIDOTH> Dear Pho Minh Thu, Thank you very much for your sincere suggestion to all of us. We pray for your dad's soul. Many, many thanks for the simple but extremely useful instruction on recognizing a stroke. God blesses all of us. Tiep Nguyen Khac Tiep, (Mr.) Industrial Development Officer UNIDO Regional Office in Bangkok for Cambodia, Lao PDR, Malaysia, Myanmar and Thailand E-mail 1: T.Nguyen at unido.or.th E-mail 2: T.Nguyen at unido.org Web: www.unido.org _____ From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of Pho Minh Thu Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:25 PM To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Stroke signs Dear all, This is the first time I sent you a note since I joint VNBiz. Dear chu Hoanh, I am very sorry to hear about your mom's health status. I wish her full recovery and get back to your side. Also, I am very touched by your cares and prayer for chu' Hoanh's mom, who is hit by a stroke and now in hospital. My dad used to suffer three strokes, unfortunately, he could not fight against the fate in the last time. Well, personally I think CACE in VNBiz should pay more attention to your parents' daily activities in order to recognize any stroke signs and symptoms although stroke are limited to old people, nearly a third occur to people under 65 and some much younger. I forward you the letter sent by my friend, who is a MD in Atlanta, GA. Please spend a few mins of your busy life and have a skim through it. Best regards, PMT --------------------------------------------------------------- My parents had dinner this summer with a dear friend. During the BBQ their friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up, Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening. At 3:00am my mother received a call from Ingrid's husband telling her that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00pm, Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ - had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke perhaps Ingrid would be with us today. (A note from me, her husband said when they arrived home about 11:00 P M that night that she told him she had enjoyed the evening and it was the best time she had in a long time>) vkr It only takes a minute to read this- Recognizing a Stroke ----- A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed and getting to the patient within 3 hours which is tough. RECOGNIZING A STROKE - A true story Susie is recouping at an incredible pace for someone with a massive stroke all because Sherry saw Susie stumble - - that is the key that isn't mentioned below -and then she asked Susie the 3 questions. So simple - - this literally saved Susie's life - - Some angel sent it to Suzie's friend and they did just what it said to do. Suzie failed all three so then 9-1-1 was called. Even though she had normal blood pressure readings and did not appear to be a stroke as she could converse to some extent with the Paramedics they took her to the hospital right away. Thank God for the sense to remember the "3" steps. Read and Learn! Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke. Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions: 1. *Ask the individual to SMILE. 2. *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS. 3. *Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently) (i.e. . . It is sunny out today) If he or she has trouble with any of these tasks, call 9-1-1 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher. After discovering that a group of non-medical volunteers could identify facial weakness, arm weakness and speech problems, researchers urged the general public to learn the three questions. They presented their conclusions at the American Stroke Association's annual meeting last February. Widespread use of this test could result in prompt diagnosis and treatment of the stroke and prevent brain damage. A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved. BE A FRIEND AND SHARE THIS ARTICLE WITH AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE, you could save their lives. _____ Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/f5e74de0/attachment.html From chucksearcy at yahoo.com Tue May 8 06:11:59 2007 From: chucksearcy at yahoo.com (Chuck Searcy) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] Peeking under the surface of globalization In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <46419.32523.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Craig, thanks very much. Your reply has a lot of good references. -- Chuck Craig Stevenson wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Chuck: I neither posted the article nor know where it was exactly sourced but I think it is excerpted from Altman's book. I assume the book to be called: "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" It is stated at the very end of the article: ">From "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" by Daniel Altman, published this month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Copyright ????amp;copy; 2007 by Daniel Altman. All rights reserved" For other books, articles, and interesting datasets on Globalization, see the following, which offer a more balanced perspective: Chua, A. (2004). World on Fire. New York: Anchor Books. (BOOK, G is leading to inequality and ethnic conflict.) Dreher, A. (2006). Does Globalization Affect Growth? Evidence from a New Index of Globalization. Applied Economics, 38(10), 1091-1110. Retrieved from http://globalization.kof.ethz.ch/. (a dataset that creates an index of globalization from social, economic and political factors) Firebaugh, G. (1999). Empirics of World Income Inequality. American Journal of Sociology, 104(6), 1597?1630. Retrieved from the EBSCO database. (Looks at different perspectives, and methodologies for testing whether Inequality is rising or declining) Firebraugh, J., & Goesling, B. (2004). Accounting for the Recent Decline in Global Income Inequality. American Journal of Sociology, 10(2), 283-312. Retrieved from the EBSCO database. (Finds Inequality to be converging, or falling, mostly due to growth in Asia among populous nations) Friedman, T. (2005). The World is Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-first Century. New York: Farrar, Straus and Giroux. (Champions G. for, as name implies, creating level playing ground and converging income equality.) Jones, C.I. (1997). On the Evolution of the World Income Distribution. The Journal of Economic Perspectives, 11(3), 19-36. Retrieved from the JSTOR database. (Looks at how measures of income distribution between and within nations are composed) Morgan, J. (Aug/1962). The Anatomy of Income Distribution. The Review of Economics and Statistics, 44(3), 270-283. Retrieved from the JSTOR database. (Same as above, but looking at older models) Sala-I-Martin, X. (2006). THE WORLD DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME: FALLING POVERTY AND CONVERGENCE, PERIOD. The Quarterly Journal of Economics, 71(2), 351-397. (Very comprehensive, champion of income convergence. Look at this one) Shorrocks, A.F. (Sep/1995). Revisiting the Sen Poverty Index. Econometrica, 63(5), 1225-1230. Retrieved from the ABI/Inform database. (Sen is the grand master of inequality and poverty literature. Interesting) Steger, M.B. (2003). Globalization: A Very Short Introduction. New York: Oxford University Press. (Good, general, brief, look at the phenomenon) Stiglitz, J.E. (2003). Globalization and its Discontents. New York: W.W. Norton & Company. (Written by the Nobel Prize Winning Economist. Interesting. Perspective as name implies) Summers, R. & Heston, A. (1991). THE PENN WORLD TABLE (MARK 5): AN EXPANDED SET OF INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS, 1950-1988. The Quarterly Journal of Economics, 106(2), 327-368. Retrieved from the JSTOR database. (Speaks to the primary database for GDP PPP measures for testing the issues) Wade, R.H. (Dec/2001). The Rising Inequality of World Income Distribution. Finance and Development, 38(4). Retrieved from http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2007/03/index.htm (An opposing view to Sala-I-Martin) Enjoy, Craig On 5/7/07, Chuck Searcy wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Thanks very much for this, but please, in the future, indicate the source. Wall St. Journal? Deutsche Press? Altman's blog? The place where an article appeared is sometimes a good indication of why a certain tone or choice of terms is conveyed. Thanks again. Chuck Searcy "Phan, Tai" wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Peeking under the surface of globalization Intel's experience in Vietnam shows the web of connections behind the global economy. By Daniel Altman Published: May 4, 2007 Every day, newspapers and television broadcasts are full of numbers that supposedly tell the public how the global economy is doing. Like the markings on a thousand thermometers, the numbers go up and down: stock market indexes, payroll data, interest rates, quarterly earnings, trade deficits, you name it. The problem is, none of these numbers tells you how the global economy actually works. But what if you could go behind the scenes - freeze the global economy for a sliver of time, just long enough to get a really good look at it? Then you'd have a pretty good idea of what was connected to what and who relied on whom. You'd see how the global economy is like an enormous machine crammed with six billion interlocking cogs and wheels - one for every person inside. Unfreeze the action, and the cogs and wheels whirl away as the world's workers spring back into action. Not everyone's wheel is the same size, but everyone's wheel matters. To use another metaphor: Think of the proverbial butterfly that beats its wings in the air over Australia and helps to cause a hurricane thousands of miles away in the Gulf of Mexico. Like the earth's own atmosphere, the economy is a closed system - everything's connected, and every individual's actions instantly affect everyone else. Sometimes this fact is lost in the countless hours of commentary on television and radio, to say nothing of the endless articles and books, about a topic vaguely called globalization. Yet much of the resulting debate amounts to "globalization good" or "globalization bad." And that kind of name-calling doesn't do much to help you cope with the changing world. The only empirically obvious truth is that the forces often labeled "globalization" - the integration of markets, the spread of ideas, the formalization of the world trading system, and whatever else you care to place under the umbrella - are here to stay. Wouldn't it be better - and more interesting - to take a broad sampling of facts and judge for yourself? A nighttime drive along Nguyen Van Troi Street - Ho Chi Minh City's version of the Las Vegas strip - is a study in outrageous contrasts. The graceful colonial villas that house official offices behind forbidding metal fences have been swamped by trendy caf????amp;copy;s, bars, restaurants, and shops open until the wee hours. The patriotic banners hanging nearby, all in gold letters on a red background, are barely legible in the blinding light of thousands of tubes of neon. Is this really a Communist country? Not on your life. The entrepreneurial tradition is just too deeply rooted. Dozens of private businesses dot the sidewalks. New storefronts selling everything from silk bathrobes to spa treatments are popping up all over Ho Chi Minh City. Likewise, the old Honda Dream mopeds are quickly giving way to racy new Yamaha scooters. Entire families still pile on, just like they used to, but they're not wearing plain white shirts and dark trousers anymore - now it's tight jeans, designer tops, and plenty of makeup. Vietnam didn't get this way all by itself. Foreign companies have had a hand in the country's growing prosperity. Naturally, they didn't get involved out of charity. They're trying to find cheaper places to make their products, or new people who might buy them. It's a mission that has often led to controversy, with accusations raging from substandard treatment of workers to wrecked indigenous cultures. But arguments against companies reaching around the world to produce or sell are being washed away, if not always answered, by the twin tides of trade and investment. The more relevant question today is whether these multinational relationships can be managed in a way that benefits both guests and hosts. Intel, the microchip maker, would respond with an emphatic yes. The company has been operating in Vietnam since 1997, the year when several countries in the region experienced financial crises that deterred many other businesses from investing. In 2000, the United States opened trade relations with Vietnam for the first time since the two countries stopped fighting. And it was then that Intel sent Than Trong Phuc home. Phuc left Ho Chi Minh City on the last night it was called Saigon, in one of the last helicopters to take off from the roof of the American Embassy. Soon afterward, he was adjusting to life as a newly minted California teenager. Today, three decades after he fled Vietnam, he is the living embodiment of Intel's shrewd strategy for expansion into developing countries It's a sweltering summer day outside, but Phuc and Le Quoc Anh, a Vietnamese-American born in Virginia, are sitting at a conference table in the cool comfort of Intel's air-conditioned offices. Phuc, a trim man with a gray-flecked mustache who runs the operation, is flipping through a slide presentation on his laptop while Anh, his jovial public relations manager, takes notes. As each slide pops up on the projection screen, Phuc's steady gaze checks with his audience to make sure his explanation has sunk in. One slide elicits a special mention, though. "This is the Communist Party of Vietnam Web site," Phuc says brightly as the projector shows an image taken from a Web browser. "We made the headline!" And indeed, there on the screen is Intel's name, in an announcement of the deal that is supposed to bring Vietnam to the cutting edge of the digital era. "I thought the day would never come," Anh adds. Phuc and Anh agree that if they brought this slide to their immigrant friends in the United States, they would not believe it. But cooperation with the government is the name of Intel's game in Vietnam. In a way, it has to be. Foreign companies' access to Vietnam is still tightly controlled by the government, and the government has a profound involvement in the lives of Vietnamese. "The government's role in Vietnamese society is pervasive," Phuc says. "Their influence and their mind share is everywhere." Rather than seeing this unusual situation as a handicap, however, Intel has tried to exploit it. >From the moment Phuc arrived in Ho Chi Minh City, he set about cultivating government officials. His initial step was to understand their goals. The first, he says, is to increase the use of personal computers and the Internet. The second is to make Vietnam an exporter of high-tech items, and preferably those that don't require a lot of equipment to produce. "In manufacturing on the hardware side, the capital cost is big," Phuc explains, adding that Taiwan already has the upper hand in that market. Instead, he says, "the government wants Vietnam to be an exporter of information technology. All you need is a brain." With a million graduates entering the work force every year, the need for these jobs couldn't be plainer. Intel's goal is clear, too, and Phuc makes no bones about it: sell more chips. But rather than simply hanging out a shingle and waiting for customers to arrive, Phuc spends most of his time actively working to develop the market. That means coming up with an endless stream of ideas for putting people together with computers, since more demand for computers implies more chips. And so it came to pass that Intel, with just a handful of people working out of an office in Ho Chi Minh City, became the driving force for Vietnam's entire computer industry. Phuc divided the market into three segments, separated by income. The high end presented no challenges; they'd buy whatever computers they wanted. The low end probably couldn't afford to buy any computers, so the question was how to give them access to software and the Internet in a community setting. That's when Phuc got to know Vu Duc Dam. Vu was vice chairman to the people's committee in Bac Ninh, an inland farming province in the north. He had studied abroad and was interested in promoting Vietnam's digital future. But what would Bac Ninh's poor farmers do with computers? The answer, in part a product of Intel's constant brainstorming, is now on show at 200 community centers across Bac Ninh. Each one houses five personal computers and one printer. A local Web site created by the Agriculture Ministry offers daily crop prices. In addition, online maps clearly show the boundaries of land allotments, previously a frequent topic of disagreements. The system can also be used to set up distribution routes. For farmers, it's a valuable resource. For Intel, it's 1,000 chips sold. Though farmers sharing computers is all well and good, Intel's prime target was always the middle segment of the population, a group Phuc now estimates at about three million households with income from $2,000 to $6,000 annually. How could Intel encourage these people to stretch their budgets and become new customers? Working with the government's Communist youth group, Intel developed a program under the brand Thanh Giong, the name of a legendary Vietnamese hero who magically overcame disability to beat back the enemy of his people. To beat back the enemy of illiteracy (and thus unemployment), the program would sell computers costing $265, $320 and $420. Intel acted as matchmaker between suppliers in Taiwan and Vietnamese assemblers, whom it also helped with testing, debugging and quality control. So far, the Thanh Giong systems have been selling at a rate of 3,000 a month. "Intel doesn't do this for free," Phuc says. "We don't even take a loss." though the program began in just a few provinces, now all 64 have followed the Thanh Giong lead. "And of course," Phuc adds, "we helped everyone." Phuc's approach, which he credits in part to the ideas of Intel's chairman, Craig Bennett, has become a model for Intel divisions throughout Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe. The government is planning another Thanh Giong program to reach small businesses, which it hopes will triple in number in the next five years. The "digital Vietnam" agreement that Intel's chief executive, Paul Otellini, signed June 15 includes a stunning plan for the future: computer labs in all schools, e-government programs in all provinces, personal computers in all 900 hospitals and 260 universities, rural Internet rollouts, and even wireless Internet covering entire cities. Intel has succeeded in Vietnam because its goal and the government's are roughly the same: more Vietnamese using more computers. Essentially, Intel gave the government a menu of options - all of which were good for Intel - and followed up on the ones the government liked. The company has taken advantage of cheap marketing and played up to local traditions. At worst, it can be accused of encouraging people to spend their money on computers instead of other things, perhaps including necessities. The situation could hardly be better. Intel hasn't always been able to avoid controversy, however. Like other companies, it has been blamed for being a badly behaved guest. For instance, by building a large plant in Kiryat Gat, an Israeli town that belonged to Palestinians before 1948, Intel became the target of boycotts from pro-Palestinian groups. They accused the company of helping Israel to limit Palestinian families' ability to regain their ancestral homes. There is no shortage of other stories, especially involving American businesses. Things are changing, though. Ironically, the same corporations that activists used to castigate for using sweatshops in poor countries may now be the entities most responsible for spreading progressive labor practices. For example, Gap Inc., which was once criticized for using exploitative clothing suppliers on three continents, has more recently been praised for coming clean about its violations of labor laws, pledging to reverse them, and even solving a dispute between workers and local bosses in Cambodia. The company only changed its ways after years of sustained pressure from activists and consumers. But the case proved that under their watchful eye, multinational companies can bring progress as well as problems. When the activists' voices and consumers' pocketbooks make visible examples out of offenders, it's much less likely that others will test the limits of acceptable behavior. >From "Connected: 24 Hours in the Global Economy" by Daniel Altman, published this month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/876d6743/attachment-0001.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Tue May 8 07:33:15 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:33:15 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] 14-year-old hero Message-ID: Dear CACC, This little 14-year-old boy, disregarding danger, jumped into the sea to save lives in the recent boat accident in Hai Van Pass, Da Nang. True hero. People like this bring out the best in us humans. Sorry it is only in Vietnamese. Have a great day! Hoanh _________ VNEXpress Th? s?u, 4/5/2007, 16:52 GMT+7 C?u b? 14 tu?i c?u s?ng 11 ng??i tr?n bi?n N??c da ?en nh?m, d?ng ng??i nh? th? l? ?n t??ng ??u ti?n v? c?u b? Tr?n V?n Truy?n, ng??i tr?c ti?p c?u s?ng 11 n?n nh?n v? tham gia v?t 8 thi th? trong v? ??m thuy?n ? v?ng bi?n b?i H?m, d??i ch?n ??o H?i V?n, th?nh ph? ?? N?ng. > 8 ng??i ch?t trong v? l?t thuy?n ? ?? N?ng V? tai n?n x?y ra tr?a 29/4, t?i v?ng bi?n thu?c ph??ng H?a Hi?p B?c, qu?n Li?n Chi?u, th?nh ph? ?? N?ng. M?t nh?m g?m 24 ng??i, ph?n l?n tr? qu?n H?i Ch?u, c?ng thu? t?u c? c?ng su?t nh?, kh?ng bi?n ki?m so?t ?i du l?ch ra l?ng V?n v? ??o Ng?c. T?u g?p s?ng to, gi? l?n ?? va v?o ?? v? ch?m. 8 ng??i ?? thi?t m?ng, 15 ng??i kh?c b? th??ng n?ng. Th?m ho? s? nghi?m tr?ng h?n n?u kh?ng c? s? hi?n di?n c?a cha con ?ng Tr?n V?n M?n v? Tr?n V?n Truy?n ?ang l?m r?y g?n ??. C?u b? Truy?n 14 tu?i, ng?i c?u c? tr?n g?nh ?? b?i H?m ?? v? t?nh ph?t hi?n thuy?n ch? ng??i b? ??m. Em nhanh tr? ch?y l?n r?y b?o v?i cha v? tri h? ?? t?m th?m ng??i ?i c?u n?n. N?u kh?ng c? s? xu?t hi?n c?a cha con Truy?n, s? n?n nh?n s? gia t?ng. ?nh: *Tr? Bang* Loay hoay r?i ?ng M?n c?ng ngh? ra c?ch th?o h? th?ng ?ng nh?a d?ng t??i hoa m?u tr?n r?y ?? qu?ng ra bi?n cho n?n nh?n b?m v?o. Nh?ng g?nh ?? b?i H?m tr?n nh?n, s?ng l?i ??nh li?n h?i n?n d?y qu?ng nhi?u l?n m? n?n nh?n kh?ng b?t ???c. Ch?ng ng?n ng?i, Truy?n ?? lao ra bi?n d? ?? mang m?t ??u d?y ra cho n?n nh?n. M?t c?n b? UBND ph??ng Ho? Hi?p Nam cho bi?t, b?i H?m, n?i x?y ra v? tai n?n ??m thuy?n, l? m?t trong nh?ng b?i nguy hi?m. S?t m?t n??c l? ??y v?c, n??c s?u th?m v? s?ng th?t th??ng n?n m?i c? t?n l? b?i H?m. "N?i n?y kh?ng c? ai d?m b?i. Th? nh?ng th?y c?nh ng??i ngoi ng?p ch? ch?t, ch?u Truy?n ?? qu?n hi?m nguy m? lao ra tr?n ??u s?ng d? ?? c?u ng??i. H?nh ??ng ?? ngay c? ng??i d?n ch?i, l?n tu?i nh? ch?ng t?i c?ng kh? c? ???c", c?n b? n?y n?i. H?m nh?n gi?y khen t?i bu?i tuy?n d??ng c?a UBND qu?n Li?n Chi?u, c? Truy?n v? cha kh?ng n?i ???c l?i n?o. H?nh ??ng anh h?ng ?y c?a h? b?c ph?t t? tr?i tim nh?n h?u, t? tr?ch nhi?m c?a con ng??i m? ngay ch?nh Truy?n, b?y gi? ngh? l?i c?ng kh?ng hi?u v? sao m?nh ??... li?u nh? v?y? Truy?n n?i: "Ch?u th?y ng??i s?p ch?t nhi?u qu? n?n lao ra c?u h? th?i ch? c? ngh? chi m?". Ri?ng ?ng D??ng Th?nh Th?, Ch? t?ch UBND qu?n Li?n Chi?u th? kh?ng c?m ???c n??c m?t. ?ng n?i: "? c?i tu?i 14, c?c ch?u ???c cha m? ch?m b?m, ch? bi?t ?n h?c th?i. Ri?ng Truy?n ph?i m?t bu?i theo cha ra r?y ph? gi?p chuy?n nh? n?ng. Ng?y l? l?t, ng??i ta d?t d?u nhau ?i tham quan, c?n ch?u v?n ph?i ra r?y... Ch?ng t?i kh?ng ch? c?m k?ch h?nh ??ng d?ng c?m, x?ng ??ng phong t?ng anh h?ng c?a ch?u Truy?n m? c?n r?t c?m ??ng v? gia c?nh b?n h?n nh? ch?u". Truy?n gi?p m? l?y c?i. ?nh: *Tr? Bang* N?m 2000, gia ??nh ch?u Truy?n b? thu h?i ??t v? thu?c d? ?n x?y d?ng h?m ???ng b? H?i V?n. Kh?ng c?n ru?ng, m? ph?i ?i l?m thu? ch?y t?ng b?a c?m, cha Truy?n ph?i l?n m? ra t?n m?i l?ng V?n khai hoang, l?m r?y. Ch? g?i ??u b? h?c d? dang ? l?p 9. C?n Truy?n l?m l?i cu?c b? ?i h?c ???ng xa, m?t bu?i men theo ???ng t?u ra ph? cha l?m r?y. Ra l?ng V?n kh?ng c? ???ng b?, ho?c ?i thuy?n, ho?c ph?i l? b? tr?n ???ng tho?t tr?n ???ng ray t?u l?a, Truy?n ?en nh?m, nh? th? nh? con s?c. V? ?t nh?t ?? 2 l?n c?u b? ?? tham gia c?u ng??i b? n?n tr?n ???ng t?u. N?m 2005, tr?n ???ng ra r?y, cha con Truy?n ph?t hi?n m?t n?n nh?n b? t?u c?n. Truy?n ?i nh?t t?ng ph?n thi th? c?a n?n nh?n ?? r?i 2 cha con kh?n g?i ??a ra t?n Ph? B?i, Th?a Thi?n - Hu? cho gia ??nh h?. N?m 2006, c?ng tr?n ???ng s?t ?i ra r?y, cha con Truy?n ?? ph?t hi?n 2 m? con (ng??i d?n l?ng V?n) b? t?u c?n v?ng v?o b?a r?ng. Truy?n ?m ch?u b? b? b?t m?u, chui qua h?m s? 1, ch?y ng??c v? tr?m y t?. Ch?u b? ?? ???c c?p c?u k?p th?i. Hi?n Tr?n V?n Truy?n ???c UBND qu?n Li?n Chi?u ?? ngh? H?i ??ng thi ?ua khen th??ng th?nh ph? khen th??ng c?p th?nh ph?, n?u g??ng anh h?ng trong c?c tr??ng h?c ph? th?ng... C?n Truy?n th? v?n l?m l?i m?t bu?i ??n tr??ng, m?t bu?i men theo ???ng t?u ra r?y gi?p cha. *Tr? Bang* -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/f4b7769f/attachment.html From Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov Tue May 8 07:45:18 2007 From: Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov (Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:45:18 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh, I understand and respect your reasoning. Let's hope and pray the day we can visit your mother when she is in much better shape is not far away. Best, HPP "Tran Dinh Hoanh" Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 05/08/2007 12:45 AM Please respond to vnbiz at vietlinks.net To vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc Subject Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear brother Phong, Thanks for the note and the prayer. Yes, I understand the power of collective prayer. And I am grateful that many brothers and sisters are pouring in such collective strength. Thank you all. My mother is still in intensive care at the hospital. I imagine my family would welcome a visit, but if my mom could communicate with me now, I would think she would say, "Come on, I am in my worst shape and you want to introduce me to my friend?" So, in respect to her wishes (as guessed by me), I would think we would just leave her alone for now. A prayer would be wonderful for her. Two days ago, I insisted that the doctors keep her away from sedative as much as they can, because "she is trying to fight her battle, and you guys keep putting her down by giving sedative to her." The doctors agreed with my request and now use sedative at the minimum level, she looks much better today and appears to be more alert. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks brother Phong and everyone for your support and prayer. They are good for my mom and for my entire family. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/7/07, Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear anh Hoanh, I don't think I've met your Mom in person. Is she at home or in the hospital now? Would you and your family welcome a visit? Never underestimate to power of prayers, especially collective prayers. Sometimes, it's the only thing left to do. I was personally reminded of this last week, when I fell off a ladder on May 1st working around the house. During the first ten minutes or so after the fall, when I was flat on my back, in pain, couldn't move and not certain what shape I was in, I prayed. I am happy to report that while the injuries will keep me from heavy lifting for 6 weeks while the compression fractures in my L1 lumbar heals, my sore muscles are recovering well and I am up and moving almost normally. It could have been much worse. It's been a wake up call that we are not getting any younger, nor more flexible physically. 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Name: cover letter.doc Type: application/msword Size: 23040 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/29228cc5/attachment-0003.doc From thquangvn at gmail.com Tue May 8 10:04:43 2007 From: thquangvn at gmail.com (Quang Tran Hai) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 00:04:43 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] 14-year-old hero In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear CACC, I was very sad to hear about the news of the acccident, so many losts of lives becauses of a careless ship owner. But at the same time, my heart felt warm learning about the brave boy. He brings so much hope and trust. I wish Truyen will have chance to grow and study, such a great heart and mind should be nourished with great love and careness. Bests. Quang On 08/05/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC, > > This little 14-year-old boy, disregarding danger, jumped into the sea to > save lives in the recent boat accident in Hai Van Pass, Da Nang. True > hero. People like this bring out the best in us humans. > > Sorry it is only in Vietnamese. Have a great day! > > Hoanh > _________ > > > > VNEXpress > Th? s?u, 4/5/2007, 16:52 GMT+7 > > C?u b? 14 tu?i c?u s?ng 11 ng??i tr?n bi?n > > N??c da ?en nh?m, d?ng ng??i nh? th? l? ?n t??ng ??u ti?n v? c?u b? Tr?n > V?n Truy?n, ng??i tr?c ti?p c?u s?ng 11 n?n nh?n v? tham gia v?t 8 thi th? > trong v? ??m thuy?n ? v?ng bi?n b?i H?m, d??i ch?n ??o H?i V?n, th?nh ph? ?? > N?ng. > > 8 ng??i ch?t trong v? l?t thuy?n ? ?? N?ng > > V? tai n?n x?y ra tr?a 29/4, t?i v?ng bi?n thu?c ph??ng H?a Hi?p B?c, qu?n > Li?n Chi?u, th?nh ph? ?? N?ng. M?t nh?m g?m 24 ng??i, ph?n l?n tr? qu?n H?i > Ch?u, c?ng thu? t?u c? c?ng su?t nh?, kh?ng bi?n ki?m so?t ?i du l?ch ra > l?ng V?n v? ??o Ng?c. T?u g?p s?ng to, gi? l?n ?? va v?o ?? v? ch?m. 8 ng??i > ?? thi?t m?ng, 15 ng??i kh?c b? th??ng n?ng. > > Th?m ho? s? nghi?m tr?ng h?n n?u kh?ng c? s? hi?n di?n c?a cha con ?ng > Tr?n V?n M?n v? Tr?n V?n Truy?n ?ang l?m r?y g?n ??. C?u b? Truy?n 14 tu?i, > ng?i c?u c? tr?n g?nh ?? b?i H?m ?? v? t?nh ph?t hi?n thuy?n ch? ng??i b? > ??m. Em nhanh tr? ch?y l?n r?y b?o v?i cha v? tri h? ?? t?m th?m ng??i ?i > c?u n?n. > N?u kh?ng c? s? xu?t hi?n c?a cha con Truy?n, s? n?n nh?n s? gia t?ng. > ?nh: *Tr? Bang* > > Loay hoay r?i ?ng M?n c?ng ngh? ra c?ch th?o h? th?ng ?ng nh?a d?ng t??i > hoa m?u tr?n r?y ?? qu?ng ra bi?n cho n?n nh?n b?m v?o. Nh?ng g?nh ?? b?i > H?m tr?n nh?n, s?ng l?i ??nh li?n h?i n?n d?y qu?ng nhi?u l?n m? n?n nh?n > kh?ng b?t ???c. Ch?ng ng?n ng?i, Truy?n ?? lao ra bi?n d? ?? mang m?t ??u > d?y ra cho n?n nh?n. > > M?t c?n b? UBND ph??ng Ho? Hi?p Nam cho bi?t, b?i H?m, n?i x?y ra v? tai > n?n ??m thuy?n, l? m?t trong nh?ng b?i nguy hi?m. S?t m?t n??c l? ??y v?c, > n??c s?u th?m v? s?ng th?t th??ng n?n m?i c? t?n l? b?i H?m. "N?i n?y kh?ng > c? ai d?m b?i. Th? nh?ng th?y c?nh ng??i ngoi ng?p ch? ch?t, ch?u Truy?n ?? > qu?n hi?m nguy m? lao ra tr?n ??u s?ng d? ?? c?u ng??i. H?nh ??ng ?? ngay c? > ng??i d?n ch?i, l?n tu?i nh? ch?ng t?i c?ng kh? c? ???c", c?n b? n?y n?i. > > H?m nh?n gi?y khen t?i bu?i tuy?n d??ng c?a UBND qu?n Li?n Chi?u, c? > Truy?n v? cha kh?ng n?i ???c l?i n?o. H?nh ??ng anh h?ng ?y c?a h? b?c ph?t > t? tr?i tim nh?n h?u, t? tr?ch nhi?m c?a con ng??i m? ngay ch?nh Truy?n, b?y > gi? ngh? l?i c?ng kh?ng hi?u v? sao m?nh ??... li?u nh? v?y? Truy?n n?i: > "Ch?u th?y ng??i s?p ch?t nhi?u qu? n?n lao ra c?u h? th?i ch? c? ngh? chi > m?". > > Ri?ng ?ng D??ng Th?nh Th?, Ch? t?ch UBND qu?n Li?n Chi?u th? kh?ng c?m > ???c n??c m?t. ?ng n?i: "? c?i tu?i 14, c?c ch?u ???c cha m? ch?m b?m, ch? > bi?t ?n h?c th?i. Ri?ng Truy?n ph?i m?t bu?i theo cha ra r?y ph? gi?p chuy?n > nh? n?ng. Ng?y l? l?t, ng??i ta d?t d?u nhau ?i tham quan, c?n ch?u v?n ph?i > ra r?y... Ch?ng t?i kh?ng ch? c?m k?ch h?nh ??ng d?ng c?m, x?ng ??ng phong > t?ng anh h?ng c?a ch?u Truy?n m? c?n r?t c?m ??ng v? gia c?nh b?n h?n nh? > ch?u". > Truy?n gi?p m? l?y c?i. ?nh: *Tr? Bang* > > N?m 2000, gia ??nh ch?u Truy?n b? thu h?i ??t v? thu?c d? ?n x?y d?ng h?m > ???ng b? H?i V?n. Kh?ng c?n ru?ng, m? ph?i ?i l?m thu? ch?y t?ng b?a c?m, > cha Truy?n ph?i l?n m? ra t?n m?i l?ng V?n khai hoang, l?m r?y. Ch? g?i ??u > b? h?c d? dang ? l?p 9. C?n Truy?n l?m l?i cu?c b? ?i h?c ???ng xa, m?t bu?i > men theo ???ng t?u ra ph? cha l?m r?y. > > Ra l?ng V?n kh?ng c? ???ng b?, ho?c ?i thuy?n, ho?c ph?i l? b? tr?n ???ng > tho?t tr?n ???ng ray t?u l?a, Truy?n ?en nh?m, nh? th? nh? con s?c. V? ?t > nh?t ?? 2 l?n c?u b? ?? tham gia c?u ng??i b? n?n tr?n ???ng t?u. > > N?m 2005, tr?n ???ng ra r?y, cha con Truy?n ph?t hi?n m?t n?n nh?n b? t?u > c?n. Truy?n ?i nh?t t?ng ph?n thi th? c?a n?n nh?n ?? r?i 2 cha con kh?n g?i > ??a ra t?n Ph? B?i, Th?a Thi?n - Hu? cho gia ??nh h?. N?m 2006, c?ng tr?n > ???ng s?t ?i ra r?y, cha con Truy?n ?? ph?t hi?n 2 m? con (ng??i d?n l?ng > V?n) b? t?u c?n v?ng v?o b?a r?ng. Truy?n ?m ch?u b? b? b?t m?u, chui qua > h?m s? 1, ch?y ng??c v? tr?m y t?. Ch?u b? ?? ???c c?p c?u k?p th?i. > > Hi?n Tr?n V?n Truy?n ???c UBND qu?n Li?n Chi?u ?? ngh? H?i ??ng thi ?ua > khen th??ng th?nh ph? khen th??ng c?p th?nh ph?, n?u g??ng anh h?ng trong > c?c tr??ng h?c ph? th?ng... C?n Truy?n th? v?n l?m l?i m?t bu?i ??n tr??ng, > m?t bu?i men theo ???ng t?u ra r?y gi?p cha. > > *Tr? Bang* > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- ________________________________________ Cell: +84 913 008 903 Yahoo ID: thquangvn MSN ID: thquangvn Skype_ID: thquang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: "Quang Tran Hai" Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] 14-year-old hero Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:16:38 +0000 Size: 22928 Url: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070508/85a9c73a/attachment.mht From shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Tue May 8 11:32:44 2007 From: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com (Shane Wall) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 01:32:44 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] What is a "Hero/Heroine"? - was "14-year-old hero" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4640C24C.3020901@translingualexpress.com> Dear CACC - or CACE (if you prefer), I am moved by the plight of anh Hoanh's current situation to ask this question: Who is a Hero / Heroine? There is no doubt that young Truyen is brave - maybe braver than most of the rest of us. The results of his actions certainly show us how brave Truyen is, but does that make him a "Hero"? I know many of my beloved CACC will disagree with me, but I believe the true Heros/Heroines of the world are the people like anh Hoanh's ailing Mom. The people who scrimp and scratch and save every day for years on end in order to try to give their children a better life than their own. If you agree with this thought, then anh Hoanh's Mom is a "Champion of Heroines". I will never belittle em Truyen's bravery, but his efforts are an isolated event - all people can be brave in an isolated instance or circumstance. Military people will understand. Few people can be so brave over many, many years and with so many difficulties to overcome. Anh Hoanh, to me, YOUR MOM is the true representation of a Heroine: she nurtured and guided all of her children through difficulties most of us "youngsters" cannot imagine. I truly believe that success in life is built on the foundations of a mother's knee. Chi Phuong, please be your own Heroine for anh Hoanh and his family. If there is only one thing I have learned from Vietnam, it is that Vietnamese women are the strongest people on earth. May the Buddha, God, Allah, Shiva and all the world's God's bid anh Hoanh's Mom a full recovery. Shane ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Shane Wall Principal, Trans Lingual Express 120/14 Mai Thi Luu St, P. Dakao, Q.1, HCMC, Vietnam Mail: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Web: www.translingualexpress.com Mbl: +84 (090) 9484 753 - Tel: +84 (8) 820 9143 Quang Tran Hai wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Dear CACC, > > I was very sad to hear about the news of the acccident, so many losts > of lives becauses of a careless ship owner. But at the same time, my > heart felt warm learning about the brave boy. > > He brings so much hope and trust. I wish Truyen will have chance to > grow and study, such a great heart and mind should be nourished with > great love and careness. > > Bests. > > Quang > > > On 08/05/07, *Tran Dinh Hoanh* > wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC, > > This little 14-year-old boy, disregarding danger, jumped into the > sea to save lives in the recent boat accident in Hai Van Pass, Da > Nang. True hero. People like this bring out the best in us humans. > > Sorry it is only in Vietnamese. Have a great day! > > Hoanh > _________ > > > > VNEXpress > Th??? s??u, 4/5/2007, 16:52 GMT+7 > > > > C???u b?? 14 tu???i c???u s???ng 11 ng?????i tr??n bi???n > > N?????c da ??en nh???m, d??ng ng?????i nh??? th?? l?? ???n t?????ng ?????u ti??n v??? c???u > b?? Tr???n V??n Truy???n, ng?????i tr???c ti???p c???u s???ng 11 n???n nh??n v?? tham > gia v???t 8 thi th??? trong v??? ?????m thuy???n ??? v??ng bi???n b??i H???m, d?????i > ch??n ????o H???i V??n, th??nh ph??? ???? N???ng. > > 8 ng?????i ch???t trong v??? l???t thuy???n ??? ???? N???ng > > > V??? tai n???n x???y ra tr??a 29/4, t???i v??ng bi???n thu???c ph?????ng H??a Hi???p > B???c, qu???n Li??n Chi???u, th??nh ph??? ???? N???ng. M???t nh??m g???m 24 ng?????i, > ph???n l???n tr?? qu???n H???i Ch??u, c??ng thu?? t??u c?? c??ng su???t nh???, kh??ng > bi???n ki???m so??t ??i du l???ch ra l??ng V??n v?? ?????o Ng???c. T??u g???p s??ng > to, gi?? l???n ???? va v??o ???? v?? ch??m. 8 ng?????i ???? thi???t m???ng, 15 ng?????i > kh??c b??? th????ng n???ng. > > Th???m ho??? s??? nghi??m tr???ng h??n n???u kh??ng c?? s??? hi???n di???n c???a cha con > ??ng Tr???n V??n M???n v?? Tr???n V??n Truy???n ??ang l??m r???y g???n ????. C???u b?? > Truy???n 14 tu???i, ng???i c??u c?? tr??n g??nh ???? b??i H???m ???? v?? t??nh ph??t > hi???n thuy???n ch??? ng?????i b??? ?????m. Em nhanh tr?? ch???y l??n r???y b??o v???i > cha v?? tri h?? ????? t??m th??m ng?????i ??i c???u n???n. > > N???u kh??ng c?? s??? xu???t hi???n c???a cha con Truy???n, s??? n???n nh??n s??? gia > t??ng. ???nh: /Tr?? Bang/ > > Loay hoay r???i ??ng M???n c??ng ngh?? ra c??ch th??o h??? th???ng ???ng nh???a > d??ng t?????i hoa m??u tr??n r???y ????? qu??ng ra bi???n cho n???n nh??n b??m v??o. > Nh??ng g??nh ???? b??i H???m tr??n nh???n, s??ng l???i ????nh li??n h???i n??n d??y > qu??ng nhi???u l???n m?? n???n nh??n kh??ng b???t ???????c. Ch???ng ng???n ng???i, > Truy???n ???? lao ra bi???n d??? ????? mang m???t ?????u d??y ra cho n???n nh??n. > > M???t c??n b??? UBND ph?????ng Ho?? Hi???p Nam cho bi???t, b??i H???m, n??i x???y ra > v??? tai n???n ?????m thuy???n, l?? m???t trong nh???ng b??i nguy hi???m. S??t m??t > n?????c l?? ????y v???c, n?????c s??u th???m v?? s??ng th???t th?????ng n??n m???i c?? t??n > l?? b??i H???m. "N??i n??y kh??ng c?? ai d??m b??i. Th??? nh??ng th???y c???nh > ng?????i ngoi ng??p ch??? ch???t, ch??u Truy???n ???? qu??n hi???m nguy m?? lao ra > tr??n ?????u s??ng d??? ????? c???u ng?????i. H??nh ?????ng ???? ngay c??? ng?????i d??n > ch??i, l???n tu???i nh?? ch??ng t??i c??ng kh?? c?? ???????c", c??n b??? n??y n??i. > > H??m nh???n gi???y khen t???i bu???i tuy??n d????ng c???a UBND qu???n Li??n Chi???u, > c??? Truy???n v?? cha kh??ng n??i ???????c l???i n??o. H??nh ?????ng anh h??ng ???y c???a > h??? b???c ph??t t??? tr??i tim nh??n h???u, t??? tr??ch nhi???m c???a con ng?????i m?? > ngay ch??nh Truy???n, b??y gi??? ngh?? l???i c??ng kh??ng hi???u v?? sao m??nh > ????... li???u nh?? v???y? Truy???n n??i: "Ch??u th???y ng?????i s???p ch???t nhi???u > qu?? n??n lao ra c???u h??? th??i ch??? c?? ngh?? chi m??". > > Ri??ng ??ng D????ng Th??nh Th???, Ch??? t???ch UBND qu???n Li??n Chi???u th?? kh??ng > c???m ???????c n?????c m???t. ??ng n??i: "??? c??i tu???i 14, c??c ch??u ???????c cha m??? > ch??m b???m, ch??? bi???t ??n h???c th??i. Ri??ng Truy???n ph???i m???t bu???i theo > cha ra r???y ph??? gi??p chuy???n nh?? n??ng. Ng??y l?? l???t, ng?????i ta d???t d??u > nhau ??i tham quan, c??n ch??u v???n ph???i ra r???y... Ch??ng t??i kh??ng ch??? > c???m k??ch h??nh ?????ng d??ng c???m, x???ng ????ng phong t???ng anh h??ng c???a > ch??u Truy???n m?? c??n r???t c???m ?????ng v?? gia c???nh b???n h??n nh?? ch??u". > > Truy???n gi??p m??? l???y c???i. ???nh: /Tr?? Bang/ > > N??m 2000, gia ????nh ch??u Truy???n b??? thu h???i ?????t v?? thu???c d??? ??n x??y > d???ng h???m ???????ng b??? H???i V??n. Kh??ng c??n ru???ng, m??? ph???i ??i l??m thu?? > ch???y t???ng b???a c??m, cha Truy???n ph???i l???n m?? ra t???n m??i l??ng V??n khai > hoang, l??m r???y. Ch??? g??i ?????u b??? h???c d??? dang ??? l???p 9. C??n Truy???n l???m > l??i cu???c b??? ??i h???c ???????ng xa, m???t bu???i men theo ???????ng t??u ra ph??? > cha l??m r???y. > > Ra l??ng V??n kh??ng c?? ???????ng b???, ho???c ??i thuy???n, ho???c ph???i l?? b??? > tr??n ???????ng tho???t tr??n ???????ng ray t??u l???a, Truy???n ??en nh???m, nh??? th?? > nh?? con s??c. V?? ??t nh???t ???? 2 l???n c???u b?? ???? tham gia c???u ng?????i b??? > n???n tr??n ???????ng t??u. > > N??m 2005, tr??n ???????ng ra r???y, cha con Truy???n ph??t hi???n m???t n???n nh??n > b??? t??u c??n. Truy???n ??i nh???t t???ng ph???n thi th??? c???a n???n nh??n ????? r???i 2 > cha con kh??n g??i ????a ra t???n Ph?? B??i, Th???a Thi??n - Hu??? cho gia ????nh > h???. N??m 2006, c??ng tr??n ???????ng s???t ??i ra r???y, cha con Truy???n ???? > ph??t hi???n 2 m??? con (ng?????i d??n l??ng V??n) b??? t??u c??n v??ng v??o b??a > r???ng. Truy???n ??m ch??u b?? b?? b???t m??u, chui qua h???m s??? 1, ch???y ng?????c > v??? tr???m y t???. Ch??u b?? ???? ???????c c???p c???u k???p th???i. > > Hi???n Tr???n V??n Truy???n ???????c UBND qu???n Li??n Chi???u ????? ngh??? H???i ?????ng > thi ??ua khen th?????ng th??nh ph??? khen th?????ng c???p th??nh ph???, n??u g????ng > anh h??ng trong c??c tr?????ng h???c ph??? th??ng... C??n Truy???n th?? v???n l???m > l??i m???t bu???i ?????n tr?????ng, m???t bu???i men theo ???????ng t??u ra r???y gi??p cha. > > *Tr?? 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I have always marvelled at the strength of the Vietnamese women. Most Vietnamese women were not with the husband much at all. They single-handedly raised the children. They buried their husbands, who died in battle. They raised their children, saw their boys off to war, then buried them soon later. And they kept going strong to raise the rest of the children, without complaining, without requesting compensation, without every claiming to be heroine. It is truly amazing, that we "youngsters" couldn't not fathom. Today, we no longer have war, but the Vietnamese women still are, as always has been, the pillar of their family. Our tradition is such that all responsibility of the family falls on the mother's shoulders. In Vietnamese, we say "Thie^n chu+'c la`m me." (Heaven-given position of mother." So true! Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/8/07, Shane Wall wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear CACC - or CACE (if you prefer), > I am moved by the plight of anh Hoanh's current situation to ask this > question: > > Who is a Hero / Heroine? > > There is no doubt that young Truyen is brave - maybe braver than most > of the rest of us. The results of his actions certainly show us how > brave Truyen is, but does that make him a "Hero"? > > I know many of my beloved CACC will disagree with me, but I believe > the true Heros/Heroines of the world are the people like anh Hoanh's > ailing Mom. The people who scrimp and scratch and save every day for > years on end in order to try to give their children a better life than > their own. If you agree with this thought, then anh Hoanh's Mom is a > "Champion of Heroines". > > I will never belittle em Truyen's bravery, but his efforts are an > isolated event - all people can be brave in an isolated instance or > circumstance. Military people will understand. Few people can be so > brave over many, many years and with so many difficulties to overcome. > > Anh Hoanh, to me, YOUR MOM is the true representation of a Heroine: > she nurtured and guided all of her children through difficulties most of > us "youngsters" cannot imagine. I truly believe that success in life is > built on the foundations of a mother's knee. > > Chi Phuong, please be your own Heroine for anh Hoanh and his family. > If there is only one thing I have learned from Vietnam, it is that > Vietnamese women are the strongest people on earth. > > May the Buddha, God, Allah, Shiva and all the world's God's bid anh > Hoanh's Mom a full recovery. > > Shane > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mr. Shane Wall > Principal, > > Trans Lingual Express > 120/14 Mai Thi Luu St, > P. 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Monday thr Thursday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm TOEFL 4: July 1 - July 27. Monday thr Thursday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm TOEFL 5: July 1 - July 27. Monday thr Thursday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm TOEFL 6: July 1 - July 27. Monday thr Thursday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm TOEFL 7: August 1 - August 30. Monday thr Thursday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm TOEFL 8: August 1 - August 30. Monday thr Thursday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm SAT 1: July 1 - July 27. Monday thr Thursday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm SAT 2: July 1 - July 27. Monday thr Thursday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm 2. C?N TH? GRE 1: July 7 - June 29. Monday thr Friday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm GRE 2: July 7 - June 29. Monday thr Friday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm TOEFL 1: July 7 - June 29. Monday thr Friday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm TOEFL 2: July 7 - June 29. Monday thr Friday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm TOEFL 3: August 1 - August 30. Monday thr Thursday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm TOEFL 4: August 1 - August 30. Monday thr Thursday. 3.30pm - 5.30pm TOEFL 5: August 1 - August 30. Monday thr Thursday. 1.30pm - 3.30pm TOEFL 6: August 1 - August 30. 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The official opening ceremony of the Sobhoun-Taichang International Border Checkpoint was held last Friday under rainy skies, which did not deter dance performances from both countries to mark this historic event, according to a press release from Phongsaly province authorities. Deputy Foreign Minister, Mr Phongsavat Boupha, and his Vietnamese counterpart, Mr Le Cong Phung, cut the ribbon alongside high-ranking Lao and Vietnamese officials to mark the checkpoint's opening. According to the press release, the new border checkpoint was opened in response to the aspirations of Lao and Vietnamese people for increased communication and cooperation in relation to tourism and trade. Easy communication will facilitate the all-round development of the Lao and Vietnamese border provinces. The checkpoint also represents an important gateway linking northern Laos with Thailand, China and Myanmar, the press release said. Tourism officials said the international border crossing would also give tourists in northern Vietnam the chance to visit Luang Prabang province in Laos, the country's first World Heritage-listed site. At the same time, the checkpoint will make it easier for tourists in northern Laos to travel to the well-known historic battlefield of Dien Bien Phu, the site of the French army's defeat in 1954. The French defeat marked the end of French control in Indochina, which has made the Dien Bien battlefield one of the most popular tourist destinations in the region. An official from the International Relations Office in Phongsaly, Mr Pheng Chenthaphoum, told the Vientiane Times that the border would now welcome people carrying passports who wanted to travel to Vietnam or enter Laos. He said the Lao and Vietnamese governments had deployed immigration officials to facilitate travel for tourists who wanted to cross the border at this checkpoint, as the border area was not well-developed, and had no modern facilities. There are daily buses travelling from the checkpoint to the main towns in Phongsaly and Oudomxay provinces, he added. Phongsaly is around 190 km from the checkpoint, on an unsealed road From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Wed May 9 05:00:16 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:00:16 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Wartsila Opens Shop in Hanoi Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF4123A@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Wartsila Opens Shop in Hanoi Wartsila Corp. Tuesday, May 08, 2007 Wartsila Corp. on Tuesday expanded its representation in Vietnam by opening a branch office in Hanoi. Vietnam is a rapidly growing market for Wartsila's products and services to the shipping, shipbuilding and power industries. "With more than 3000 km of coastline and abundant offshore oil and natural gas resources, Vietnam is a natural participant in the global power and marine industry and Wartsila will support and be part of its development," said Clas-Eirik Strand, Chairman of the board of Wartsila in Vietnam. Wartsila has had a permanent presence in Vietnam since 1994 when it set up a representative office in Ho Chi Minh City. In 1998 Wartsila obtained a business license to operate as a 100% foreign-owned service company and founded Wartsila Vietnam Co Ltd. The company in Vietnam is actively involved in the promotion of Wartsila marine power and propulsion systems and land-based power plants. Full after-sales support is provided for the complete range of products. The recent growth in world shipbuilding demand has led to the rise of Vietnam as a major shipbuilding country and thus as a market for Wartsila products and services. Wartsila is already supplying engines and propulsion systems from its wide range of products for newbuildings at shipyards in Vietnam. In parallel Wartsila is providing full after-sales support for the existing fleet and engineers are being trained as the engine population increases. Vietnam Shipbuilding Industry Corp. (Vinashin) is a key customer and within recent months, Wartsila received several orders from Vinashin for propulsion systems and low-speed main engines to be installed in newbuildings contracted at its shipyards. Wartsila, through its presence in Vietnam, will be able to strengthen its deliveries of required propulsion and power equipment and local technical expertise that will enable Vietnamese shipyards to compete for newbuilding contracts locally and internationally. Wartsila will thus contribute to the development of the Vietnamese shipbuilding industry for ocean-going and offshore vessels. From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Wed May 9 05:01:32 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:01:32 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Prudential funds to target Vietnam, infrastructure Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF4123B@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Prudential funds to target Vietnam, infrastructure Tuesday, May 08, 2007 REUTERS UK insurer Prudential aims to launch two new Vietnam funds and an Asian infrastructure fund before July, a senior executive with its asset management arm in Asia said Monday. The Vietnam funds would include one focused on private equity, which the firm hopes will start with at least US$50 million (HK$390 million) in assets, said Guy Strapp, regional head of investment management in Asia for Prudential Asset Management. "There's two [Vietnam] funds that we're looking to do. One would be private equity only. And one would be a mix, like the one we launched last year," he said. The asset management arm of Britain's second-largest listed insurer raised US$282.6 million last year with the November launch of its Vietnam Segregated Portfolio fund. The fund includes a combination of public and private equity, as well as fixed income. With one of the region's fastest- growing economies, Vietnam has become wildly popular with investors. The country's main stock index rose almost 145 percent last year and is up more than 30 percent since the end of 2006. A Vietnam-focused fund launched in November by JF Asset Management for Hong Kong investors was fully subscribed on its first day, raising almost US$50 million. Prudential is also looking to launch a fund investing in infrastructure-related stocks in Asian markets outside of Japan. The fund would use an open- ended structure which would allow it to be sold in a range of markets. "We don't like doing really any of these funds with less than US$100 million. That doesn't mean you have to have US$100 million at launch. But you want to have expectations of growing to that," he said. Strapp said that while Vietnam has been a particularly popular theme with retail investors in Japan and South Korea, the firm takes a longer-term view when launching its products. "When we do these themes we try not to have them so topical that they're in favor today, and out of favor tomorrow," he said. "When we do something like an infrastructure fund, we do it on that basis that there are very sound macro factors and its a sustainable investment opportunity." Prudential, which started its funds business in Asia in 1998, now operates in 10 markets in the region. The Asian fund operation's 29.2 billion (HK$454.83 billion) in assets at the end of last year made it one of the region's largest fund managers. About 43 percent came from retail investors, with the remainder from institutions and Prudential's own insurance operations. Strapp said the group is also looking to tap the region's pool of experienced emerging market fund managers by building a small team to run a portfolio of Latin American equities from Singapore. Prudential is also looking at expanding its private equity investment beyond Vietnam. REUTERS From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Wed May 9 05:03:54 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:03:54 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Toshiba to open Vietnam R&D unit Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF4123C@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Wednesday, May 9, 2007 Toshiba to open Vietnam R&D unit Kyodo News Toshiba Corp. said Tuesday it will step up overseas research and development operations in digital consumer products by establishing a wholly owned subsidiary for embedded software in Vietnam in June. The electronics conglomerate will establish Toshiba Software Development (Vietnam) Co. as its core overseas development center for embedded software for digital appliances and mobile phones. The subsidiary, located in Hanoi with capitalization of $ 500,000, will start operations next month with about 20 locally hired employees. It plans to increase the number to 300 by 2010. From hdangthu at gmail.com Wed May 9 09:01:09 2007 From: hdangthu at gmail.com (huong dang thu) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:01:09 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> Hi my bro and sis, Thax bro Hoanh. I love your message. I very interest in "value". Some questions want to ask. Is "value" something that we have to train ourselves to have, or something that we got when we were born (naturally)? For example, I believe 'purity' is a value. And I can find this value the best from the children. So, is purity a kind of values that we got when we were born? Because I find out that some "values" may change by time. And I think sometimes the changing values in this changing time go in conflict to each others. So how can we do to make sure that the value that we pursue doesn't fight the other's? And, bro Hoanh. Really want to share with your mother and your fam. Wish you all the best! Wish my bro and sis energy, HeO On 5/8/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC, > > Sister Bich Lien's message about value a while ago prompts this message. > There are different ways to grasp that elusive quality that we call > "leadership," but probably the simplest and clearest way to to focus on is > "value. We will approach the leadership from the value perspective today. > > As we know, a crucial element of leadership is "vision" (or goal), > something to strive for, some distant destination for the journey. And that > destination, that goal, that vision is best described in term of value--some > value to strive for. > > Say, in the American war for Independence (against England), the values > are national independence and personal freedom. In the "Reagan revolution" > those values of national and individual freedom are re-affirmed. In the > Communist revolution, the value was "absolute equality." In Jesus > teachings, the value is "love." In the Buddha teachings, the value is > "absolute stillness of the mind." In the anti-French war, the value was > "national independence." > > So, if you run a company, which has the general goal of making money, what > would be the values other than money making? The answer is your own > choice. You have to determine what values you want you and your employees to > achieve, such as 'Excellence in service" or "Clients are our best friends" > or "Innovation in the market place" or "The best place to work." These > organizational values are usually placed in the organization's "Mission > Statement." Ex: "The ABC University aims to achieve equal education > opportunity for all and to bring the best education to the poor and the > underprivileged." Here we can see that the value in this mission statement > is "Equal education opportunity, especially for poor and the > underprivileged." > > So an organization (or a group) has a goal that consists of some value(s) > to strive for. And the leader is the champion for that goal. She is the > one that goes out to convince and encourage everyone to achieve the goal. > > But apart from those *organizational values*, there is another set of > values in the person of the leader that makes her different from the > non-leader. And here is where true leadership resides. Almost everyone can > equally set out some organizational goal ( i.e., some organizational > values) to aim for, but not everyone has all the values of a great leader in > him/her. > > But what are those "*personal values*" of a leader? > > I am not sure that there is a absolutely right answer. Each one of us > probably comes up with some slightly different answer. But generally, I > think we can use the five Confucian virtues: Nhan, Le, Nghia, Tri, Tin > (love, respect, loyalty, wisdom, trustworthiness). These 5 virtues are > valued in all cultures of the world. They are in the human heart every > where. > > The better one can master these values, the higher leadership quality one > has. Mastering these virtues is much easier talked than done. Say, do you > think that president Bush and his administration honestly made a mistake on > Iraq's weapon of mass destruction and nuclear capability (which mistake led > to the Iraq invasion)? Or do you think that they "wanted" to make that > mistake? The answer goes to the "honesty" and "trustworthiness" of the > leader. You don't have to come out and lie blatantly (the way Clinton said > "I did not have sex with that woman); you only have to be dishonest enough > in your heart to "want to make an honest mistake." > > Ed Meese, President Reagan's attorney general, said that during Reagan's > first cabinet meeting (right after Reagan was elected president), Reagan > said briefly, something like "Well, we've got our job to do. Just do what > you think is right." So Reagan was telling his ministers to do what they > feel is morally right in their heart, not what may please the press, or what > may increase the approval rating in the polls, not what may increase the > popularity of his presidency. He said "Do what is right." It means, "Do > what is right, even if it hurts." Reagan was a champion of "the right > thing," of the high values in the human heart. That is the mark of a great > leader. > > In sum, a great leader is one who champions great human values, by > mastering (or at least constantly trying to master) them in his own life and > work, and by leading his people to a goal that further advances some great > human values. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070509/686a130e/attachment.html From hdangthu at gmail.com Wed May 9 09:10:28 2007 From: hdangthu at gmail.com (huong dang thu) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:10:28 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] What is a "Hero/Heroine"? - was "14-year-old hero" In-Reply-To: References: <4640C24C.3020901@translingualexpress.com> Message-ID: <4badee940705090910r43affb20ub1f50061a550f5f8@mail.gmail.com> Dear bro Shane & bro Hoanh, Thank you so much for your writing. As a Vietnamese girl, I don't understand deeply the great position of our great Vietnamese woman. I admire my grandma, my mom but by your deep thinking, you really awake me with the great virtues of my grand ma, my mom that in my daily life, I haven't paid much attention to. Thanks again. It's really warm. HeO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070509/53eba3ae/attachment.html From xoaixanhchammuoi at yahoo.com Wed May 9 09:28:56 2007 From: xoaixanhchammuoi at yahoo.com (Nguyen Hai Thanh) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] Project introducing young expatriates to Vietnam !! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <616733.80591.qm@web62409.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear CACC, This is the first time I raise a topic myself instead of giving comments on CACC's news so I feel pretty strange :D As I'm working on a project which brings down potential young expatriates, especially the Japanese to companies in Vietnam, I would like to tell CACC more about our project. I am now a member of AIESEC International Students Organization, whose corework is Internship Program - giving young people chances to work on an internship abroad. Though some of you have never heard of it before, I can say that it's the biggest students organization in terms of members and partners/clients. Its theme is to help youngsters to experience living globally either through cultural exchange or internship in another country. Also it helps to develop the students' cultural sensitivity and also leadership skills through numerous leadership positions. Currently, we have local committees in Hanoi and Saigon. Our main project is Japan bridge - which focus on bringing Japanese youngsters to companies in Vietnam which require talented Japanese HR and Vietnamese interns to companies in Japan as well. Moreover, we also introduce interns of over 100 nationalities worldwide (AIESEC is now operating in more than 100 countries) on demand. Consequently, I would be grateful if CACC can make it more widely known about our project. Also if the company CACC are working in is now requiring expatriates in short-term ranging from 2 months to 1.5 years, please let me know and I can meet you anytime to give you a brief introduction about our project. I am looking forward to your reply. Best regards, NGUYEN THI HAI THANH Foreign Trade University 098 335 9186 --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070509/2802d327/attachment.html From xoaixanhchammuoi at yahoo.com Wed May 9 09:29:27 2007 From: xoaixanhchammuoi at yahoo.com (Nguyen Hai Thanh) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] Project introducing young expatriates to Vietnam !! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <418634.3417.qm@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear CACC, This is the first time I raise a topic myself instead of giving comments on CACC's news so I feel pretty strange :D As I'm working on a project which brings down potential young expatriates, especially the Japanese to companies in Vietnam, I would like to tell CACC more about our project. I am now a member of AIESEC International Students Organization, whose corework is Internship Program - giving young people chances to work on an internship abroad. Though some of you have never heard of it before, I can say that it's the biggest students organization in terms of members and partners/clients. Its theme is to help youngsters to experience living globally either through cultural exchange or internship in another country. Also it helps to develop the students' cultural sensitivity and also leadership skills through numerous leadership positions. Currently, we have local committees in Hanoi and Saigon. Our main project is Japan bridge - which focus on bringing Japanese youngsters to companies in Vietnam which require talented Japanese HR and Vietnamese interns to companies in Japan as well. Moreover, we also introduce interns of over 100 nationalities worldwide (AIESEC is now operating in more than 100 countries) on demand. Consequently, I would be grateful if CACC can make it more widely known about our project. Also if the company CACC are working in is now requiring expatriates in short-term ranging from 2 months to 1.5 years, please let me know and I can meet you anytime to give you a brief introduction about our project. I am looking forward to your reply. Best regards, NGUYEN THI HAI THANH Foreign Trade University 098 335 9186 --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070509/a37837fe/attachment.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Wed May 9 12:39:29 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:39:29 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear sister Thu Huong & CACC, Thanks for the note about my mother, Thu Huong. As I wrote my previous message, I was afraid that someone would ask a tough follow-up question. And sure enough, here you are. Can't avoid them! :-( Values, are we born with them? Or do we obtain them through learning? The answer is both. Some values exist in all cultures of the world, anywhere, anytime, such as love your neighbor, love your parents, be honest, be wise, do not murder, etc. These values are deemed intrinsic to human life. It is almost like we are born with them (although of course we have to learn them as we grow up). Upon these values, we develop a systems of law that are similar in all human societies, such as the law against murder, law against stealing, law against false witness. In legal philosophy, we call these laws "*natural law*" because it seems that we human naturally know these laws regardless of who we are and where we are. (Some legal philosophers stop at natural law. But some others will take the natural law theory a step further into the realm of religious reasoning, like this: Who put the natural law into the human heart? Religious answer: God). Other values may be developed later by us as our societies develop, such as, right of abortion, right of privacy, gender equality, etc... But, please note that this classification of "intrinsic human values" and "later-developed values" may not mean much either :-( because you can always make a philosophical argument that, say, the "right of privacy" or "right not to be enslaved" are "intrinsic" to human life but we humans happen to discover them a little late in our history. It is probably simpler to look at the time line: There are values that all human societies have acquired since the beginning of time (such as love, honesty, loyalty, etc.), and there are values that appear later in human history, such as right of privacy, right of gender equality. And as our way of thinking and living develop, new values are being developed each day. Say, how about the right to Internet access for all? Regardless of what kind of value we are talking about, my thinking is that we all have to learn them to master them (even though some values may just happen even if we don't learn, like loving our parents and being loyal to them). But as values develop, we start to see many conflicting values, say slavery v. anti-slavery, women first v. women equal to men :-), individual freedom of speech v. state right to control speech, etc. All these conflicting values pose a practical problem: How are we going to live together if our values are in conflict? How do smokers and anti-smokers live together? How do abortionists live together with abortion advocates? How to solve this "living together" issue is the core of "social engineering," i.e., structuring our society in a way that we all with different ideas and values can live peacefully and happily together. Sometimes we fail, and we turn to kill each other for our values, as history has shown very often. My answer here really leads to nowhere yet. But I hope it helps outline the general issues we face. Have a great day, Thu Huong and all. Incredible questions! Hoanh On 5/9/07, huong dang thu wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Hi my bro and sis, > > > > Thax bro Hoanh. I love your message. I very interest in "value". > > > > Some questions want to ask. > > > > > > Is "value" something that we have to train ourselves to have, or something > that we got when we were born (naturally)? For example, I believe > 'purity' is a value. And I can find this value the best from the children. > So, is purity a kind of values that we got when we were born? > > > > Because I find out that some "values" may change by time. And I think > sometimes the changing values in this changing time go in conflict to each > others. So how can we do to make sure that the value that we pursue doesn't > fight the other's? > > > > And, bro Hoanh. Really want to share with your mother and your fam. Wish > you all the best! > > > > Wish my bro and sis energy, > > HeO > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070509/6f6e2812/attachment.html From outlook124 at gmail.com Wed May 9 20:38:16 2007 From: outlook124 at gmail.com (Hai M. Tran) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:38:16 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007c01c792b4$a98a7320$3300a8c0@cihp.org> Dear sister Huong, brother Hoanh and CACC, Thanks sister Huong for email. I sometimes face what I called "values conflict" and I do not know how to solve it. Cuz of this conflict, I do not where to go further and it confused me much. I understand that I need to be more clever and have a broader knowledge and experience to indentify what is what and what s going on. But I would love you guys and gals to share some thoughts, heart and mind with me. Consequently, I can benifit much from it under various perspectives. Thanks very much and waiting for your reply. Please! Great day, Hai -- Hai M. Tran, LLB Hanoi, Vietnam -----Original Message----- From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of huong dang thu Sent: 09 May 2007 23:01 To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values Hi my bro and sis, Thax bro Hoanh. I love your message. I very interest in "value". Some questions want to ask. Is "value" something that we have to train ourselves to have, or something that we got when we were born (naturally)? For example, I believe 'purity' is a value. And I can find this value the best from the children. So, is purity a kind of values that we got when we were born? Because I find out that some "values" may change by time. And I think sometimes the changing values in this changing time go in conflict to each others. So how can we do to make sure that the value that we pursue doesn't fight the other's? And, bro Hoanh. Really want to share with your mother and your fam. Wish you all the best! Wish my bro and sis energy, HeO On 5/8/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear CACC, Sister Bich Lien's message about value a while ago prompts this message. There are different ways to grasp that elusive quality that we call "leadership," but probably the simplest and clearest way to to focus on is "value. We will approach the leadership from the value perspective today. As we know, a crucial element of leadership is "vision" (or goal), something to strive for, some distant destination for the journey. And that destination, that goal, that vision is best described in term of value--some value to strive for. Say, in the American war for Independence (against England), the values are national independence and personal freedom. In the "Reagan revolution" those values of national and individual freedom are re-affirmed. In the Communist revolution, the value was "absolute equality." In Jesus teachings, the value is "love." In the Buddha teachings, the value is "absolute stillness of the mind." In the anti-French war, the value was "national independence." So, if you run a company, which has the general goal of making money, what would be the values other than money making? The answer is your own choice. You have to determine what values you want you and your employees to achieve, such as 'Excellence in service" or "Clients are our best friends" or "Innovation in the market place" or "The best place to work." These organizational values are usually placed in the organization's "Mission Statement." Ex: "The ABC University aims to achieve equal education opportunity for all and to bring the best education to the poor and the underprivileged." Here we can see that the value in this mission statement is "Equal education opportunity, especially for poor and the underprivileged." So an organization (or a group) has a goal that consists of some value(s) to strive for. And the leader is the champion for that goal. She is the one that goes out to convince and encourage everyone to achieve the goal. But apart from those organizational values, there is another set of values in the person of the leader that makes her different from the non-leader. And here is where true leadership resides. Almost everyone can equally set out some organizational goal ( i.e., some organizational values) to aim for, but not everyone has all the values of a great leader in him/her. But what are those "personal values" of a leader? I am not sure that there is a absolutely right answer. Each one of us probably comes up with some slightly different answer. But generally, I think we can use the five Confucian virtues: Nhan, Le, Nghia, Tri, Tin (love, respect, loyalty, wisdom, trustworthiness). These 5 virtues are valued in all cultures of the world. They are in the human heart every where. The better one can master these values, the higher leadership quality one has. Mastering these virtues is much easier talked than done. Say, do you think that president Bush and his administration honestly made a mistake on Iraq's weapon of mass destruction and nuclear capability (which mistake led to the Iraq invasion)? Or do you think that they "wanted" to make that mistake? The answer goes to the "honesty" and "trustworthiness" of the leader. You don't have to come out and lie blatantly (the way Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman); you only have to be dishonest enough in your heart to "want to make an honest mistake." Ed Meese, President Reagan's attorney general, said that during Reagan's first cabinet meeting (right after Reagan was elected president), Reagan said briefly, something like "Well, we've got our job to do. Just do what you think is right." So Reagan was telling his ministers to do what they feel is morally right in their heart, not what may please the press, or what may increase the approval rating in the polls, not what may increase the popularity of his presidency. He said "Do what is right." It means, "Do what is right, even if it hurts." Reagan was a champion of "the right thing," of the high values in the human heart. That is the mark of a great leader. In sum, a great leader is one who champions great human values, by mastering (or at least constantly trying to master) them in his own life and work, and by leading his people to a goal that further advances some great human values. Have a great day! Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/b59c0a80/attachment.html From tranbathien at gmail.com Wed May 9 22:51:39 2007 From: tranbathien at gmail.com (Tran Ba Thien) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:51:39 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c792c7$509b4a10$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Dear CACC >From the question: Values, are we born with them? In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those children could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded that value was not from natural but socialized. Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect from you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your social role. IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family members expect that she would marry good man. The values of that good man in the mind of her family are handsom, good education, good job, good personality and etc. What happens when she loves an old and poor man, who is older than her over 30 years? What happens when she loves someone, who is less than her 12 years? her family members never expect for those. Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young lady above, when she loves someone that her family members don't expect for the love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, personal freedom, she respects the values of love, she must overcome her family barrier to reach to that value.But if she thinks the value of her birth family is the highest, she must painfully follow her family and deny the unexpecting love. it's not her sacrify for the value but only her choice. for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from learning. You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. in a room without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. You see the fact then you don't want to smoke here even you are desired for smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed everywhere, you would not pay attention for if any smoke or not. You would smoke whenever you like. Smoking at right place is value of today personality.Why is it up today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? Because today people expect you to perform the value and because you want to keep the value. Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values without any assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they are very good. But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say Confucius standards may bring better living quality. Some disagree. They argue that bad leaders use the unmeasurable standards of Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view say life is constituted on many opposite sides. It's really a big confuse for us to take a choice especially in value conflicts. In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good is something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and promote spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot be beautiful. It may be beautiful when the author shows out living creature is trying to rise up through out the death. In daily living, it's hard to seperate which is good and which is beauty. The 2 things mix together in our activities. When you give food to someone, the activity supports their life and it raises your heart up too. For my experience, I always use the 2 values as basic values to judge other values in order to take options. Yes, it's not easy to take decision in conflicts of value. Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule that's no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but they fail. Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for everything. Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of aesthetic are my base. I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure that I always obey my rule. Bestg wishes, Tran Ba Thien tranbathien at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear sister Thu Huong & CACC, Thanks for the note about my mother, Thu Huong. As I wrote my previous message, I was afraid that someone would ask a tough follow-up question. And sure enough, here you are. Can't avoid them! :-( Values, are we born with them? Or do we obtain them through learning? The answer is both. Some values exist in all cultures of the world, anywhere, anytime, such as love your neighbor, love your parents, be honest, be wise, do not murder, etc. These values are deemed intrinsic to human life. It is almost like we are born with them (although of course we have to learn them as we grow up). Upon these values, we develop a systems of law that are similar in all human societies, such as the law against murder, law against stealing, law against false witness. In legal philosophy, we call these laws " natural law" because it seems that we human naturally know these laws regardless of who we are and where we are. (Some legal philosophers stop at natural law. But some others will take the natural law theory a step further into the realm of religious reasoning, like this: Who put the natural law into the human heart? Religious answer: God). Other values may be developed later by us as our societies develop, such as, right of abortion, right of privacy, gender equality, etc... But, please note that this classification of "intrinsic human values" and "later-developed values" may not mean much either :-( because you can always make a philosophical argument that, say, the "right of privacy" or "right not to be enslaved" are "intrinsic" to human life but we humans happen to discover them a little late in our history. It is probably simpler to look at the time line: There are values that all human societies have acquired since the beginning of time (such as love, honesty, loyalty, etc.), and there are values that appear later in human history, such as right of privacy, right of gender equality. And as our way of thinking and living develop, new values are being developed each day. Say, how about the right to Internet access for all? Regardless of what kind of value we are talking about, my thinking is that we all have to learn them to master them (even though some values may just happen even if we don't learn, like loving our parents and being loyal to them). But as values develop, we start to see many conflicting values, say slavery v. anti-slavery, women first v. women equal to men :-), individual freedom of speech v. state right to control speech, etc. All these conflicting values pose a practical problem: How are we going to live together if our values are in conflict? How do smokers and anti-smokers live together? How do abortionists live together with abortion advocates? How to solve this "living together" issue is the core of "social engineering," i.e., structuring our society in a way that we all with different ideas and values can live peacefully and happily together. Sometimes we fail, and we turn to kill each other for our values, as history has shown very often. My answer here really leads to nowhere yet. But I hope it helps outline the general issues we face. Have a great day, Thu Huong and all. Incredible questions! Hoanh On 5/9/07, huong dang thu wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Hi my bro and sis, Thax bro Hoanh. I love your message. I very interest in "value". Some questions want to ask. Is "value" something that we have to train ourselves to have, or something that we got when we were born (naturally)? For example, I believe 'purity' is a value. And I can find this value the best from the children. So, is purity a kind of values that we got when we were born? Because I find out that some "values" may change by time. And I think sometimes the changing values in this changing time go in conflict to each others. So how can we do to make sure that the value that we pursue doesn't fight the other's? And, bro Hoanh. Really want to share with your mother and your fam. Wish you all the best! Wish my bro and sis energy, HeO -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/6beba3bb/attachment-0001.html From ntpnga2001 at yahoo.com Thu May 10 00:22:11 2007 From: ntpnga2001 at yahoo.com (Nguyen Thi Phuong Nga) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 00:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] Project introducing young expatriates to Vietnam !! In-Reply-To: <418634.3417.qm@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <883653.16513.qm@web31009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanh oi, I am interested in your project but not in getting expartriate to some company. I wonder if you need some Vietnamese students from abroad to help you to help expartriates in your program on volunteer basics during their summer holidays in VN. Thanks for your soonest response. Cheers Nguyen Thi Phuong Nga Ministry of Agriculture and Rural DEvelopment --- Nguyen Hai Thanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear CACC, > This is the first time I raise a topic myself > instead of giving comments on CACC's news so I feel > pretty strange :D As I'm working on a project which > brings down potential young expatriates, especially > the Japanese to companies in Vietnam, I would like > to tell CACC more about our project. > > I am now a member of AIESEC International Students > Organization, whose corework is Internship Program - > giving young people chances to work on an internship > abroad. Though some of you have never heard of it > before, I can say that it's the biggest students > organization in terms of members and > partners/clients. Its theme is to help youngsters to > experience living globally either through cultural > exchange or internship in another country. Also it > helps to develop the students' cultural sensitivity > and also leadership skills through numerous > leadership positions. > > Currently, we have local committees in Hanoi and > Saigon. Our main project is Japan bridge - which > focus on bringing Japanese youngsters to companies > in Vietnam which require talented Japanese HR and > Vietnamese interns to companies in Japan as well. > Moreover, we also introduce interns of over 100 > nationalities worldwide (AIESEC is now operating in > more than 100 countries) on demand. Consequently, I > would be grateful if CACC can make it more widely > known about our project. Also if the company CACC > are working in is now requiring expatriates in > short-term ranging from 2 months to 1.5 years, > please let me know and I can meet you anytime to > give you a brief introduction about our project. > > I am looking forward to your reply. > > Best regards, > NGUYEN THI HAI THANH > Foreign Trade University > 098 335 9186 > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss an email again! > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail > arrives. Check it out.> _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at > http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From trieuthuylan at gmail.com Thu May 10 03:08:50 2007 From: trieuthuylan at gmail.com (LanT ) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:08:50 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh and chi Phuong, Please receive my pray for your dear Mom. I hope your Mom will get well soon, she is such an admirable woman... Please take care of yourselves too to help her win this battle. All the best, Trieu Thuy Lan On 5/8/07, Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear anh Hoanh, > I understand and respect your reasoning. > Let's hope and pray the day we can visit your mother when she is in much > better shape is not far away. > Best, > HPP > > > > *"Tran Dinh Hoanh" * > Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com > > 05/08/2007 12:45 AM Please respond to > vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > To > vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc > > Subject > Re: [Vnbiz] [vnbiz]: Brother Hoanh's Mom > > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > Dear brother Phong, > > Thanks for the note and the prayer. Yes, I understand the power of > collective prayer. And I am grateful that many brothers and sisters are > pouring in such collective strength. Thank you all. > > My mother is still in intensive care at the hospital. I imagine my family > would welcome a visit, but if my mom could communicate with me now, I would > think she would say, "Come on, I am in my worst shape and you want to > introduce me to my friend?" So, in respect to her wishes (as guessed by > me), I would think we would just leave her alone for now. A prayer would be > wonderful for her. > > Two days ago, I insisted that the doctors keep her away from sedative as > much as they can, because "she is trying to fight her battle, and you guys > keep putting her down by giving sedative to her." The doctors agreed with > my request and now use sedative at the minimum level, she looks much better > today and appears to be more alert. I am keeping my fingers crossed. > > Thanks brother Phong and everyone for your support and prayer. They are > good for my mom and for my entire family. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > > > On 5/7/07, *Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov* <*Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov > * > wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > Dear anh Hoanh, > I don't think I've met your Mom in person. > Is she at home or in the hospital now? > Would you and your family welcome a visit? > Never underestimate to power of prayers, especially collective prayers. > Sometimes, it's the only thing left to do. > I was personally reminded of this last week, when I fell off a ladder on > May 1st working around the house. > During the first ten minutes or so after the fall, when I was flat on my > back, in pain, couldn't move and not certain what shape I was in, I prayed. > I am happy to report that while the injuries will keep me from heavy > lifting for 6 weeks while the compression fractures in my L1 lumbar heals, > my sore muscles are recovering well and I am up and moving almost normally. > It could have been much worse. > It's been a wake up call that we are not getting any younger, nor more > flexible physically. > Best, HPP > > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Tri?u Th?y Lan Email: trieuthuylan at gmail.com Mobile: (84) 090 222 6984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/0789bec0/attachment.html From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Thu May 10 04:59:30 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 07:59:30 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Activists sentenced in Vietnam Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF4125F@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Activists sentenced in Vietnam May. 10, 2007 The Associated Press HANOI, Vietnam -- A Vietnamese court sentenced three pro-democracy activists to prison Thursday after convicting them of spreading subversive propaganda, as the communist country continued its latest crackdown against dissent. Prosecutors said the three had collaborated with Cong Thanh Do, a Vietnamese emigre from San Jose, Calif., who was expelled from Vietnam in September after authorities accused him of plotting against the communist government. Le Nguyen Sang was sentenced to five years, Nguyen Bac Truyen to four years, and Huynh Nguyen Dao to three years. They were found guilty of violating Article 88 of Vietnam's criminal code, which broadly prohibits disseminating information harmful to the state. The U.S. Embassy in Hanoi released a statement saying it was "deeply troubled" by the convictions. "We're not aware of anything to indicate that these individuals were engaged in activities that conflict with their right to peaceful expression of political thought, widely recognized under international law," the statement said. The convictions came in the wake of a "disturbing increase" in the harassment of dissidents, the embassy said. "We call on the government of Vietnam to release these individuals and allow for the peaceful expression of political views without fear of recrimination." On Friday, two well-known Hanoi human rights lawyers, Nguyen Van Dai and Le Thi Cong Nhan, will go on trial on similar charges. Hours before the trial began, Hanoi released a political prisoner who had been detained for more than two decades and allowed him to fly to the United States to be reunited with his family. Authorities released Phan Van Ban We, who had been imprisoned since 1985 after he joined an organization calling for political change. Ban, a former policeman from the city of Dalat, left Vietnam on Wednesday night and flew to the U.S., where he was to be reunited with a son who is an American citizen. Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet granted a pardon to Ban on April 25, citing his advancing age and desire to be reunited with his family, according to the Vietnam News Agency. Ban was born in 1937, though his exact age was immediately clear. The U.S. Embassy issued a statement Thursday welcoming Ban's release. "He was held in prison for more than 20 years after peacefully calling for political change in Vietnam," the statement said. "We are pleased that Mr. Ban will soon be able to join his family in the United States. From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Thu May 10 05:03:50 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:03:50 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Asian Champions League: Seongnam Ilhwa defeats Dong Tam Long An Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41260@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Asian Champions League: Seongnam Ilhwa defeats Dong Tam Long An 2-1 The Associated PressPublished: May 9, 2007 HANOI, Vietnam: A late goal by defender Park Jin-sub helped South Korea's Seongnam Ilhwa to a 2-1 win over Vietnam's Dong Tam Long An on Wednesday in Group G of the Asian Champions League. Striker Mota put the South Korean champions ahead in the 17th minute with a powerful shot from 25 meters. Skipper Phan Van Tai Em leveled for the Vietnamese side in first-half injury time with a close range volley off Congolese striker Kabanga Tshamala's cross. Park sealed the win for Seongnam five minutes from fulltime with a shot from 18 meters. Seongnam, with 10 points, trails China's Shandong by three points heading into the final round robin match.The Vietnamese champion Dong Tam Long An are eliminated from quarterfinals contention, along with Australia's Adelaide United. From tdhoanh at gmail.com Thu May 10 05:18:03 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:18:03 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <001201c792c7$509b4a10$0a00000a@BATHIEN> References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> <001201c792c7$509b4a10$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Message-ID: Dear Brother Thien & CACC, If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, and many of them are similar to human rules, such as parents taking care of children and defending the children, children loving parents, each animal holding a specific job in a group, united against common enemies, taking care of the old and the weak, etc. So obviously there are social rules even before [human] social consciousness develops. And these rules are not man-made. We can call them natural law or whatever, but certainly they are not man-made. But of course, we human develop our societies and our values to a much more complex level through socilization and learning. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/10/07, Tran Ba Thien wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC > > From the question: Values, are we born with them? > > In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with > animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those children > could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded that value was > not from natural but socialized. > > Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect from > you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your social role. > IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family members expect that she > would marry good man. The values of that good man in the mind of her family > are handsom, good education, good job, good personality and etc. What > happens when she loves an old and poor man, who is older than her over 30 > years? What happens when she loves someone, who is less than her 12 years? > her family members never expect for those. > > Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. > Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young lady > above, when she loves someone that her family members don't expect for the > love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, personal freedom, > she respects the values of love, she must overcome her family barrier to > reach to that value.But if she thinks the value of her birth family is the > highest, she must painfully follow her family and deny the unexpecting love. > it's not her sacrify for the value but only her choice. > > for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from learning. > You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. in a room > without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. You see the fact > then you don't want to smoke here even you are desired for smoking now. But > 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed everywhere, you would not pay > attention for if any smoke or not. You would smoke whenever you like. > Smoking at right place is value of today personality.Why is it up today > but not in 30 or 50 years ago? Because today people expect you to perform > the value and because you want to keep the value. > > Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. > Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. > > Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on the > issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values without any > assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they are very good. > But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say Confucius standards may > bring better living quality. Some disagree. They argue that bad leaders use > the unmeasurable standards of Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view > say life is constituted on many opposite sides. It's really a big confuse > for us to take a choice especially in value conflicts. > > In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good is > something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and promote > spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot be beautiful. > It may be beautiful when the author shows out living creature is trying to > rise up through out the death. In daily living, it's hard to seperate which > is good and which is beauty. The 2 things mix together in our activities. > When you give food to someone, the activity supports their life and it > raises your heart up too. For my experience, I always use the 2 values as > basic values to judge other values in order to take options. Yes, it's not > easy to take decision in conflicts of value. > > Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every > case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule that's > no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but they fail. > Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for everything. > Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of aesthetic are my base. > I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure that I always obey my rule. > > Bestg wishes, > > > Tran Ba Thien > tranbathien at gmail.com > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/36a97814/attachment.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Thu May 10 07:55:12 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:55:12 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <007c01c792b4$a98a7320$3300a8c0@cihp.org> References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> <007c01c792b4$a98a7320$3300a8c0@cihp.org> Message-ID: Dear Brother Hai & CACC, Brother Hai, resolving value conflict is the most difficult activity in building our personal life and our society's life. It is because that we all think similarly but also differently, and values changes according to each person, and also according to the time and place. What is good for you may not be good for your friend. What is good in the South may not be good in the North. What is good 50 years ago may not be good now. Our entire life is a long series of making value choices everyday--if we choose to smoke now; we smoke, if we choose to not smoke, then we don't smoke. Conflicting values hit us all the time, every day. We just have to resolve value conflicts by making choices. Resolving value conflicts at personal level is somewhat different from resolving value conflict at societal level. 1. At personal level, I am not sure how to recommend. My advice has always been: "Follow your own heart, make the choice, and take the consequences of your choice." Both medical school and law school may be equally attractive to you, but you can only go to one school for now, you just have to choose which one. Ask your own heart. The other advice is that, keep yourself much flexibility as you can. If you don't have to close the door now, then don't close the door. Say, tattoo. You want to have a tattoo on your chest, and you ask "Should I put a tattoo on my chest?" I would advice, "If in the future you change your mind and want to take the tattoo off, and you can take it off your chest easily, then have a tattoo on your chest now. If you cannot take it off your chest easily in the future, then think hard about it before deciding." Or "I am not sure I should marry her now and wait a little later?" then my advice should be "If you don't have to marry her now, then don't, because you still have the flexibility to marry her later. If you marry her now when you are still unsure, then it is much harder her to leave her once you find out that you have made a mistake." All things being equal, the choice that gives you more flexibility is always the better choice. But I agree that making value choices are not easy. Sometimes you can't seem to decide one way or another. Then wait. Many times in life, when your mind is so confused, time can bring out an answer for you. Just wait and give Ms. Time some time to work her wonder. One of the way of resolving value conflict is not making a "blanket rule," but making choices according to circumstances. Say, I am not smoking, but I am not having a "blanket rule" of never smoking. Once in a while with a group of smoking friends, I may puff a cigarette or two, just to socialize. This "going with the circumstances" methodology is very practical and good, but it also has the danger of allowing us to really slide down to a lower level of integrity "Di voi but mac ao ca sa, di voi ma mac ao giay" (Walking with the Buddha, wear a cassock, walking with a ghost, wear paper clothes). So going with honest people, be honest. Going with corrupt people, be corrupt. You see how we may become unprincipled, undisciplined and low that way? You just have to know what you can be flexible with and what you can't, what discipline you have to be rigid about, what you can be flexible with, when and where? This is a matter of personal judgment. You have to decide for yourself. Never easy. Living is an art. 2. At the societal level, the best mechanism of resolving conflict is "talk, negotiate and compromise," which is the fundamental of what we call "democratic practice." Smokers and non-smokers just have to talk together, negotiate and come up with some kind of reasonable rule that makes both happy, like "You can't smoke in an enclosed public space, but you can smoke in a designated-smoking place where there is sufficient ventilation." Of course, life is not simple and easy as I say here. But generally, that is how we approach the issue. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/9/07, Hai M. Tran wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear sister Huong, brother Hoanh and CACC, > > Thanks sister Huong for email. > > I sometimes face what I called "values conflict" and I do not know how to > solve it. > > Cuz of this conflict, I do not where to go further and it confused > me much. > > I understand that I need to be more clever and have a broader knowledge > and experience to indentify what is what and what s going on. But I would > love you guys and gals to share some thoughts, heart and mind with me. > Consequently, I can benifit much from it under various perspectives. > > Thanks very much and waiting for your reply. Please! > > > Great day, > > > Hai > > > > > > -- > Hai M. Tran, LLB > Hanoi, Vietnam > -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/a397d14e/attachment.html From Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov Thu May 10 09:28:52 2007 From: Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov (Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:28:52 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't think animal pecking orders and human values can be put in the same basket. In the animal world (and some human societies), the primary law is survival of the fittest, modified by survival of the species when the weaker young are protected. There is no taking care of the old and infirmed. The worker ants slave away all day long because that is its specific job. Some people of the age of slavery not so long ago holds the value that it is natural for blacks to be slaves because they are designed to be so. It took a great civil war and a long time to change that set of values. In India, where the caste system existed, some human are considered untouchables. But that is also changing. Human values evolve, animal's rules do not. HPP "Tran Dinh Hoanh" Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 05/10/2007 08:18 AM Please respond to vnbiz at vietlinks.net To vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc Subject Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear Brother Thien & CACC, If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, and many of them are similar to human rules, such as parents taking care of children and defending the children, children loving parents, each animal holding a specific job in a group, united against common enemies, taking care of the old and the weak, etc. So obviously there are social rules even before [human] social consciousness develops. And these rules are not man-made. We can call them natural law or whatever, but certainly they are not man-made. But of course, we human develop our societies and our values to a much more complex level through socilization and learning. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/10/07, Tran Ba Thien wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear CACC >From the question: Values, are we born with them? In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those children could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded that value was not from natural but socialized. Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect from you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your social role. IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family members expect that she would marry good man. The values of that good man in the mind of her family are handsom, good education, good job, good personality and etc. What happens when she loves an old and poor man, who is older than her over 30 years? What happens when she loves someone, who is less than her 12 years? her family members never expect for those. Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young lady above, when she loves someone that her family members don't expect for the love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, personal freedom, she respects the values of love, she must overcome her family barrier to reach to that value.But if she thinks the value of her birth family is the highest, she must painfully follow her family and deny the unexpecting love. it's not her sacrify for the value but only her choice. for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from learning. You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. in a room without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. You see the fact then you don't want to smoke here even you are desired for smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed everywhere, you would not pay attention for if any smoke or not. You would smoke whenever you like. Smoking at right place is value of today personality.Why is it up today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? Because today people expect you to perform the value and because you want to keep the value. Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values without any assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they are very good. But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say Confucius standards may bring better living quality. Some disagree. They argue that bad leaders use the unmeasurable standards of Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view say life is constituted on many opposite sides. It's really a big confuse for us to take a choice especially in value conflicts. In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good is something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and promote spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot be beautiful. It may be beautiful when the author shows out living creature is trying to rise up through out the death. In daily living, it's hard to seperate which is good and which is beauty. The 2 things mix together in our activities. When you give food to someone, the activity supports their life and it raises your heart up too. For my experience, I always use the 2 values as basic values to judge other values in order to take options. Yes, it's not easy to take decision in conflicts of value. Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule that's no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but they fail. Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for everything. Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of aesthetic are my base. I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure that I always obey my rule. Bestg wishes, Tran Ba Thien tranbathien at gmail.com -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/55eea64b/attachment.html From xoaixanhchammuoi at yahoo.com Thu May 10 08:08:33 2007 From: xoaixanhchammuoi at yahoo.com (Nguyen Hai Thanh) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Vnbiz] Project introducing young expatriates to Vietnam !! In-Reply-To: <883653.16513.qm@web31009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <64904.83355.qm@web62402.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear Chi Nga, I'm so glad to receive your reply. As the foreign interns introduced to Vietnam are supposed to get prior training, the Vietnamese students abroad that you've mentioned will be very helpful with our training with Vietnamese interns sent abroad. As we move to the phase of training Vietnamese interns, I would love to ask more support from them :D At the moment, we will have several learning events this May-end on Japanese business culture. I'd love that there are some volunteers learning in Japan back to Vietnam this time. If those are available, hope that you can inform me early. Moreover, our committee in HCM is now doing the training so hope that you can also give me some add in Saigon. I'm really excited about your idead because these students can provide us really fresh and pratical experiences !! Hopefully we can do something to help some Vietnamese youngsters turn their dreams of working and living abroad into reality :) See you then ! Best regards, Hai Thanh 0983359186 Nguyen Thi Phuong Nga wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Thanh oi, I am interested in your project but not in getting expartriate to some company. I wonder if you need some Vietnamese students from abroad to help you to help expartriates in your program on volunteer basics during their summer holidays in VN. Thanks for your soonest response. Cheers Nguyen Thi Phuong Nga Ministry of Agriculture and Rural DEvelopment --- Nguyen Hai Thanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear CACC, > This is the first time I raise a topic myself > instead of giving comments on CACC's news so I feel > pretty strange :D As I'm working on a project which > brings down potential young expatriates, especially > the Japanese to companies in Vietnam, I would like > to tell CACC more about our project. > > I am now a member of AIESEC International Students > Organization, whose corework is Internship Program - > giving young people chances to work on an internship > abroad. Though some of you have never heard of it > before, I can say that it's the biggest students > organization in terms of members and > partners/clients. Its theme is to help youngsters to > experience living globally either through cultural > exchange or internship in another country. Also it > helps to develop the students' cultural sensitivity > and also leadership skills through numerous > leadership positions. > > Currently, we have local committees in Hanoi and > Saigon. Our main project is Japan bridge - which > focus on bringing Japanese youngsters to companies > in Vietnam which require talented Japanese HR and > Vietnamese interns to companies in Japan as well. > Moreover, we also introduce interns of over 100 > nationalities worldwide (AIESEC is now operating in > more than 100 countries) on demand. Consequently, I > would be grateful if CACC can make it more widely > known about our project. Also if the company CACC > are working in is now requiring expatriates in > short-term ranging from 2 months to 1.5 years, > please let me know and I can meet you anytime to > give you a brief introduction about our project. > > I am looking forward to your reply. > > Best regards, > NGUYEN THI HAI THANH > Foreign Trade University > 098 335 9186 > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss an email again! > Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail > arrives. Check it out.> _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at > http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/38550f81/attachment-0001.html From tranbathien at gmail.com Thu May 10 10:25:38 2007 From: tranbathien at gmail.com (Tran Ba Thien) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:25:38 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com><001201c792c7$509b4a10$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Message-ID: <001b01c79328$3f635d80$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Dear brother hoanh and CACC, look at brood hens with her children. In Vietnam, sometime, they give duck eggs to brood hens. The hens doesn't know the change. Even, after hatching, she takes care of her ducks children with no mind. They explain that taking care function of animal seems like natural programme. We can install the programme into their mind and also can uninstall it. It takes from 3 to 5 generation for installing. After 1975, my parent moved to rural area and did farming. We took some "ga cong nghieP industrial chicken from Saigon to the new land. First we used vietnamese hens to brood their eggs. You know, industrial chicken don't know how to incubat. After 3 generation, the new hens knew how to brood and to take care of her children. The hens has no choice for taking or not taking care of her children. It's just a programme. But human mother is quite different. Human mother has full right to say yes or no in taking care of her children. In some cases, mothers sale their young children for money, for social position and etc. Many mothers abandon their young kids everyday. I don't think human value can compare with animal habit. The difference between the 2 creatures are from mind and mindless.Animal habit is mindless. Human value is quite mindful. Around 10 days ago, brother Hoanh said smuggling businessman could not be good father. I wonder what we will treat his children. Do we seperate him away off his children because he may contaminate his children minds. No it's very labeling. Can we put his children into prison with him? No it's discriminated. In the next 20 years, if there was smuggled goods on the streets, Could we focus on the children of the old smuggling man? No, It's never. For my oppinion, I will talk loudly to everyone that we should give his children good education and equal opportunity. In the next 20 years, they will become good person for our future society. Then softly, I talk to my children that I don't want to see his children in my house. They cannot be my children's friends. It's cruel and rude. But it's true. Tran Ba Thien tranbathien at gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tran Dinh Hoanh To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values [ Vietnam Business Forum ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Brother Thien & CACC, If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, and many of them are similar to human rules, such as parents taking care of children and defending the children, children loving parents, each animal holding a specific job in a group, united against common enemies, taking care of the old and the weak, etc. So obviously there are social rules even before [human] social consciousness develops. And these rules are not man-made. We can call them natural law or whatever, but certainly they are not man-made. But of course, we human develop our societies and our values to a much more complex level through socilization and learning. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/10/07, Tran Ba Thien wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear CACC From the question: Values, are we born with them? In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those children could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded that value was not from natural but socialized. Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect from you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your social role. IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family members expect that she would marry good man. The values of that good man in the mind of her family are handsom, good education, good job, good personality and etc. What happens when she loves an old and poor man, who is older than her over 30 years? What happens when she loves someone, who is less than her 12 years? her family members never expect for those. Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young lady above, when she loves someone that her family members don't expect for the love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, personal freedom, she respects the values of love, she must overcome her family barrier to reach to that value.But if she thinks the value of her birth family is the highest, she must painfully follow her family and deny the unexpecting love. it's not her sacrify for the value but only her choice. for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from learning. You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. in a room without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. You see the fact then you don't want to smoke here even you are desired for smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed everywhere, you would not pay attention for if any smoke or not. You would smoke whenever you like. Smoking at right place is value of today personality.Why is it up today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? Because today people expect you to perform the value and because you want to keep the value. Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values without any assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they are very good. But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say Confucius standards may bring better living quality. Some disagree. They argue that bad leaders use the unmeasurable standards of Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view say life is constituted on many opposite sides. It's really a big confuse for us to take a choice especially in value conflicts. In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good is something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and promote spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot be beautiful. It may be beautiful when the author shows out living creature is trying to rise up through out the death. In daily living, it's hard to seperate which is good and which is beauty. The 2 things mix together in our activities. When you give food to someone, the activity supports their life and it raises your heart up too. For my experience, I always use the 2 values as basic values to judge other values in order to take options. Yes, it's not easy to take decision in conflicts of value. Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule that's no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but they fail. Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for everything. Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of aesthetic are my base. I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure that I always obey my rule. Bestg wishes, Tran Ba Thien tranbathien at gmail.com -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070511/97a29725/attachment-0001.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Thu May 10 14:07:20 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 17:07:20 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <001b01c79328$3f635d80$0a00000a@BATHIEN> References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> <001201c792c7$509b4a10$0a00000a@BATHIEN> <001b01c79328$3f635d80$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Message-ID: Dear Brothers Thien, Phong & CACC, I am not sure I fully understand the point brothers Phong and Thien are trying to make. Of course, generally, we know that animal habits don't change and human values change more often. But there are things appear to be unchanged in both animal and human (Note: After all, human is just another animal, an intelligent animal. That's all). What I say is that "Love your parent" is not a human invention. It is there, in all animals, including the intelligent animal that we call "human." We can call that "value" or "habit" or "genetic programming" or "natural instinct" or whatever. The fact is: All animals, including homo sapien, love their parents. We don't need to a law book to know that. We don't need to go to school to learn that either. We are born to love our parents instinctively. It comes natural. That is the basic of the "natural law" theory. That's all I am trying to explain. Many of the human laws are not human invention. We already have them naturally from the beginning of time, and have followed them naturally, probably as a natural instinct. Later as we develop social consciousness, we write them down into rules of law: Love your parents; protect the children, the old and the weak; work for your food, etc. Of course, while animals do not develop anything more than these "natural instincts" of loving their parents, we humans go much further to develop other values such as gender equality, or privacy, etc. We don't have to buy the natural law theory if we don't want to. But it is wrong to say that all human values are human invention. That is simply not true. If we define "value" as something we have to be conscious of, otherwise it is only a "natural instinct" and not "value," then that is only a matter of word play. It doesn't change the fact that the most fundamental human rules of law are not human invention. That is where the natural law theory comes in. Of course, human values may change constantly, and the natural law theory does NOT assume that human values do not change, as brother Phong may have alluded to. The natural law theory only means that there are a number (not all, just a number) of human laws that come naturally with human life and that are not a part of the human invention. Have a great day! Hoanh On 5/10/07, Tran Ba Thien wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear brother hoanh and CACC, > > look at brood hens with her children. In Vietnam, sometime, they give duck > eggs to brood hens. The hens doesn't know the change. Even, after hatching, > she takes care of her ducks children with no mind. They explain that taking > care function of animal seems like natural programme. We can install the > programme into their mind and also can uninstall it. It takes from 3 to 5 > generation for installing. > > After 1975, my parent moved to rural area and did farming. We took some > "ga cong nghieP industrial chicken from Saigon to the new land. First we > used vietnamese hens to brood their eggs. You know, industrial chicken don't > know how to incubat. After 3 generation, the new hens knew how to brood and > to take care of her children. > > The hens has no choice for taking or not taking care of her children. It's > just a programme. But human mother is quite different. Human mother has full > right to say yes or no in taking care of her children. In some cases, > mothers sale their young children for money, for social position and etc. > Many mothers abandon their young kids everyday. > > I don't think human value can compare with animal habit. The difference > between the 2 creatures are from mind and mindless.Animal habit is > mindless. Human value is quite mindful. > > Around 10 days ago, brother Hoanh said smuggling businessman could not be > good father. I wonder what we will treat his children. Do we seperate him > away off his children because he may contaminate his children minds. No it's > very labeling. Can we put his children into prison with him? No it's > discriminated. In the next 20 years, if there was smuggled goods on the > streets, Could we focus on the children of the old smuggling man? No, It's > never. > > For my oppinion, I will talk loudly to everyone that we should give his > children good education and equal opportunity. In the next 20 years, they > will become good person for our future society. Then softly, I talk to my > children that I don't want to see his children in my house. They cannot be > my children's friends. > > It's cruel and rude. But it's true. > Tran Ba Thien > tranbathien at gmail.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tran Dinh Hoanh > *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net > *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:18 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > ------------------------------ > > Dear Brother Thien & CACC, > > If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, and many of > them are similar to human rules, such as parents taking care of children and > defending the children, children loving parents, each animal holding a > specific job in a group, united against common enemies, taking care of the > old and the weak, etc. So obviously there are social rules even before > [human] social consciousness develops. And these rules are not man-made. > We can call them natural law or whatever, but certainly they are not > man-made. > > But of course, we human develop our societies and our values to a much > more complex level through socilization and learning. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > > On 5/10/07, Tran Ba Thien wrote: > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > > > > > Dear CACC > > > > From the question: Values, are we born with them? > > > > In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with > > animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those children > > could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded that value was > > not from natural but socialized. > > > > Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect from > > you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your social role. > > IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family members expect that she > > would marry good man. The values of that good man in the mind of her family > > are handsom, good education, good job, good personality and etc. What > > happens when she loves an old and poor man, who is older than her over 30 > > years? What happens when she loves someone, who is less than her 12 years? > > her family members never expect for those. > > > > Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. > > Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young lady > > above, when she loves someone that her family members don't expect for the > > love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, personal freedom, > > she respects the values of love, she must overcome her family barrier to > > reach to that value.But if she thinks the value of her birth family is > > the highest, she must painfully follow her family and deny the unexpecting > > love. it's not her sacrify for the value but only her choice. > > > > for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from > > learning. You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. > > in a room without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. You > > see the fact then you don't want to smoke here even you are desired for > > smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed everywhere, you > > would not pay attention for if any smoke or not. You would smoke whenever > > you like. Smoking at right place is value of today personality.Why is it > > up today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? Because today people expect you to > > perform the value and because you want to keep the value. > > > > Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. > > Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. > > > > Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on > > the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values without any > > assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they are very > > good. But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say Confucius standards > > may bring better living quality. Some disagree. They argue that bad leaders > > use the unmeasurable standards of Confucius for their dominant. Relativist > > view say life is constituted on many opposite sides. It's really a big > > confuse for us to take a choice especially in value conflicts. > > > > In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good is > > something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and promote > > spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot be beautiful. > > It may be beautiful when the author shows out living creature is trying to > > rise up through out the death. In daily living, it's hard to seperate which > > is good and which is beauty. The 2 things mix together in our activities. > > When you give food to someone, the activity supports their life and it > > raises your heart up too. For my experience, I always use the 2 values as > > basic values to judge other values in order to take options. Yes, it's not > > easy to take decision in conflicts of value. > > > > Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every > > case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule that's > > no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but they fail. > > Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for everything. > > Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of aesthetic are my base. > > I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure that I always obey my rule. > > > > Bestg wishes, > > > > > > Tran Ba Thien > > tranbathien at gmail.com > > -- > > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > > Washington DC > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070510/22818792/attachment.html From shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Thu May 10 14:40:05 2007 From: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com (Shane Wall) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 04:40:05 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46439135.8080506@translingualexpress.com> Hi anh Phong, I agree with you in part, but also disagree in parts. I think there is a place for the "animal" part of Homo Sapiens in the way we conduct ourselves culturally, socially and politically. The philosophy of separation between humans and "animals" which I have, is one that I learned from my Grandmother. She was a simple farmer's wife in a very inhospitable region of Australia. Her 15 pregnancies blessed her with 12 children. She was not only the Mother to this "tribe", but their mentor and guide through life. In one of the most harshest farming places in Australia, her strength, nurturing and wisdom has enabled her family to now number over 300 people making their own way in the world. Me included. So what, you may rightly ask. The simple fact is that her philosophy was that up until about 3 years of age (depending upon the maturation period of the species), human and animal babies (Grandma was referring to dogs, horses, oxen and other "domesticated" animals - she once had a pet pig that behaved more like a dog - before it got eaten!) should be treated the same. Quote: "They're all stupid until they know their own rules." Unquote For me it is about "knowing the rules". For others it has a different name. Of course it is a big question, but a baby human who is only 1 minute old is still very much an "animal" in the biological sense. We are all animals, it is how we choose to use the power of reasoning not shared by our fellow animals that sets us apart. If I am wrong, please tell me. Shane ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Shane Wall Principal, Trans Lingual Express 120/14 Mai Thi Luu St, P. Dakao, Q.1, HCMC, Vietnam Mail: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Web: www.translingualexpress.com Mbl: +84 (090) 9484 753 - Tel: +84 (8) 820 9143 Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > I don't think animal pecking orders and human values can be put in the > same basket. In the animal world (and some human societies), the > primary law is survival of the fittest, modified by survival of the > species when the weaker young are protected. There is no taking care > of the old and infirmed. The worker ants slave away all day long > because that is its specific job. Some people of the age of slavery > not so long ago holds the value that it is natural for blacks to be > slaves because they are designed to be so. It took a great civil war > and a long time to change that set of values. In India, where the > caste system existed, some human are considered untouchables. But > that is also changing. Human values evolve, animal's rules do not. HPP > > > > *"Tran Dinh Hoanh" * > Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com > > 05/10/2007 08:18 AM > Please respond to > vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > > > To > vnbiz at vietlinks.net > cc > > Subject > Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values > > > > > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > Dear Brother Thien & CACC, > > If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, and > many of them are similar to human rules, such as parents taking care > of children and defending the children, children loving parents, each > animal holding a specific job in a group, united against common > enemies, taking care of the old and the weak, etc. So obviously there > are social rules even before [human] social consciousness develops. > And these rules are not man-made. We can call them natural law or > whatever, but certainly they are not man-made. > > But of course, we human develop our societies and our values to a much > more complex level through socilization and learning. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > > On 5/10/07, *Tran Ba Thien* <_tranbathien at gmail.com_ > > wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC > > From the question: Values, are we born with them? > > In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with > animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those > children could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded > that value was not from natural but socialized. > > Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect > from you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your > social role. IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family > members expect that she would marry good man. The values of that good > man in the mind of her family are handsom, good education, good job, > good personality and etc. What happens when she loves an old and poor > man, who is older than her over 30 years? What happens when she loves > someone, who is less than her 12 years? her family members never > expect for those. > > Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. > Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young > lady above, when she loves someone that her family members don't > expect for the love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, > personal freedom, she respects the values of love, she must overcome > her family barrier to reach to that value.But if she thinks the value > of her birth family is the highest, she must painfully follow her > family and deny the unexpecting love. it's not her sacrify for the > value but only her choice. > > for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from > learning. You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. > in a room without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. > You see the fact then you don't want to smoke here even you are > desired for smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed > everywhere, you would not pay attention for if any smoke or not. You > would smoke whenever you like. Smoking at right place is value of > today personality.Why is it up today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? > Because today people expect you to perform the value and because you > want to keep the value. > > Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. > Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. > > Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on > the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values > without any assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they > are very good. But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say > Confucius standards may bring better living quality. Some disagree. > They argue that bad leaders use the unmeasurable standards of > Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view say life is constituted > on many opposite sides. It's really a big confuse for us to take a > choice especially in value conflicts. > > In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good > is something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and > promote spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot > be beautiful. It may be beautiful when the author shows out living > creature is trying to rise up through out the death. In daily living, > it's hard to seperate which is good and which is beauty. The 2 things > mix together in our activities. When you give food to someone, the > activity supports their life and it raises your heart up too. For my > experience, I always use the 2 values as basic values to judge other > values in order to take options. Yes, it's not easy to take decision > in conflicts of value. > > Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every > case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule > that's no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but > they fail. Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for > everything. Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of > aesthetic are my base. I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure > that I always obey my rule. > > Bestg wishes, > > > Tran Ba Thien_ > __tranbathien at gmail.com_ > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: shane.wall.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 305 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070511/ee41e538/attachment.vcf From shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Thu May 10 15:02:47 2007 From: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com (Shane Wall) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 05:02:47 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: References: <4badee940705090901q34bc612cl4f651d3341ab1c1f@mail.gmail.com> <001201c792c7$509b4a10$0a00000a@BATHIEN> <001b01c79328$3f635d80$0a00000a@BATHIEN> Message-ID: <46439687.1090201@translingualexpress.com> Anh Hoanh oi, Small point. I don't think the human animal is born to love its parents instinctively. I consider this to be a "nurture" contrived emotion. I think as babies we will attach ourselves to whoever or whatever will give us the best chance of survival - THAT is "Natural Law Theory" - or Darwinism, or Evolution or whatever! The ultimate truth is that the young of any species will actively seek succor from a foreign species if they come to consider that as the best option. Some may say international politics is the same! I may not have voiced this idea in the most eloquent way, but I know there are lots of scientists out there who can confirm this natural behavior in animals ... and let us not forget that in human societies we also raise other people's children! All for love and understanding, Shane ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Shane Wall Principal, Trans Lingual Express 120/14 Mai Thi Luu St, P. Dakao, Q.1, HCMC, Vietnam Mail: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Web: www.translingualexpress.com Mbl: +84 (090) 9484 753 - Tel: +84 (8) 820 9143 Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Dear Brothers Thien, Phong & CACC, > > > > I am not sure I fully understand the point brothers Phong and Thien > are trying to make. Of course, generally, we know that animal habits > don't change and human values change more often. But there are > things appear to be unchanged in both animal and human (Note: After > all, human is just another animal, an intelligent animal. That's all). > > > > What I say is that "Love your parent" is not a human invention. It is > there, in all animals, including the intelligent animal that we call > "human." We can call that "value" or "habit" or "genetic > programming" or "natural instinct" or whatever. The fact is: All > animals, including homo sapien, love their parents. We don't need to > a law book to know that. We don't need to go to school to learn that > either. We are born to love our parents instinctively. It comes > natural. > > > > That is the basic of the "natural law" theory. That's all I am trying > to explain. Many of the human laws are not human invention. We > already have them naturally from the beginning of time, and have > followed them naturally, probably as a natural instinct. Later as we > develop social consciousness, we write them down into rules of law: > Love your parents; protect the children, the old and the weak; work > for your food, etc. > > > > Of course, while animals do not develop anything more than these > "natural instincts" of loving their parents, we humans go much further > to develop other values such as gender equality, or privacy, etc. > > > > We don't have to buy the natural law theory if we don't want to. But > it is wrong to say that all human values are human invention. That > is simply not true. > > > > If we define "value" as something we have to be conscious of, > otherwise it is only a "natural instinct" and not "value," then that > is only a matter of word play. It doesn't change the fact that the > most fundamental human rules of law are not human invention. That is > where the natural law theory comes in. > > > > Of course, human values may change constantly, and the natural law > theory does NOT assume that human values do not change, as brother > Phong may have alluded to. The natural law theory only means that > there are a number (not all, just a number) of human laws that come > naturally with human life and that are not a part of the human invention. > > > > Have a great day! > > > > Hoanh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/10/07, *Tran Ba Thien* > wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear brother hoanh and CACC, > > look at brood hens with her children. In Vietnam, sometime, they > give duck eggs to brood hens. The hens doesn't know the change. > Even, after hatching, she takes care of her ducks children with no > mind. They explain that taking care function of animal seems like > natural programme. We can install the programme into their mind > and also can uninstall it. It takes from 3 to 5 generation for > installing. > > After 1975, my parent moved to rural area and did farming. We took > some "ga cong nghieP industrial chicken from Saigon to the new > land. First we used vietnamese hens to brood their eggs. You know, > industrial chicken don't know how to incubat. After 3 generation, > the new hens knew how to brood and to take care of her children. > > The hens has no choice for taking or not taking care of her > children. It's just a programme. But human mother is quite > different. Human mother has full right to say yes or no in taking > care of her children. In some cases, mothers sale their young > children for money, for social position and etc. Many mothers > abandon their young kids everyday. > > I don't think human value can compare with animal habit. The > difference between the 2 creatures are from mind and > mindless.Animal habit is mindless. Human value is quite mindful. > > Around 10 days ago, brother Hoanh said smuggling businessman could > not be good father. I wonder what we will treat his children. Do > we seperate him away off his children because he may contaminate > his children minds. No it's very labeling. Can we put his children > into prison with him? No it's discriminated. In the next 20 years, > if there was smuggled goods on the streets, Could we focus on the > children of the old smuggling man? No, It's never. > > For my oppinion, I will talk loudly to everyone that we should > give his children good education and equal opportunity. In the > next 20 years, they will become good person for our future > society. Then softly, I talk to my children that I don't want to > see his children in my house. They cannot be my children's friends. > > It's cruel and rude. But it's true. > Tran Ba Thien > tranbathien at gmail.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tran Dinh Hoanh > *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net > *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:18 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion > of Values > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dear Brother Thien & CACC, > > If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, > and many of them are similar to human rules, such as parents > taking care of children and defending the children, children > loving parents, each animal holding a specific job in a group, > united against common enemies, taking care of the old and the > weak, etc. So obviously there are social rules even before > [human] social consciousness develops. And these rules are > not man-made. We can call them natural law or whatever, but > certainly they are not man-made. > > But of course, we human develop our societies and our values > to a much more complex level through socilization and learning. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > > On 5/10/07, *Tran Ba Thien* > wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC > > From the question: Values, are we born with them? > > In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who > lived with animals in forests and had no chance to meet > human society. Those children could not have human social > values. Psychologists concluded that value was not from > natural but socialized. > > Some sociologist say values are somethings that your > society expect from you and also somthing that you try to > reach in performing your social role. IE. there is a young > lady. Her parent and her family members expect that she > would marry good man. The values of that good man in the > mind of her family are handsom, good education, good job, > good personality and etc. What happens when she loves an > old and poor man, who is older than her over 30 years? > What happens when she loves someone, who is less than her > 12 years? her family members never expect for those. > > Besides the expectation from others, values is what you > try to reach. Sometime value is your painful trial. Back > to the story of the young lady above, when she loves > someone that her family members don't expect for the love > values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, > personal freedom, she respects the values of love, she > must overcome her family barrier to reach to that > value.But if she thinks the value of her birth family is > the highest, she must painfully follow her family and deny > the unexpecting love. it's not her sacrify for the value > but only her choice. > > for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization > and from learning. You learn values in class and in > interaction to people. I.E. in a room without the sign of > "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. You see the fact > then you don't want to smoke here even you are desired for > smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed > everywhere, you would not pay attention for if any smoke > or not. You would smoke whenever you like. Smoking at > right place is value of today personality.Why is it up > today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? Because today people > expect you to perform the value and because you want to > keep the value. > > Values are born in socializing process and social > developing process. Values help stabilize society. No > value will link to no human society. > > Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have > no idea on the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving > traditional values without any assessments. I.E. nhan, le, > nghia, tri, tin, some say they are very good. But other > say no, they aren't quite good. Some say Confucius > standards may bring better living quality. Some disagree. > They argue that bad leaders use the unmeasurable standards > of Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view say life > is constituted on many opposite sides. It's really a big > confuse for us to take a choice especially in value > conflicts. > > In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is > beauty. Good is something support physical life. beauty is > something enhance and promote spiritual life. Picture with > only blood and death body cannot be beautiful. It may be > beautiful when the author shows out living creature is > trying to rise up through out the death. In daily living, > it's hard to seperate which is good and which is beauty. > The 2 things mix together in our activities. When you give > food to someone, the activity supports their life and it > raises your heart up too. For my experience, I always use > the 2 values as basic values to judge other values in > order to take options. Yes, it's not easy to take decision > in conflicts of value. > > Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every > body, every case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have > tried to find a rule that's no matter of time, of culture, > of place of everything else. but they fail. Therefore > Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for everything. > Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of > aesthetic are my base. I use the verb "seem" because I am > not sure that I always obey my rule. > > Bestg wishes, > > > Tran Ba Thien > tranbathien at gmail.com > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: shane.wall.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 317 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070511/cbd3db1e/attachment.vcf From trong.dan at vietcapital.vn Thu May 10 18:33:57 2007 From: trong.dan at vietcapital.vn (Dan Vietcapital) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:33:57 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Project introducing young expatriates to Vietnam !! In-Reply-To: <418634.3417.qm@web62407.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070511013410.9AF94125183@tin.le.org> Hi Hai Thanh, Our firm has an internship scheme to expatriates who have background in finance, investment, sales and marketing. The term of internship is 6 months with limited living allowance. Information about our firm can be found at www.vietcapital.vn Thanks and regards, Dan _____ From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of Nguyen Hai Thanh Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:29 PM To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: [Vnbiz] Project introducing young expatriates to Vietnam !! Dear CACC, This is the first time I raise a topic myself instead of giving comments on CACC's news so I feel pretty strange :D As I'm working on a project which brings down potential young expatriates, especially the Japanese to companies in Vietnam, I would like to tell CACC more about our project. I am now a member of AIESEC International Students Organization, whose corework is Internship Program - giving young people chances to work on an internship abroad. Though some of you have never heard of it before, I can say that it's the biggest students organization in terms of members and partners/clients. Its theme is to help youngsters to experience living globally either through cultural exchange or internship in another country. Also it helps to develop the students' cultural sensitivity and also leadership skills through numerous leadership positions. Currently, we have local committees in Hanoi and Saigon. Our main project is Japan bridge - which focus on bringing Japanese youngsters to companies in Vietnam which require talented Japanese HR and Vietnamese interns to companies in Japan as well. Moreover, we also introduce interns of over 100 nationalities worldwide (AIESEC is now operating in more than 100 countries) on demand. Consequently, I would be grateful if CACC can make it more widely known about our project. Also if the company CACC are working in is now requiring expatriates in short-term ranging from 2 months to 1.5 years, please let me know and I can meet you anytime to give you a brief introduction about our project. I am looking forward to your reply. Best regards, NGUYEN THI HAI THANH Foreign Trade University 098 335 9186 _____ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070511/84e2ddeb/attachment.html From Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov Fri May 11 10:29:43 2007 From: Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov (Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:29:43 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <46439135.8080506@translingualexpress.com> Message-ID: Hi anh Shane: I don't see where we disagree. Of course you can't held a baby up to the same standard of behavior as a grown up. The difference is that under normal circumstances, a human young will still be cared for even if it doesn't mature "on schedule", as in the case of retarded development. Your grandmother did well in propagating your lineage, even if she had to go against the natural instinct of self preservation/survival at times in producing and nurturing 15 offsprings. Best, HPP Shane Wall Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 05/10/2007 05:40 PM Please respond to vnbiz at vietlinks.net To vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc Subject Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Hi anh Phong, I agree with you in part, but also disagree in parts. I think there is a place for the "animal" part of Homo Sapiens in the way we conduct ourselves culturally, socially and politically. The philosophy of separation between humans and "animals" which I have, is one that I learned from my Grandmother. She was a simple farmer's wife in a very inhospitable region of Australia. Her 15 pregnancies blessed her with 12 children. She was not only the Mother to this "tribe", but their mentor and guide through life. In one of the most harshest farming places in Australia, her strength, nurturing and wisdom has enabled her family to now number over 300 people making their own way in the world. Me included. So what, you may rightly ask. The simple fact is that her philosophy was that up until about 3 years of age (depending upon the maturation period of the species), human and animal babies (Grandma was referring to dogs, horses, oxen and other "domesticated" animals - she once had a pet pig that behaved more like a dog - before it got eaten!) should be treated the same. Quote: "They're all stupid until they know their own rules." Unquote For me it is about "knowing the rules". For others it has a different name. Of course it is a big question, but a baby human who is only 1 minute old is still very much an "animal" in the biological sense. We are all animals, it is how we choose to use the power of reasoning not shared by our fellow animals that sets us apart. If I am wrong, please tell me. Shane ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Shane Wall Principal, Trans Lingual Express 120/14 Mai Thi Luu St, P. Dakao, Q.1, HCMC, Vietnam Mail: shane.wall at translingualexpress.com Web: www.translingualexpress.com Mbl: +84 (090) 9484 753 - Tel: +84 (8) 820 9143 Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > I don't think animal pecking orders and human values can be put in the > same basket. In the animal world (and some human societies), the > primary law is survival of the fittest, modified by survival of the > species when the weaker young are protected. There is no taking care > of the old and infirmed. The worker ants slave away all day long > because that is its specific job. Some people of the age of slavery > not so long ago holds the value that it is natural for blacks to be > slaves because they are designed to be so. It took a great civil war > and a long time to change that set of values. In India, where the > caste system existed, some human are considered untouchables. But > that is also changing. Human values evolve, animal's rules do not. HPP > > > > *"Tran Dinh Hoanh" * > Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com > > 05/10/2007 08:18 AM > Please respond to > vnbiz at vietlinks.net > > > > To > vnbiz at vietlinks.net > cc > > Subject > Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values > > > > > > > > > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > Dear Brother Thien & CACC, > > If we watch animal groups, they have their own law and orders, and > many of them are similar to human rules, such as parents taking care > of children and defending the children, children loving parents, each > animal holding a specific job in a group, united against common > enemies, taking care of the old and the weak, etc. So obviously there > are social rules even before [human] social consciousness develops. > And these rules are not man-made. We can call them natural law or > whatever, but certainly they are not man-made. > > But of course, we human develop our societies and our values to a much > more complex level through socilization and learning. > > Have a great day! > > Hoanh > > > On 5/10/07, *Tran Ba Thien* <_tranbathien at gmail.com_ > > wrote: > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear CACC > > From the question: Values, are we born with them? > > In 20th century, psychologists gave cases of children, who lived with > animals in forests and had no chance to meet human society. Those > children could not have human social values. Psychologists concluded > that value was not from natural but socialized. > > Some sociologist say values are somethings that your society expect > from you and also somthing that you try to reach in performing your > social role. IE. there is a young lady. Her parent and her family > members expect that she would marry good man. The values of that good > man in the mind of her family are handsom, good education, good job, > good personality and etc. What happens when she loves an old and poor > man, who is older than her over 30 years? What happens when she loves > someone, who is less than her 12 years? her family members never > expect for those. > > Besides the expectation from others, values is what you try to reach. > Sometime value is your painful trial. Back to the story of the young > lady above, when she loves someone that her family members don't > expect for the love values. If she thinks love is her personal choice, > personal freedom, she respects the values of love, she must overcome > her family barrier to reach to that value.But if she thinks the value > of her birth family is the highest, she must painfully follow her > family and deny the unexpecting love. it's not her sacrify for the > value but only her choice. > > for my oppinion, I accept values are from socialization and from > learning. You learn values in class and in interaction to people. I.E. > in a room without the sign of "no smoking", no one smoke at the room. > You see the fact then you don't want to smoke here even you are > desired for smoking now. But 30 years ago, when smoking was allowed > everywhere, you would not pay attention for if any smoke or not. You > would smoke whenever you like. Smoking at right place is value of > today personality.Why is it up today but not in 30 or 50 years ago? > Because today people expect you to perform the value and because you > want to keep the value. > > Values are born in socializing process and social developing process. > Values help stabilize society. No value will link to no human society. > > Do value come from God? or any supernatural powers? I have no idea on > the issue. I disagree the idea of conserving traditional values > without any assessments. I.E. nhan, le, nghia, tri, tin, some say they > are very good. But other say no, they aren't quite good. Some say > Confucius standards may bring better living quality. Some disagree. > They argue that bad leaders use the unmeasurable standards of > Confucius for their dominant. Relativist view say life is constituted > on many opposite sides. It's really a big confuse for us to take a > choice especially in value conflicts. > > In aesthetic view, they define what is good and what is beauty. Good > is something support physical life. beauty is something enhance and > promote spiritual life. Picture with only blood and death body cannot > be beautiful. It may be beautiful when the author shows out living > creature is trying to rise up through out the death. In daily living, > it's hard to seperate which is good and which is beauty. The 2 things > mix together in our activities. When you give food to someone, the > activity supports their life and it raises your heart up too. For my > experience, I always use the 2 values as basic values to judge other > values in order to take options. Yes, it's not easy to take decision > in conflicts of value. > > Karl Mannheim said their was no rule for every time, every body, every > case. I'd like his idea. Many generations have tried to find a rule > that's no matter of time, of culture, of place of everything else. but > they fail. Therefore Mannheim went to his conclusion of no rule for > everything. Scientificly, I may say that it seems the 2 value of > aesthetic are my base. I use the verb "seem" because I am not sure > that I always obey my rule. > > Bestg wishes, > > > Tran Ba Thien_ > __tranbathien at gmail.com_ > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > [attachment "shane.wall.vcf" deleted by Hong-Phong Pho/MAC/ITA/USDOC] _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070511/c944c6e7/attachment.html From hdangthu at gmail.com Sat May 12 17:01:44 2007 From: hdangthu at gmail.com (huong dang thu) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 07:01:44 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: References: <46439135.8080506@translingualexpress.com> Message-ID: <4badee940705121701m198db2aey7e43b71f2cce5cc8@mail.gmail.com> Dear bro & sis, Thanks for your sharing about values. Please let me ask 1 more question for today: How can we know that we are possessing some values? It sounds like an unreasonable question. But I'm serious about this. For that Vietnamese culture is a very 'modest' culture. So that we have trend not to give compliment. (eg, my parents never tell me that I do sth good. Very frequently, I should realize if I'm good by myself). Luckily that my parents let me detect myself so that I learn from different communities that I have possess some value (that I can sing well, I can write well, I can be a good leader if I follow my kind heart). I think that I'm lucky. But many of my friends, Vietnamese students really don't know how good they are. When they answer the question "What is your abilities?", I bet that they would say "I don't have any ability". (though I usually find many abilities that they have). This will come to the result that we are not confident. And if we are not confident about ourselves, I think we will meet many of struggles, and the struggle may not come from the outside environment but from inside us first. So, to know that we are possessing some values is not easy, I think. Especially sometimes, the environment prevents us from showing these values. Eg: years ago, 'obedience' is a great value that most of parents expect from their children. The obedient child will be considered as wonderful child. Now, we expect our children to be creative, to 'think it different', to be 'crazy'. I believe that many of today obedient adult once were the very creative children. But in the days that everyone appreciates the 'obedience' value, how can they know that 'creativity' is also a great value that they should pursue? Some wondering, Nice weekend, bro &sis! HeO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070513/05b8984d/attachment-0001.html From tdhoanh at gmail.com Sun May 13 05:22:17 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 08:22:17 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Thu Huong is attending CIVIUS Youth Assembly in Scotland Message-ID: Dear CACC, Our sister Dang Thu Huong hdangthu at gmail.com has been selected to attend the 2007 CIVICUS Youth Assembly in Glasgow, Scotland this month, May 23-27, 2007. CIVICUS World Assembly http://www.civicusassembly.org/ is a forum for international civil society representatives to get together, exchange ideas, experiences and build strategies for a just world. Here is some thing from CIVIUS website: The next two World Assemblies will be held in Glasgow and will follow the common theme: "Acting Together for a Just World " a theme inspired by events leading up to the G8 Summit, which showed both the massive global commitment from ordinary citizens for a better and more just world, and the absolute necessity of continuing the struggle to achieve it.This theme will be explored through the central focus theme: "Accountability : Delivering Results". CIVICUS recognises that transparency and accountability are essential to good governance and the achievement of a 'Just World' About CIVICUS Youth Assembly: Following outcomes from the 2006 CIVICUS World Assembly, it was clear that there was a need for an international youth-led forum for debate and dialogue on issues from the perspective of young people that will feed into and inform the debate at future World Assemblies. Working in Partnership, Oxfam in Scotland and the Scottish Youth Parliament combined forces to set up a new initiative to develop a youth led education programme focusing on political, economic and social justice issues And the theme of Civicus youth assembly for this year is "*Accountability to the future generation".* CYA select 150 delegates from 90 countries over the world this year. And many of them are from the developing country like VN. Congratualtions, Thu Huong. Since day 1 in this family, you have shown great leadership and initiatives. You make us happy and proud. Enjoy the trip, sister. And tell us all about it afterward. Great day, THu Huong and all. Hoanh -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070513/304ebc70/attachment.html From httmail at gmail.com Sun May 13 10:22:44 2007 From: httmail at gmail.com (Hoang Thanh) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:22:44 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Thu Huong is attending CIVIUS Youth Assembly in Scotland In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulation Huong what are you planing to do in the Assembly, great oppotunity for you! "Report" for us, i wanna hear fr you. Good luck Thanh 2007/5/13, Tran Dinh Hoanh : > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear CACC, > > Our sister Dang Thu Huong hdangthu at gmail.com has been selected to attend > the 2007 CIVICUS Youth Assembly in Glasgow, Scotland this month, May 23-27, > 2007. > > CIVICUS World Assembly http://www.civicusassembly.org/ is a forum for > international civil society representatives to get together, exchange ideas, > experiences and build strategies for a just world. > > Here is some thing from CIVIUS website: The next two World Assemblies > will be held in Glasgow and will follow the common theme: "Acting Together > for a Just World " a theme inspired by events leading up to the G8 Summit, > which showed both the massive global commitment from ordinary citizens for a > better and more just world, and the absolute necessity of continuing the > struggle to achieve it.This theme will be explored through the central > focus theme: "Accountability : Delivering Results". CIVICUS recognises that > transparency and accountability are essential to good governance and the > achievement of a 'Just World' > > About CIVICUS Youth Assembly: > > Following outcomes from the 2006 CIVICUS World Assembly, it was clear that > there was a need for an international youth-led forum for debate and > dialogue on issues from the perspective of young people that will feed into > and inform the debate at future World Assemblies. > > Working in Partnership, Oxfam in Scotland and the Scottish Youth > Parliament combined forces to set up a new initiative to develop a youth led > education programme focusing on political, economic and social justice > issues > > And the theme of Civicus youth assembly for this year is "*Accountability > to the future generation".* CYA select 150 delegates from 90 countries > over the world this year. And many of them are from the developing country > like VN. > Congratualtions, Thu Huong. Since day 1 in this family, you have shown > great leadership and initiatives. You make us happy and proud. Enjoy the > trip, sister. And tell us all about it afterward. > > Great day, THu Huong and all. > > Hoanh > > > -- > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD > Washington DC > > _______________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at > vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net > Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz > Archive at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ > or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ > or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz > > -- Hoang Thanh Thanh Vietnam Digital Television VTC 8D Nguyen Thi Minh Khai- Q.1-TP.HCM Tel: (08) 9106476 Fax: (08) 911.1140 Cell: 090.333.77.46 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070514/6c3aef3c/attachment.html From a.ledieu at gmail.com Sun May 13 19:25:33 2007 From: a.ledieu at gmail.com (LeDieu Anh) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:25:33 +0700 Subject: [Vnbiz] Thu Huong is attending CIVIUS Youth Assembly in Scotland In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <741a234c0705131925s723ed683m43f78ed8090c7e0e@mail.gmail.com> Dear Thu Huong, Congratulations, Huong. I am so proud of you and so are your parents, particularly your mother. That is a good news for your mother on Mother's day. Cheers, Anh On 5/13/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > Dear CACC, > > Our sister Dang Thu Huong hdangthu at gmail.com has been selected to attend > the 2007 CIVICUS Youth Assembly in Glasgow, Scotland this month, May 23-27, > 2007. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070514/7a7ac741/attachment.html From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 14 04:26:18 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:26:18 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Thu Huong is attending CIVIUS Youth Assembly in Scotland Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B14F5259C@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> Huong, Congratulation for the selection. I think you will do a good job and have a lot of friends there. This will be an opportunity for you to apply your knowledge at a wider environment and testing your skills as a leader. Have a good time, Tai -----Original Message----- From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com]On Behalf Of LeDieu Anh Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:26 PM To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] Thu Huong is attending CIVIUS Youth Assembly in Scotland Dear Thu Huong, Congratulations, Huong. I am so proud of you and so are your parents, particularly your mother. That is a good news for your mother on Mother's day. Cheers, Anh On 5/13/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh < tdhoanh at gmail.com> wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear CACC, Our sister Dang Thu Huong hdangthu at gmail.com has been selected to attend the 2007 CIVICUS Youth Assembly in Glasgow, Scotland this month, May 23-27, 2007. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070514/6c595da0/attachment.html From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 14 04:52:39 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:52:39 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] China completes new power line to Vietnam Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41286@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> China completes new power line to Vietnam (Xinhua) 2007-05-13 16:40 KUNMING -- A new power transmission line designed to send electricity from Wenshan in southwest China to Ha Giang in Vietnam has been completed and put into service. It is the fifth power line to transfer electricity from China to Vietnam. The newly completed line is also the second 220-kilovolt power line to be constructed between China and Vietnam. The first one runs between Honghe in Yunnan and Lao Cai of Vietnam. Yunnan Power Grid signed an agreement over the sale of electricity between Wenshan and Ha Giang with its Vietnam counterpart last June. Construction inside China began last July, with an investment of 173 million yuan (21.63 million US dollars). The line extends 300 km, of which 170 km are inside China. According to the Yunnan Power Grid, the line is capable of sending one billion kwh of electricity a year, but power transmission in the first year of operation will be around 700 million kwh. Estimates provided by Vietnam show that the northern parts of the country will suffer a power shortage ranging from 200 million kwh to 1.2 billion kwh between 2007 and 2010. China has sold 1.84 billion kwh of electricity since September 2004, when China began to transmit power to Vietnam. From Tai.Phan at ed.gov Mon May 14 04:54:54 2007 From: Tai.Phan at ed.gov (Phan, Tai) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:54:54 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Vietnam's Phu Quoc island: Trip tips Message-ID: <4062487BDB6029428A763CAEF4E1FE5B0CF41287@wdcrobe2m03.ed.gov> TRAVELS WITH LONELY PLANET | VIETNAM TRAVELS WITH LONELY PLANET: Vietnam's Phu Quoc island A 30-mile-long, tear-shaped island is rimmed with untouched beaches. BY ROBERT REID Lonely Planet Related Content Vietnam's Phu Quoc island: Trip tips As I pulled my motorbike off the red-dirt path toward the beach, a kid jumped up from a hammock and two wrestling German shepherds looked up from the turquoise water. But for the family running the hut/restaurant here, and their giant servings of fresh squid, there was nothing but gold-sand beach for a few miles. And I was alone. Word spreads fast in Southeast Asia, so this scene will change. Vietnam's Phu Quoc island, just off the Mekong Delta coast, is already the new great hope for the ''next Phuket,'' a new Southeast Asian beach hub to supplement Thailand's overdeveloped ones. It's no Thailand, but that anything so stunning has been overlooked for so long is a shock. The mountainous 30-mile-long, tear-shaped island is rimmed with many untouched white- and gold-sand beaches. Until recently, it's been a quiet island of military outposts -- nearby Cambodia sometimes murmurs that the island should be theirs -- and the world's best nuoc mam (fermented fish sauce). Now there's talk of international flights, golf courses and casinos. THE COMING BOOM Phu Quoc is already starting to see a blip of the boom to come. During peak season (October to March), Vietnamese weekenders and a smattering of travelers-in-the-know check into the growing strip of mostly small bungalow resorts along Bai Truong beach (often called Long Beach), south of Duong Dong town, on the island's west side. Many visitors take diving or snorkeling trips, particularly good off the southern tip, or squid-fishing trips after dusk. Others just sit on the palm-backed beach, free from the Jet Ski noise you get at other Vietnamese beaches. It's certainly nice, yet just busy enough that you might have to wake early to get a thatch umbrella on the sand. A local told me about more remote beaches. ''Dai Beach is paradise, no people. You haven't been yet?'' So I rented a motorcycle and took off. I stopped first to pay respects at one of the many fish-sauce factories along a canal in Duong Dong. The staff, busy loading bottles onto a docked boat, laughed at my interest and let me wander freely in the tin-roof warehouse, where I climbed ladders to peer into massive barrels of putrid fermenting fish. The stuff stinks -- I didn't try it for a week afterward -- but is so good here that mainland and Thai fish-sauce makers sometimes slap ''Phu Quoc'' on their bottles to add market appeal. INTO THE JUNGLE I aired myself out on the ride east of town to a Jurassic Park-style gate about four miles east. Inside it led to a short, rocky path, which I took through a dense jungle -- alone but for the menacing shrieks of high-pitched bugs. After 15 minutes I reached Suoi Tranh, a 12-foot waterfall, good for a cool head dunk in the midday heat. One of the best remote beaches I heard about was Bai Sao (Star Beach), about a dozen miles south. I followed a bumpy side road off the paved road to a gorgeous curving stretch of white sand on the island's east side. I borrowed a lone beach restaurant's inner tube to float a bit and had some grilled fish before heading up the island's west side paths past fishing villages. The next day I headed to the island's mountainous north, where some beaches are hard to reach on four wheels. In humble Cua Can fishing village, seven miles north of Duong Dong, a shirtless man filled my gas tank by a canal. ''You're French?'' he asked. ''No, American.'' He repeated the same to another shirtless guy who had stopped, rubbing an elbow, to watch the scene. I crossed a three-foot-wide wood-plank bridge north of town and finally found that untouched gold-sand Dai Beach -- three miles long, with a lone friendly family serving seafood. Paradise (for now). And that's where I stayed for a while From tdhoanh at gmail.com Mon May 14 07:13:41 2007 From: tdhoanh at gmail.com (Tran Dinh Hoanh) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:13:41 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: <4badee940705121701m198db2aey7e43b71f2cce5cc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <46439135.8080506@translingualexpress.com> <4badee940705121701m198db2aey7e43b71f2cce5cc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Sis. Thu Huong & CACC, Superb question, Thu Huong. How do we know ourselves? And when the folks in authority focus more on blaming and punishment than in praising and encouragement. how does a person know what she is good at? Why our culture focuses more on blaming and punishing than on praising and encouraging is an interesting question. As we grow up, we hear the adults say things like "You shouldn't praise them, because they will become arrogant." I used to accept that explanation as a good explanation. But the damage of that kind of punishing behavior is so big. It really destroys the kid's confidence and stops him from developing his full potentials. I believe that such behavior comes from the fact that for thousands of years the Chinese dominated us, plus a hundred years of the French. These rulers did not want to treat us Vietnamese with dignity and did not want us to have any confidence in ourselves. So they constantly made us feel inferior and stupid. So they focused heavily on blaming and beating. And we just internalized such behavior and did the same thing to ourselves. This is the "abused-child syndrom." The potentials in each of us are like little little plants, and encouragement is like water. If we praise a person constantly and encourage that person constantly, regardless of whether he wins or loses in a game, his plants will grow into giant trees some day. If we keep harassing him for "doing bad," he will wither away. This is true in family, school and the work place. I am not saying that we should not have constructive criticism once in a while. But the ratios should be like this: At least 75 percent praising and at max 25 percent criticism is good. Less praising and more criticism than these ratios is bad for development, both personal and communal. If you want you kid to do well, praise them more often than criticising them. If you want your company to do well, praise your employees constantly and criticize them rarely. This issue is not only for the individual, it tremendously effects our national development. Great question, Thu Huong. Have a good day! Hoanh On 5/12/07, huong dang thu wrote: > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ] > > > > Dear bro & sis, > > > > Thanks for your sharing about values. > > > > Please let me ask 1 more question for today: How can we know that we are > possessing some values? > > > > It sounds like an unreasonable question. But I'm serious about this. For > that Vietnamese culture is a very 'modest' culture. So that we have trend > not to give compliment. (eg, my parents never tell me that I do sth good. > Very frequently, I should realize if I'm good by myself). Luckily that my > parents let me detect myself so that I learn from different communities that > I have possess some value (that I can sing well, I can write well, I can be > a good leader if I follow my kind heart). > > I think that I'm lucky. But many of my friends, Vietnamese students really > don't know how good they are. When they answer the question "What is your > abilities?", I bet that they would say "I don't have any ability". (though I > usually find many abilities that they have). > > This will come to the result that we are not confident. And if we are not > confident about ourselves, I think we will meet many of struggles, and the > struggle may not come from the outside environment but from inside us first. > > > > > So, to know that we are possessing some values is not easy, I think. > Especially sometimes, the environment prevents us from showing these values. > Eg: years ago, 'obedience' is a great value that most of parents expect from > their children. The obedient child will be considered as wonderful child. > Now, we expect our children to be creative, to 'think it different', to be > 'crazy'. I believe that many of today obedient adult once were the very > creative children. But in the days that everyone appreciates the 'obedience' > value, how can they know that 'creativity' is also a great value that they > should pursue? > > > > Some wondering, > > Nice weekend, bro &sis! > > HeO > > > -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070514/765c3c58/attachment.html From Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov Mon May 14 14:18:14 2007 From: Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov (Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:18:14 -0400 Subject: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear anh Hoanh et al. I don't think we can blame this on the Chinese or the French. The Japanese, Korean, and the Chinese themselves don't exactly have traditions of showering praises on their children either. In fact, even the European, most notably the British, are known to raise their children very sternly, with strong discipline. The West's "Spare the rod, spoil the child" is very much the same value as the East's "Thuong cho roi cho vot, ghet cho ngoc cho bui"! In my observation, the approach of more encouragement and less criticism is a relatively modern approach endemic to wealthier and more free societies in which there are more opportunities/career choices. Where choices and opportunities are more limited,and competition keener, parents will tend to be tougher on their children in a sometime misguided but always sincere effort to secure a more secure future for their children. Any observant Vietnamese child knows that he has his parent's love and support just by looking at what they do instead of listening to what they say. In fact Vietnames parents often praise their own kids behind their backs, if the neighbors don't do it first. Best, HPP "Tran Dinh Hoanh" Sent by: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 05/14/2007 10:13 AM Please respond to vnbiz at vietlinks.net To vnbiz at vietlinks.net cc Subject Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a Leader -- the Champion of Values [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear Sis. Thu Huong & CACC, Superb question, Thu Huong. How do we know ourselves? And when the folks in authority focus more on blaming and punishment than in praising and encouragement. how does a person know what she is good at? Why our culture focuses more on blaming and punishing than on praising and encouraging is an interesting question. As we grow up, we hear the adults say things like "You shouldn't praise them, because they will become arrogant." I used to accept that explanation as a good explanation. But the damage of that kind of punishing behavior is so big. It really destroys the kid's confidence and stops him from developing his full potentials. I believe that such behavior comes from the fact that for thousands of years the Chinese dominated us, plus a hundred years of the French. These rulers did not want to treat us Vietnamese with dignity and did not want us to have any confidence in ourselves. So they constantly made us feel inferior and stupid. So they focused heavily on blaming and beating. And we just internalized such behavior and did the same thing to ourselves. This is the "abused-child syndrom." The potentials in each of us are like little little plants, and encouragement is like water. If we praise a person constantly and encourage that person constantly, regardless of whether he wins or loses in a game, his plants will grow into giant trees some day. If we keep harassing him for "doing bad," he will wither away. This is true in family, school and the work place. I am not saying that we should not have constructive criticism once in a while. But the ratios should be like this: At least 75 percent praising and at max 25 percent criticism is good. Less praising and more criticism than these ratios is bad for development, both personal and communal. If you want you kid to do well, praise them more often than criticising them. If you want your company to do well, praise your employees constantly and criticize them rarely. This issue is not only for the individual, it tremendously effects our national development. Great question, Thu Huong. Have a good day! Hoanh On 5/12/07, huong dang thu wrote: [ Vietnam Business Forum ] Dear bro & sis, Thanks for your sharing about values. Please let me ask 1 more question for today: How can we know that we are possessing some values? It sounds like an unreasonable question. But I'm serious about this. For that Vietnamese culture is a very 'modest' culture. So that we have trend not to give compliment. (eg, my parents never tell me that I do sth good. Very frequently, I should realize if I'm good by myself). Luckily that my parents let me detect myself so that I learn from different communities that I have possess some value (that I can sing well, I can write well, I can be a good leader if I follow my kind heart). I think that I'm lucky. But many of my friends, Vietnamese students really don't know how good they are. When they answer the question "What is your abilities?", I bet that they would say "I don't have any ability". (though I usually find many abilities that they have). This will come to the result that we are not confident. And if we are not confident about ourselves, I think we will meet many of struggles, and the struggle may not come from the outside environment but from inside us first. So, to know that we are possessing some values is not easy, I think. Especially sometimes, the environment prevents us from showing these values. Eg: years ago, 'obedience' is a great value that most of parents expect from their children. The obedient child will be considered as wonderful child. Now, we expect our children to be creative, to 'think it different', to be 'crazy'. I believe that many of today obedient adult once were the very creative children. But in the days that everyone appreciates the 'obedience' value, how can they know that 'creativity' is also a great value that they should pursue? Some wondering, Nice weekend, bro &sis! HeO -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC _______________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, please contact admins at vnbizadmin at vietlinks.net Info at http://mail.saigon.com/mailman/listinfo/vnbiz Archive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vnbiz/ or http://groups-beta.google.com/group/VNBIZforum/ or http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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National consultant to support provinces in ??????Health care Fund for the Poor?????? activities 5. Translator/Interpreter 6. Planning consultant Remuneration is subject to negotiation. If anyone of you would like to have details of above positions, please feel free to contact our office: Ms. Phuc, Tel: 844-7262927 (ext. 16), Fax: 844-7262928. We would be grateful for any suggestions or referrals you can provide. All of you are welcomed. Sincerely, For and on behalf of Dr. Ha Van Thuy Le Hong Phuc Procurement Staff Health Care in the Central Highlands Project --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Ha Van Thuy ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "lstuddert at adb.org" To: "Axelson, Mr Henrik (VTN)" Cc: giovanni bentivegna ; christian.lien at foreign.ministry.se; Ha Van Thuy ; khoamoh at yahoo.com; kthuong at adb.org; longmoh at yahoo.com; phuclebr at yahoo.com; Bj?rn Ekman Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 2:47:12 PM Subject: Health economist consultants Dear Henrik, Welcome back! For the Health Care in Central Highlands Project of ADB and MOH we are struggling to find national health economists to serve as consultants and work with our international experts (Dr Govanni Bentivegna, recently arrived; and Dr Bjorn Ekman, to return for a two month period in a few weeks). This matter has now become extremely urgent and the PMU, led by Dr Thuy, will be making an urgent effort in the next two weeks to recruit someone - for a short or long period. We are willing to consider people of various amounts of experience - even newly graduated students, or graduate students that might combine some short-term inputs with study, but with a keen interest in the subject matter and good english would be considered. We are looking in the areas of health economics and primary health care. I wonder if you know of any good people, particularly in the area of health economics? We would be most grateful for any suggestions or referrals you can provide, best, lisa Lisa J. Studdert Health Specialist Viet Nam Resident Mission, Hanoi Asian Development Bank Tel (84-4) 933 1374, Ext. 102 www.adb.org -- Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD Washington DC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.saigon.com/pipermail/vnbiz/attachments/20070515/93777212/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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