[Vnbiz] Nha Trang Bay
Tuan Nguyen
diespiter at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 1 15:14:51 PDT 2007
> Finally, sorry to say that I do not know how we, VN citizens, can
> contribute to the sustainable development of our country.
> It is really interesting to hear your ideas a bout that.
You already are, assuming that you are gainfully employed (whether
within a company or running your own). I won't bore you with economic
theory and the "invisible hand" of the market
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand), which I'm sure you're
already aware of. Suffice it to say, as long as people are permitted
to seek their self-interest without too much undue burden, VN should
continue on its current trajectory of economic progress.
What can be done to improve it? Combat corruption, bureaucracy, and
contradictory regulations/laws and instead establish a clear rule of
law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law), i.e., no shady
under-the-table and arbitrary government actions. In other words,
reduce the transaction costs and uncertainly of the business
environment in VN. Only with a stable political and regulatory
framework will ecnomic progress be ensured. VN's ascension to the WTO
is one step toward that, but only time will tell if it will keep the
promises it has made to obtain that membership. If VN backtracks as it
did in the 90s, it can be sure to see the same exodus of foreign
investment as it saw back then. "Once bitten, twice shy." Twice
bitten, goodbye.
What can an individual VN citizen do? I'm not sure if it's practical
(or safe) in VN, but from a U.S. perspective, I'd say join or form
business groups that lobby the government for an open and clear
business environment. If it takes you two years to get some papers
stamped so you could run your business, chances are you won't be seeing
too much investment in your country. Even worse if legally valid
contracts aren't enforced by the VN courts. How can you do business if
basic international contract laws are not honored? Transaction costs
like those act as substantial barriers to entry.
As for anh Hoanh's questions:
> 1. Does Nha Trang has the right to withdraw itself from being a
World > Heritage site?
According to the UNESCO World Heritage List, Nha Trang is not a World
Heritage site, although VN does have 5 sites listed. Info at:
http://whc.unesco.org/pg.cfm?cid=31
> What if the central government in Hanoi says that Nha Trang cannot
> withdraw? Does the central government has that right?
This is a moot point given the above, but nevertheless this would
depend on how the VN constitution/law is structured. I'd guess the
national government would have the final say in this issue though, as
UNESCO is an international body and national governments generally
trump local governments in international affairs.
> 2. This guy in Nha Trang seems to think that environment
preservation
> hurts development. Does that make sense?
As my written Vietnamese skills are extremely limited I could not read
the article. But, tension between environmental preservation and
development will always exist, not only in VN but in other countries,
including the U.S., as well. The trick is to balance the two so as not
to harm either. Whatever society (or whoever is in charge) currently
values will determine the winner of the day. Over time it will change.
A good example of that is the current strength of environmentalism
(the "green movement") after decades of dormancy (at least in the
developed world).
My prediction is that VN, like many other developing countries, cannot
afford environmentalism and will therefore choose to forgo it in favor
of economic development. Over time this balance will shift as VN
becomes more affluent, but it is likely a long road.
Tuan
--- Mercedes Benz <myhometheatre at gmail.com> wrote:
> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>
> > Dear CACC,
>
> Both a. Duong and a. Thang are paritially correct (my opinion).
> Ithink it s
> not Khanh Hoa's issue here.It is the complicated problem for VNese
> government. Everyone knows money can be made but Heritage, nature ..
> hardly
> can. The first thought came to me is Khanh Hoa is such a ridiculous
> guy.
> really angry in mind. Yes, but think deeply raised out a bad sign of
> governance.
> "Co thuc moi vuc duoc dao". Despite the campaign for Vietnamese
> tourism, I
> think it has not gained an achievement as we expected. And Khanh Hoa
> has its
> own reason. However, does the decision of Khanh Hoa province help
> much the
> poor or only the rich? Big question I think.
>
> Regarding the a. Hoanh 1st question: I think Khanh Hoa absolutely do
> not
> have such right. And the government MUST have their own decision for
> which
> they are fully responsible. If the can not deal it appropriately,
> that will
> be the bad practice for other provinces. It will ruin our precious
> nature
> properties as well as culture and tradition. Money can be good excuse
> for
> all circumstances!
>
> Secondly, education, our education need boosting and reforming more
> and
> more. That is the key for our flourish and stable future.
>
> Finally, sorry to say that I do not know how we, VN citizens, can
> contribute
> to the sustainable development of our country.
>
> It is really interesting to hear your ideas a bout that.
>
> Best regards,
>
> On 5/26/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> > Dear CACC,
> >
> > Probably you have heard that Khanh Hoa authority was trying to do
> some
> > tourist develoment in Nha Trang Bay but the Ministry of Culture and
> > Information told it to stop because that would violate the World
> Heriatage
> > rules, Nha Trang Bay being a World Heritage site. Then, the
> vice-chairman
> > of Khanh Hoa's People's Committee was quoted as saying that Nha
> Trang should
> > request that its name be withdrawn from the World Heritage list.
> > (Previously, Khanh Hoa authorities had submitted a petition to have
> Vinh Nha
> > Trang named as a World Heritage and that petition had been
> approved) (Please
> > see VNEpxress article below).
> >
> > Here are some issues I would like to hear your opinion on:
> >
> > 1. Does Nha Trang has the right to withdraw itself from being a
> World
> > Heritage site? What if the central government in Hanoi says that
> Nha Trang
> > cannot withdraw? Does the central government has that right?
> >
> > 2. This guy in Nha Trang seems to think that environment
> preservation
> > hurts development. Does that make sense?
> > Please voice your opinion.
> >
> > Have a great day!
> >
> > Hoanh
> > _________________
> >
> >
> >
> > Thứ bảy, 26/5/2007, 10:59 GMT+7 [image: Bản ÃÂá» in]
> <http:///> [image:
> > Gá»Âi cho bạn bè] <http:///>
> >
> > 'Vá»Ânh Nha Trang không phải tài sản riêng cá»§a Khánh
> Hòa'
> >
> > Thứ trðá»Âng Bá» VÃÂn hóa Thông tin Trần Chiến Thắng
> cho rằng, tá»Ânh Khánh Hòa
> > không phải má»Ât vðáng quá»Âc, vàvá»Ânh Nha Trang không
> phải làtài sản riêng cá»§a
> > Khánh Hòa. Mô hình kinh tế - xã há»Âi thành công không
> bao giá» chấp nháºÂn phát
> > triá»Ân bằng má»Âi giá.
> > > 'Vá»Ânh Nha Trang ảnh hðá»Âng ÃÂến phát triá»Ân cá»§a
> Khánh
> Hòa'<http://www.vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2007/05/3B9F66E7/>/
> > Xin rút vá»Ânh Nha Trang khá»Âi danh thắng quá»Âc
> gia<http://www.vnexpress.net/Vietnam/Xa-hoi/2007/05/3B9F6633/>
> >
> > *- ÃÂng nghé gì nếu nhð ÃÂá»Âa phðáng chá»§ ÃÂá»Âng xin
> rút vá»Ânh Nha Trang khá»Âi
> > danh thắng quá»Âc gia? *
> >
> > Thứ trðá»Âng Trần Chiến Thắng. Ảnh: *Tuá»Âi Trẻ.*-
> Há» ÃÂã ÃÂá» nghá» ÃÂðợc công
> > nháºÂn thì há» cÃ
©ng hoàn toàn có thá» làm hành ÃÂá»Âng
> ngðợc lại. Chá» có ÃÂiá»Âu tôi
> > xin nói thẳng: có lẽ ÃÂây làngoại lá» duy nhất trên
> thế giá»Âi. Cả thế giá»Âi ÃÂá»Âu
> > ra sức phấn ÃÂấu bảo tá»Ân, tu bá»Â, gìn giữ vàtìm
> má»Âi cách váºÂn ÃÂá»Âng ÃÂá» danh lam
> > thắng cảnh, di sản cá»§a mình ÃÂðợc các tá» chức
> quá»Âc tế, quá»Âc gia có uy tÃÂn
> > công nháºÂn vàlàm tất cả ÃÂá» giữ ÃÂðợc danh hiá»Âu.
> Chá» có má»Ât mình Khánh Hòa
> > không làm thế.
> >
> > Tôi không trá»±c tiếp nghe lãnh ÃÂạo ÃÂá»Âa phðáng nào
> phát ngôn, nhðng tôi nghé
> > khi nói nhð váºÂy há» ÃÂã quên mất tá»Ânh làmá»Ât bá»Â
> pháºÂn cá»§a quá»Âc gia chứ không
> > phải má»Ât vðáng quá»Âc, vàvá»Ânh Nha Trang không phải lÃÂ
> tài sản riêng cá»§a Khánh
> > Hòa, màlàtài sản chung cá»§a quá»Âc gia, tháºÂm chàcá»§a
> toàn nhân loại.
> >
> > *- Nhiá»Âu lãnh ÃÂạo ÃÂá»Âa phðáng vànhàÃÂầu tð từng
> "kêu" rằng á» những vùng
> > "ÃÂụng ÃÂâu cÃ
©ng làdi tÃÂch" thì khó làm ÃÂn chứ nói
> gì ÃÂến phát triá»Ân. ÃÂng
> > ÃÂánh giá thế nào? *
> >
> > - Sao há» không thấy may mắn vì nðá»Âc ta có nhiá»Âu di
> tÃÂch? Chúng ta từng có
> > nhiá»Âu cảnh ÃÂẹp, di sản quàgiá, nhðng má»Ât thá»Âi gian
> dài không ÃÂðợc quan tâm
> > gìn giữ ÃÂúng mức nên ÃÂã bá» há»§y hoại nhiá»Âu. Bây
> giá» ÃÂã ÃÂến lúc phải cá» giữ
> > ná»Ât những gì còn lại.
> >
> > Mâu thuẫn giữa bảo tá»Ân vàphát triá»Ân làÃÂiá»Âu mÃÂ
> quá»Âc gia nào cÃ
©ng ÃÂã vÃÂ
> > ÃÂang gặp phải. Nhðng kinh nghiá»Âm cá»§a những mô hình
> kinh tế - xã há»Âi thành
> > công nhất cho thấy há» không bao giá» chấp nháºÂn phát
> triá»Ân bằng má»Âi giá. Phát
> > triá»Ân ÃÂá» môi trðá»Âng bá» há»§y hoại, ÃÂá» vùi lấp
> các giá trá» truyá»Ân thá»Âng, ÃÂá»Â
> > mình không còn làmình nữa thì phát triá»Ân làm gì?
> >
> > *- VáºÂy Bá» sẽ giải quyết ra sao khi nháºÂn ÃÂá» nghá»Â
> chÃÂnh thức xin rút vá»Ânh
> > Nha Trang khá»Âi danh sách danh thắng quá»Âc gia cá»§a UBND
> tá»Ânh Khánh Hòa? *
> >
> > - Nhð tôi ÃÂã nói á» trên, vì ÃÂây làmá»Ât viá»Âc chða
> há» có tiá»Ân lá»Â, vàvì vá»Ânh
> > Nha Trang không phải làtài sản riêng cá»§a Khánh Hòa
> nên Bá» sẽ cho ÃÂÃÂng báo
> > công bá» toàn bá» các thông tin trên vàsẽ má» diá»Â
n
> ÃÂàn thá»±c hiá»Ân trðng cầu ý
> > kiến toàn dân. Nhðng tôi vẫn hi vá»Âng Bá» không phải
> làm viá»Âc ÃÂó.
> > **
> >
> > *ÃÂng Paul Stoll - TGàCông ty Tð vấn Dá»Âch vụ Du lá»Âch
> Quá»Âc tế Celadon:
> > Khánh Hòa ÃÂừng vì lợi ÃÂch trðá»Âc mắt!*
> >
> > ÃÂng Paul Stoll. Ảnh: *Tuá»Âi Trẻ.*Tôi nghé chÃÂnh quyá»Ân
> tá»Ânh Khánh Hòa
> > ÃÂừng vì những lợi ÃÂch trðá»Âc mắt màquên ÃÂi má»Ât
> tiá»Âm nÃÂng chẳng phải nái nào
> > cÃ
©ng có thá» có ÃÂðợc. Trong quá trình phát triá»Ân,
> phải biết mình muá»Ân ÃÂạt
> > ÃÂðợc thành tá»±u gì trong tðáng lai.
> >
> > Nếu ÃÂã chá»Ân phát triá»Ân theo kế hoạch dài hái thì
> không thá» ngay láºÂp tức
> > thu ÃÂðợc lợi nhuáºÂn. Thành công trong kinh tế không
> chá» ÃÂo bằng sá» tiá»Ân mÃÂ
> > chÃÂnh quyá»Ân ÃÂó thu ÃÂðợc. ÃÂó còn làsá»± trong sạch
> cá»§a môi trðá»Âng sá»Âng, cuá»Âc
> > sá»Âng cá»§a ngðá»Âi dân hạnh phúc hán. Phát triá»Ân kinh
> tế thành công ÃÂá» làm gì
> > khi môi trðá»Âng sá»Âng càng trá» nên tá» hán? Nếu chá»Â
> táºÂp trung cho phát triá»Ân
> > kinh tế, liá»Âu có ÃÂảm bảo môi trðá»Âng vàcảnh quan
> cá»§a vá»Ânh Nha Trang sẽ tá»Ât
> > hán bây giá»Â?
> >
> > (Theo *Tuá»Âi Trẻ*)
> >
> > --
> > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
> > Washington DC
> >
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