[Vnbiz] Leadership -- A little more on Honesty

[ToanDucPham@GMail.com]

Dear Leadership-Debate Leaders:
Some of my wonderings:

   1. Would you, please, suggest for whom this wonderful List
   of Ideal-Leader's Characteristics would be good?  For the leaders who are
   trying to be better leaders?  Or for those who are trying to prepare to
   become leaders?  Or both?
   2. Are you, each, truthfully applying the mentioned agreed-upon
   Characteristics in leading this Debate?

Humbly,
Em Toan.




On 7/28/07, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com> wrote:

> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> Dear Brother Phong,
>
> Ethics (morality) is one of the subject that may open for all kinds of
> debates and arguments.  I have said in the previous message that our
> definition of ethics may differ sometimes.  (But that is also true with
> every thing else in the world).
>
> I think we should leave the debate on what exactly is ethical in some
> specific circumtances for another time, otherwise we will be so much off the
> original subject.  Let's us make note that there is a code of ethics for
> lawyers which is enforced very seriously by the Bar and the Court.  No funny
> business.  Just go to any website of any Bar Association in the US you will
> find how serious the code of ethics is enforced.
>
> BTW, many corporations have code of business ethics also.  There is also
> a code of ethics for doctors, accountants, engineers, etc.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Hoanh
>
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> On 7/27/07, Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov <Hong-Phong_Pho at ita.doc.gov >
> wrote:
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> > You cannot separate the leader from the system in which he leads.
> >  In a system of transparency and check & balance, leaders can make as
> > serious mistakes as anywhere else, but the effects of their mistakes are
> > easier to contain and reversed.
> > I knew I could get a rise (in this case two) out of anh Hoanh with the
> > lawyer example.
> > We all know that your chance of winning a case, even if you are guilty,
> > improves greatly if you have a "good" lawyer, or better yet, a great team of
> > lawyers.  And a "good" lawyer is one that wins.   Adhering strictly to the
> > Code of Ethics and being ethical aren't necessarily the same thing.  How
> > does the code of ethics address winning for a guilty client?  If it's the
> > system's fault, not the lawyer's fault, then a lawyer who successfully
> > defended an axe murderer is a good lawyer then?  One of the assumptions of
> > the adversarial system is lawyers on both sides are equally capable.  HPP
> >
> > --
> > Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
> > Washington DC
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