[Vnbiz] Leadership -- What are you looking for in your leader?

[Tran Dinh Hoanh]

Dear Brother Thien,

Thanks for trusting and asking.  I am glad you add a practical question.
The "how."

And I already gave you the answer, but it appears that you have missed my
answer:

The best way to practice leadership is to build an entity from ground zero
-- a company, an NGO, an association, a charity project, a group with a
common interest.  Give it birth, give it nourishment, make sure that it
grow into a big tree if not a giant.

How many times have you done that?

When you are comfortable that "my baby now is a real strong adult" you will
see that what I mentioned about core elements makes sense.

How do you practice to be father?  Answer:  Have a baby.

Brother Thien, please keep in mind that the ONLY way to really understand
any kind of art, be it music, painting, martial art, or leadership art, is
by doing it.  A bit of theory doesn't hurt, but theory doens't help much
either.

Good luck, brother.

Have a great day!

Hoanh

On 7/21/07, Tran Ba Thien <tranbathien at gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Dear anh Hoanh,
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> I don't think all teachers are lied.
>  I have no doubt that they compose the course syllabus of leadership
> training in very accademic ways. The goal of education is to provide
> knowledge, skills and attitude to people. How to apply the knowledge and how
> to achieve individual goals are not responsibility of education. We need to
> practice and need to achieve our individual goals by ourselves.
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> I think we can read some books about leadership then we can extract
> qualify core elements of leadership. Then you can see those core elements
> are the same with common personality. Those are the social values that
> people expect you to perform in order to be suitable to your role. No matter
> of being leader and being member, you need to perform those values.
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> I don't believe when they try to include those common personality elements
> as leadership core elements. In Lao Tsu and Confucious time, they called
> persons with qualify personality as righteous "nguoi quan tu". In that time,
> they supposed that "quan tu" could be or I should say would be able to be
> social leaders, public teachers and various high social status persons. (1)
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> I am not sure but I have heard about leadership training activities since
> about recent 20 years. Before 1975, there was school of command in Dalat for
> high officers of Saigon force. My uncle was a teacher of the school. Thus I
> ever read some teaching matterials of the school. I ever read "Binh Thu Yeu
> Luoc" by Tran Hung Dao and so on.
>  they focused on technology of managing. We call it competent. In the
> recent 20 years, they moved to leadership training activity. The goal is to
> build up leadership capacity. Besides some technology of managing like
> computer skills, book keeping skills and etc, they believe that first after
> obtaining leadership capacity you can be good leader. The core element of
> those leadership capacity is what I have said above, see (1).
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> As what I observe I believe that the method of training leadership is
> failed. Participants cannot apply perfectly what they have studied. That's
> why I call core elements of leadership are dead leaders, leaders of the
> past. We can workship him but cannot ask him to serve us again.
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> we need leader of the present and the leader of future. That's what we
> need. We don't know exactly how to meet the need. I just want to prove that
> using what I named as dead leader or leaders of the past is failed. I agree
> that we need to practice and practice. But I do nothing unless I understand
> the how.
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> Therefore, I wonder if there is a method of building leadership capacity
> or if there is no. Could you help me answer the question? It assumes that
> after obtaining the method talent persons can be qualify leaders. I
> understand that bro Hoanh has long time in studying the issue of leadership.
> I believe leadership is one of bro Hoanh's hobby. You are studying what
> people expect from leader. Could you study my question? Is there a method of
> building leadership capacity to talent person? Thanx and thanx a lot
>
> Tran Ba Thien
> tranbathien at gmail.com
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> Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
> Washington DC
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