[Vnbiz] Taking care of our students - in DC

Wed Jan 24 14:58:52 PST 2007

Huong,

No, sounds great.  Some may think overeducated but as long as the
electricity stays working I will, myself, continue educating myself.

Ok, without more specifics I would say this:

look at the BA and BS and see where that places you relevant to the current
and future happenings in Vietnam, its future growth economically.
MBA, assuming general, and not an MBA in Finance or something similar will
work in whatever industry.
The MA is then in Emerging Markets with a concentration in SEA.

Look at ADB, ASEAN, look at associations relative to the region and your BA
or BS because your MA specifies location and your MBA is universally
relevant.
Look at contracts being given on large scale projects, especially involving
the region and Vietnam in specific.

In other words if ASEAN or ADB, or other Treaty Org's that Vietnam is a
party to, and see what contracts have been given and to whom.  Then, match
your educational and work background to the contract and go after a position
with the contractor.
When I have time I will send you a note and see whatever else I can find.

Craig

On 1/24/07, huong luong <huongluongdc at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> anh Craig,
> I got an BA, a BS, an MBA and going to get an MA.....so what do you say?
> overeducated, right? :))
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> *Craig Stevenson <cstevenson2000 at gmail.com>* wrote:
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> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> Huong,
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> You would have a BA or an MA, now?
>
> If MA what was undergrad degree?
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> Craig
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> On 1/24/07, huong luong <huongluongdc at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> > Thank you anh Craig for the information.  I will check those websites to
> > see what is avaible for me.
> >
> > My concentration at SAIS is SEA studies and emerging markets.  SAIS
> > education provides me a good combination of courses in international
> > finance, policy-oriented courses, economic development etc.  Career choices
> > for SAIS students seem to be broad.  But personally, i am not interested in
> > neither policy making nor politics.  I see myself more with private sector
> > and specially interested in trade, commerce, financial services or
> > consulting business, or economic development issues (should be
> > internationally related). Therefore, I am looking for the same type of
> > companies you suggested.  However, my problem is that I don't know who are
> > those companies and still haven't figured out how and where to get
> > information about these firms/associations. It takes me years to surf
> > online. That's why I think  that i need a better strategy for my job search
> > by asking around for information. I know that there are so many CACC on this
> > forum who are more experienced and savvy in business than I am (since I've
> > been out of workforce for years).
> >
> > A little bit about my past experience: mainly with the private sector in
> > Vietnam prior to SAIS: banking, start-up of companies, business
> > management/administration.
> > My intership last summer, ironically, was with a political consulting
> > firm in DC. therefore I had to quit even though it is a paid internship :(.
> > i am lucky enough to get really good fellowship to go to SAIS.
> >
> > Here is pretty much my story in 5-sentence version for 2' pitch :))
> > Thank you all for your time and assistance/recommendation !
> > Huong
> >
> >
> >
> > *Craig Stevenson <cstevenson2000 at gmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> > Huong,
> >
> > I know what SAIS is, but could you give your exact degree, slightly more
> > history as to your work experience, internships, interests, etc....?
> >
> > career/job search meta-site:
> >
> >  http://www.rileyguide.com/jobs.html
> > http://www.rileyguide.com/internat.html
> >
> >
> > NGO, Socially Conscious Positions
> >
> > www.reliefweb.int   (go to vacancies)
> > www.idealist.org
> >
> > Don't forget to look at associations, dependent upon education it would
> > seem to me that private equity firms, investment firms might be taking a
> > stronger look at Viet Nam and might appreciate an educated individual with
> > language skills.  Also, importer/exporter associations, groups, etc....  you
> > might want to look at org's such as the ADB and then to look for positions
> > at their DC site.  Dependent upon your age, experience, and monetary needs I
> > would take a look at Fellowships/paid Internships/Etc....With more info I
> > may be able to list more opportunities.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Craig
> >
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> > On 1/24/07, Khanh Truong Xuan <truongxuankhanh at gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> > > Hello  every body,
> > >
> > > I just read this article on Wall street journal, and I think it may be
> > > relevant to the discussion about education in Vietnam we have recently. In
> > > addition to privatize the education sector, and have more choices of
> > > textbook in school, I think it is very important to make education more and
> > > more accessible to all the children in Vietnam, especially in the poor area.
> > > The success/failure of economics reform in China has many things for us to
> > > learn and this story reminds us about it.
> > >
> > > Have a great day you all.
> > >
> > > Khanh
> > >
> > >
> > > *As China Booms, Millions of Children Are Left Behind --- Families
> > > Split as Parents Move to Cities for Work; Coming Home to the Dogs *
> > > By Loretta Chao
> > > 1270 words
> > > 24 January 2007
> > > The Wall Street Journal
> > > A1
> > > English
> > > (Copyright (c) 2007, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)
> > >  YINGSHANG, China -- In a sparsely furnished farmhouse, about a half
> > > mile from a main road in the poor, rural province of Anhui, 16-year-old Zhao
> > > Yan has lived on her own for more than two years.
> > > She goes to school, tends to the family rice farm and waits for her
> > > father's periodic visits home. "I miss my dad a lot," says the teen, dressed
> > > in jeans and a lime-colored hooded sweatshirt.
> > > Chinese authorities estimate that 22 million youngsters in China have
> > > been left at home while their parents migrate to cities to find work. The
> > > numbers of the so-called liushou ertong, or "left behind children," are
> > > growing steadily in China's vast rural areas. They represent a personal toll
> > > of China's explosive growth.
> > > As China's economy booms, some 200 million farmers are moving to
> > > cities to pursue opportunities. China's laws make it almost impossible for
> > > migrants to school and care for their children where they find work. With
> > > little money, many simply leave them behind and hope for the best.
> > > Zhao Yan's father, Zhao Changliang, a farmer, left his land and only
> > > daughter two years ago. His wife died when Zhao Yan was a little girl. When
> > > she was old enough to cook for herself, he paid 200 yuan, or about $25, for
> > > a ride with neighbors to Shanghai, joining more than eight million migrants
> > > who have left Anhui to find work in China's urban centers.
> > > Many of the left-behind children stay with one parent. But over 30% of
> > > the children of migrants are left with grandparents or with other relatives
> > > with little or no supervision, according to a 2004 survey by the China
> > > National Institute for Educational Research.
> > > The problem is tearing apart families and creating a generation of
> > > children who grow up with limited contact with their parents and little
> > > adult supervision. Teachers in provinces such as Anhui say it is common to
> > > visit or call a student's home only to find there is no adult in charge.
> > > In one Anhui compound where a cluster of families have created a small
> > > community, an elderly man and his wife are the guardians of five children
> > > under the age of 6, whose parents work year-round in Shanghai.
> > > "Most of the children are still too young to know the difference, but
> > > the oldest one cries every New Year when they leave," he says, pointing to
> > > his granddaughter. "There's no choice in the matter. This is the way things
> > > are these days."
> > > Wu Peigen, a 14-year-old middle-school student in the same county,
> > > says his father left to find work when he was in first grade. After working
> > > several years in a neighboring province, his father's health began to
> > > deteriorate. Last July, Peigen's mother went to care for him. Peigen now
> > > lives with his grandparents.
> > > "I didn't totally understand at the time. I was just sad," says
> > > Peigen, who especially misses his mother on weekends. He says his parents
> > > "told me to listen to my grandparents. My mom was sad and she cried. I don't
> > > know when I'll see her again." His parents call about twice a month to ask
> > > him how he's doing in school.
> > > On most days, Zhao Yan wakes early, then takes a 30-minute bicycle
> > > ride to school. She returns to an empty home to cook for herself. Her dogs
> > > run out to the road at the sound of her voice when she gets close to her
> > > small brick house. They sit by her as she begins her daily ritual of
> > > lighting a fire in the large brick oven she uses to cook.
> > > An elderly woman who lives next door occasionally visits, and
> > > sometimes Zhao Yan has friends over. But the dogs and a borrowed
> > > black-and-white television are often her only companions. The middle-school
> > > student does her homework by the glow of the screen and listens to music
> > > videos in the unheated house.
> > > "There isn't much to do when my father isn't here," she says.
> > > Even though she enjoys her literature class and thinks it would be fun
> > > to be a teacher, she has difficulty keeping up with school. Several days a
> > > semester, she has to skip classes to work on the family farm. Going to high
> > > school isn't likely; it would cost at least hundreds of dollars a year,
> > > which is more than her father can afford.
> > > Zhao Yan's father leaves about $100 for her each time he goes to the
> > > city, usually for two to three months at a time. She uses the money to buy
> > > groceries -- mostly vegetables, because she waits for her father to return
> > > to eat meat, which is more expensive. Without her father around, Zhao Yan
> > > says she sometimes skips meals. She prefers to cook for him during the Lunar
> > > New Year and harvest seasons when he returns home for a few weeks.
> > > As China's cities continue to develop, the government expects the
> > > migrant-worker population -- and the numbers of left-behind children -- will
> > > rise. The State Council Research Office reported in April that the 200
> > > million people in nation's rural migrant-labor force make an average of
> > > about $60 to $100 a month. Many of these workers were just getting by on
> > > subsistence farming before leaving.
> > > Ye Jingzhong, vice dean of the school of Humanities and Development in
> > > Beijing's University of Agriculture, says that when children are left behind
> > > it can lead to behavior problems and mediocre performance at school. He
> > > blames the situation on China's hukou system, where farmers who move to
> > > China's cities to work are placed under separate educational and housing
> > > regulations -- meaning they can't apply for public housing and their
> > > children have to pay higher fees to go to city schools. Though the
> > > government has said it aims to ease the rules, revisions made to the system
> > > in Beijing and Shanghai apply mostly to white-collar workers.
> > > Chinese authorities created a coalition of government agencies and
> > > nonprofit organizations in October to propose programs that can help migrant
> > > families. No recommendations have been made yet.
> > > Since her only relatives live about 10 miles away, Zhao Yan's friends
> > > are her greatest support network. They ride to and from school together and
> > > spend some weekends playing badminton or watching TV. When she needs help,
> > > they often offer -- even when she had to fertilize a huge plot of land all
> > > by herself.
> > > Mr. Zhao works construction jobs and doesn't carry a cellphone, so his
> > > daughter has to wait for him to call her neighbor's house every few weeks.
> > > In emergencies, she borrows money from neighbors and gets medicine for
> > > herself when she's sick.
> > > During a trip home in November to help Zhao Yan with the harvest, Mr.
> > > Zhao's skin was dark from working outdoors all day, and he looked older than
> > > his 50-odd years. He says he hopes that by working in the city, he will earn
> > > enough to improve the family's living conditions. He has three children: one
> > > son in the military, one son working as a mechanic in Shanghai and Zhao Yan.
> > >
> > > "We need to renovate our house," he said. "One day soon, my son will
> > > come home and we'll all need to fit in this house."
> > > ---
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