[Vnbiz] Taking care of our students

[Tran Dinh Hoanh]

Dear Sis Thu Huong,

Glad that you're wamred up to the ideas.  And you already have a group of
three going.  Great!  We can plan further.

But first, CACC = ca'c anh ca'c chi.
CACE =  Ca'c anh chi. em

About English club, keep in mind that your current group of three is the
core group, or founding group, or leading group, or whatever name you care
to use :-)  The point is:  Any project needs an administrative group (like
the government) to keep the project running.  The first three is this
governing group.  (The governing structure may change in the future when
there are more members and more people are willing to volunteer to do the
"dirty works."  For now, all the founding group just has to do all the dirty
works :-)

So you three just have to sit and plan:

1.  Regularity:  All best plans have this regularity element.  Meaning, you
should have activities fixed intervals, either every week, or every two
weeks, or every month, etc...  Whatever interval you choose is OK.  But once
you have chosen an interval, keep it constant.

2.  Define a long-term vision:  Ex:  To promote the study and use of English
among college students.  (Vision should be idealistic)

     And the goal for next year:  Having a club of at least 200 members with
regular activities.  (Short-term goal should be concrete).

You can get much more elaborate on this "goal" thing.  But I suggest, you do
it easy and simple (as in my example.  Otherwise you may get stuck with all
kinds of theoretical stuffs).

3.  Make up an agenda for, say, the next three months, with activities for
each week  (If you chose weekly intervals).  This agenda may be changed as
often as you wish.  "Plans are made to be changed."  But you should always
have a plan.  And the plan should be at least a couple of months ahead of
time).

4. Send out invitations (over the Internet) for friends to join the
activities.  Invite experienced people to be join the activities too.  (Say,
Hong Nhung is supper good in English, she can be a core person in many
activities.  Anh Shane can be a real magnet in English activities.
Actually, almost every VNBIZer is supergood in English, anyone can be a
major player in an English event.  Invite them in to help you).

Then start partying!! @ :-)

Easy like that.  After a while, you will have more experience to worry about
other admin things, like how to make someone a member (like in VNBIZ, you
have to send in you personal data and ask to join).

Then after a while you may be experienced enough to think about other kind
of club, like debating club.

Just go!

Have a great day, Thu Huong and all.

Hoanh

On 1/11/07, huong dang thu <hdangthu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>
> Hi my bro and sis!
> Have a nice day!
> Last Monday evening, I had dinner with some of bro and sis in Saigon.
> ``^.^''
> On forum, when I read about sis Nhung, I keep in mind an image of a
> "big and old" lady (I mean big=super, old=mature). But sis Nhung, i'm
> pretty surprised at your cute and young outlook. It's also my chance
> to meet bro Tai, bro Tu and sis Thi. It is so nice to meet you. :)
> After this meal, I think that I have to learn more about my bro and
> sis in Vnbiz (then I read the "welcome" messages). And the more I
> learn about VNbizers, the more I'm surprised. For that my bro and sis
> are all very interesting and heart-opened. So plz talk with me and
> tell me more about our family. :)
> But, there are something I haven't get through. I try to answer (by
> guessing), but I am not sure. So, any bro and sis, plz help me to
> answer (and plz forgive me if my questions are so silly (V_V)
> First, what do "CACC" and "CACE" stand for?
> Second, I know that "Vietnamese is the first, English is secondary".
> But we use English in our family more than Vietnamese. Is it because
> that we are from some different countries so that English is the most
> useful language? Anyway, we still use Vietnamses in forum, don't we?
>
> That's all. Now I want to come back to the discussion on doing
> something for students :)
> Thanks a lot, bro Hoanh, for the concept "help themselves". I have to
> think carefully about this concept.
> I like the idea of a group of 3 first. This makes the plan seem
> easier, more accessible. I think about it these days. I also find some
> friends to share my thinking. 2 of them are so willing to join with
> me. ^-^". And thanks Rajakuma, for your idea of student club of
> theatre, social service, debate.... I like it. (^.^)
> I meet the idea of studying English with you, bro Hoanh. In fact, I've
> long thought about the English class where we go to the outside, to
> touch, to see, to smell, to feel... and talk about them, in English.
> This idea seems easy, but I could not find a teacher to be with us, so
> I just kept the idea in mind. But now, I think it's time. Why don't we
> put it into practice? We have 3 students for a group right now. Will
> you support us, my bro and sis? Please share any of your ideas with
> me, any topic that you interest in and want to provide us, or as bro
> Hoanh said, any contact. We will so need your advices. Sis Ziu Thuong,
> can you plz give us some lesson about dancing first? We are all so
> interested in it. ^0^. Sis Tram, as an educator, can you offer us some
> discussion on chances for students to fulfill their life skill, for
> example?
> The plan seems nice. Anyway, there are something make me hesitate...
> I absolutely agree on "Whatever we do, make sure that the activities
> are fun-filled and enjoyable". I myself lost my "fun-filled and
> enjoyable" feeling in some of my last activities, when we had nothing
> new or farther motivation to work on. So, this is really important to
> me. In our projects, we always feel eager at the beginning. But we
> might lost it soon. I don't know how to fix this error. But in my
> opinion, before we start something, we should have a clear long run
> goals (and a  good view), to make sure we usually have a higher plan
> to think about. So, though I agree that we should start with small
> thing first, I still wonder what will help us to establish that view
> and goal?
> The second problem is, in my school, I'm usually a weird one with
> weird questions and thinking. It's because I can read English stuff,
> and learn a lot from this source. This causes many serious gaps
> between us in class. Thus, my prior thought to run a plan is to reach
> the gap between us. I'm passionate about this. The current gap is so
> far. So, if I run an English club, I wonder if I am making this gap
> further? Then make it harder and harder to reach? My bro and sis, what
> do you usually do to reach the gap in your community? What can I do to
> develop myself and the others as well?
> It seems I have aksed too much. Don't want to make my bro and sis
> exhausted. :(
> And thank you bro Hoanh, for reminding me with thinking about brothers
> and sisters and friends around who may support me :) This thinking
> surely encourages me much. I will always do.
> Wish my bro and sis health,
> HeO
>
>
> --
> Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
> Attorney of Law
> Washington DC
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