[Vnbiz] Tet and unbelievable shocking facts

Sun Feb 25 07:05:36 PST 2007

Dear brothers and sisters,

I agree with brothers Hoanh and Tram's ideas generally. I understand that if I point one of my fingers at my staff when he/she made a mistake, for instant, then four other fingers of mine point back myself. The organising committee / organisers and or the related bodies of the event should be blamed, etc, it is no questioning. 

But the problem(s) firstly initiated from the people's thinking, behaviours, and sense toward the community. Just take a quick look at the "happy/satisfied faces" of those persons while they were doing such wrong things, I can't stand them. 

 Many expats keep asking me re. the worst thing in Viet Nam - the traffic and I repeatedly explained that the streets/ roads in other countries are not so wider compared to the ones in Viet Nam but every one travel/move on the right lanes/ tracks, on the contrary, in Viet Nam so many people  travel/move on whatever lanes/tracks that they want to. And my answer is the first and foremost thing need to be done is to get the people's thinking attitude changed and secondly is the combination of traffic facilities/ infrastructures and traffic control /enforcement & management.

I assume that you will agree with me that if the little children steal small thing(s) and if not well educated  and or no proper measures taken then they gradually steal the big/huge ones, one day.

Just a quick note to share with you all.

Bye for now and good nite.

Dao Xuan Lam

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tran Dinh Hoanh 
  To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net 
  Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] Tet and unbelievable shocking facts

  [ Vietnam Business Forum ]

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  Dear CACC,

  If you go to a concert and the concert participants have all kinds of disorderly conduct like drinking, trashing, fighting, who are you going to blame?  The disorderly people?  Yes, of course.  But wouldn't you immediately point the finger at the concert organizer?  The organizer has a legal duty to make sure that things are safe for concert goers. 

  Shouldn't the HCMC government, organization agencies for the Test festival, and the HCMC police be responsible for all the crazy things that amount to outright stealing and robberies as mentioned by the article.  Obviously this kind of conduct is not new, it has been repeated year after year, according to the article and readers' comments. 

  Why does the press not say anything about the folks in charge of the festival, i.e., the HCMC government and the HCMC police, instead of whining about some participants' lousy behavior.  Yes, their behavior is bad and should be prosecuted, but if the government doesn't know how manage a festival, such behavior will happen anywhere in the world.   I can see the potential for that right here in Washington DC, not just in HCMC. 

  There are two big governance issues here:  

  1.  The incompetence of city government to conduct a festival that relatively free of criminal behavior (stealing and robbing are crimes) (I say "relative" because there are always some criminal activities here and there) . 

  2.  The habit of the press to not see the government's responsibility and to blame the entire population for bad things.   So, generally in many issues, the blame is that the people is immature and bad, not that the government's incompetence and irresponsibility are the cause for the people' immaturity.  Does this sound familiar?  The government and the Party don't do wrong things, only the stupid People does!  

  Can we try to get out of this oppressive/subvervient mode of thinking and start to think and act like a modern nation?

  If any government official says, "We can't control such a huge crowd,"  I would respond, "Then why don't you resign so that we can find the people who can do that to take over the job?"

  Come on, brothers and sisters!  We have to be serious about governance.  Don't sit there and whine at the people.  Demand that government officials either do a good job or resign.

  Have a great day!

  Hoanh
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  On 2/24/07, Tram Dang <tdang2006 at gmail.com> wrote: 
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    True that these acts are nothing to take delight in, but to wave one's finger at the entire youth population in HCMC based on these isolated incidents is a little unfair, (I think).
    Not that I'm defending these acts, but I think people tend to do stupid things that they normally don't at fiestive get-togethers.  Cinco de mayo and new years eve riots are not that uncommon.  If I remember correctly, there was one in seattle a few years ago.  

    -Tram

    On 2/23/07, Dao Xuan Lam - Branch Manager <daoxuanlam at gmail.com > wrote: 
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      Dear all, 

      Whoever reads the content and or sees the photographs in this article shall feel shame & shock, and if not ashamed at such terrible actions of the local people especially the youths in Vietnam in general and in HCMC particularly nowadays! 

      How can we can address those people? Since they have not got any sense of shame at all and they loose all sense of shame! And finally they loose everything ranging from their behaviours, conduct,..to the Vietnam country' s face! For my part, nothing else I can say abut it.

      Dao Xuan Lam
  -- 
  Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
  Attorney of Law
  Washington DC 

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