[Vnbiz] China concerned about protests in Vietnam over disputedislands+

Thu Dec 13 03:22:18 PST 2007

Dear CACC,

I've just got news from one of my reporter friend who's working for
Vietnamnet (www.vnn.vn), one of the first and biggest official e-newspaper
in Vietnam that the chief editor Nguyen Anh Tuan has been fired; many
individuals involved have received "warnings". The Ministry of Communication
sent their people into VNN. 

All of those punishments were derived from articles on VietnamNet mentioned
about Hoang Sa. 

It is rumored that China has open fire toward Truong Sa few days ago. 

Some reporters in Vietnam compared this case with a recent scandal of a baby
sitter sealing a tape on a baby girl's mouth to stop the little girl to cry
in a kindergarten.

If you are interested in learning more about this issue, please go to this
personal blog site http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-_Q78P6g5br89WVUa77qC3PG4

(Chien Tranh!)

Does news like this pause you for a little thought?

Peace,

-nhung

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Nguyen Hong Nhung

"SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!"

  _____  

From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com]
On Behalf Of Craig Stevenson
Sent: 12 December 2007 01:29 PM
To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net
Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] China concerned about protests in Vietnam over
disputedislands+

ANh Hoanh:

Just what i have been saying and that I discussed yesterday.

China has been scouring the world for resources.  Some sit in its backyrad.
Recent action might be a ploy to bring the parties togethor. China doesn't
want to spoil the very positive face on its Public Diplomacy.  But its just
sitting there, will take years to develop.  Joint development now rather
than wait, wait, wait.  With the major well in Vietnam running dry it might
make sense to cooperate, share the burden and share the resource.  Perhaps
Venezuelas National Oil company would be a suitable development partner,
rather than a primary Chinese Company or venture between state companies (or
Western Companies re CNOOC's failed bid for Unocal) which might complicate
arrangements. 

Craig 

On Dec 11, 2007 4:51 PM, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com> wrote:

[ Vietnam Business Forum ]

Dear anh Shane & CACC,

Territorial disputes are very common around the world and most of the time
they are the evidence of human inability to work together.  More often and
not, territorial dispute involves a bunch of guys claiming exclusive right
over a piece of land.  Once in a while a guy in the bunch will re-voice the
claim, and every guy, again,  jumps up and down like a bunch of teenagers.
And this usually happens once per year, or once very other year.  Once there
is some kind of tension over the relationship, territorial dispute would
again be used to fuel the fire. 

Obviously, as a legal matter, to preserve your ownership claim, you need to
voice your claim whenver someone claims ownership over your piece of land.
And the louder your mouth is, the better your position may be.

But the solution must come from a more inventive method of international
dealing.  I would try a new approach altogether on the Spratly and Paracel.
Vietnam should seriously propose an international conference of the
disputing nations, pushing for the postition that all the claimants should
look at the disputed islands as a cause for them to work together.  Maybe
the disputed islands should become the common territories owned by various
nations. That should turn a dispute into a cause celeb for "working
together," which will tremendously help the regional stability and
development.  If everyone agrees to this approach, great.  If other nations
do not want to go along, still great!  We have shown to the world our great
attitude on international affairs. 

Of course, assuming that the relevant nations agree to this approach, there
would still be lots and lots of technical issues to negotiate and work out.
Not a simple matter.  But I seriously think that the world should start to
think more intelligently about international affairs, using every potential
issue as a cause to work together, instead of jumping up and down on every
potential conflict as a bunch of teenagers. 

Have a great day!

Hoanh

On Dec 11, 2007 10:15 AM, Shane Wall <shane.wall at translingualexpress.com>
wrote:

[ Vietnam Business Forum ]

Over a decade ago, and in 'another life', I was asked by an Australian 
Navy Admiral to analyze this problem. More than 10+ years later, my
analysis has not changed: Neither side can afford back down politically,
nor can they 'seize', hold and protect all of their claims. With 
Malaysia, the Philippines, Brunei and Indonesia thrown into the mix as
"co-claimants" of the Truong Sa, and China in total control of the Hoang
Sa since 1974, an international 'status quo' is inevitable for the mid-term.

All claimant country's political claims are either unenforceable
militarily, cite historically tenuous connections, exploit dubious
geological evidence or are in contravention of UNCLOS 1982. All
claimants know this about themselves, and about the claims by others. 
While there have been quite a few military clashes over the years, why
have these not escalated further? Simply because all the claimants know
that their claim is as weak as the claim made by any other, although it 
might be for a different reason.

We see these claims, counter-claims, admonitions, etc. at least twice
per year. Nothing to worry about this time.

Now, what would be REALLY interesting would be to see this issue make 
its way to the UNSC now that both Vietnam and China are on the council!
THAT would be an interesting transcript to read!!!

Shane
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