[Vnbiz] Staying to be a leader - Ho Thi Bich Khuong's message

[huong dang thu]

dear brother,

You have a same quetion with me in the first day I join our family. So I
can share with you the answer

CACC = cac anh cac chi
CACE = cac anh chi em

I think it stands for sth very serious but it's not ;)

good weekend!
HeO



On 4/28/07, Tran Ba Thien <tranbathien at gmail.com> wrote:
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> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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>  Dear brother Hoanh and friends,
>
> I have a questionCould you tell me CACC stands for what? I'm new member. i
> don't know exactly what it means.
>
> I would like to share to you another issue in leadership. today, they talk
> about ruling system such as system of ruling by man "nhan tri" and system of
> ruling by law "phap tri". In fact, the 2 systems are being used in every
> where, every social system.
>
> For example, American say their political system is system of ruling by
> law. But when you work in a firm, you may see your boss uses rule by man.
> When he wants to employ new workers, he needs to select some candidates from
> a group of candidates. The candidates are the same in many aspects. you may
> wonder why he selects this one but not that one. yes, in the case, he use
> his feeling or his experiences to get the options.
>
> I think, in America they use rule by law in macro level and rule by man in
> micro level. I hope brother Hoanh may give other words to interprete this
> case.
>
> In vietnam, many criticize that VCP and government use system of rule by
> man. They have ever given thousands of consequences from the ruling system.
> I am not politician and I dont't don't want to give any solutions for the
> problems. I wonder why vietnamese authority needs to use rule by man system.
> In fact, they use rule by man in macro and rule by law in micro. Some use
> this ridiculous explanation: law is a rod of powerful person to beat and to
> fine less powerful one but not the rod to fine themselves. Why?
>
> I think system of ruling by law needs multi-division of lawyers. it is
> very accademic system and high educational system. When you want to lead a
> group by law, you need good experience of making law and good experience of
> applying law. those things are very luxury. In big organization with large
> amount of members, they may have enough money and social resources for the
> cost of that system. but what can we do in small group? I think rule by man
> is the best way.
>
> I want to go back to the issue of leadership because of some reasons.
> Sometimes I read some newspaper articles that talk about bad phenomenals in
> VN or hien tuong tieu cuc. For examples, it talks about bad behaviors of
> policemen, state officers and etc. The authors of those articles wait for
> pupblic oppinion to judge the phenomenals. but newspapers are not courts.
> Newspaper reporters are not jury. I wonder why the victims don't sue
> officers. there are laws protect the victims. No one or very few want to use
> the laws.
>
> In some cases, the Vietnamese officers seem not very responsible. Few
> years ago, I heard a ridiculous story. One foreign officers asked the
> Vietnamese minister of culture to let them use some ancient remains for
> their exhibition. The minister said that he would ask the director of the
> museum. They explained that because the minister needed to follow the law.
> In other cases, you can see officers seem very powerful.
>
> Last week, I was in Ha Noi. I went to a restaurant Ong gia Chinh Hieu at
> Ho tay. There is a big house was built on the lake not near the lake. The
> house destroyed the view of the lake, the environment and etc. Local people
> said because the land lord was powerful. Big surprise!!
> Tran Ba Thien
> tranbathien at gmail.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com>
> *To:* vnbiz at vietlinks.net
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] Staying to be a leader - Ho Thi Bich Khuong's
> message
>
>
> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> Dear brother Thien & CACC,
>
> Interesting message.  Thanks, brother Thien.  I would like to be sure that
> we all know that involving a personal case with a personal message on the
> Internet is always a risky business, because we don't know all the facts.
> You may hear the "facts" from one person, but not all.  So I would take this
> Ho Thi Bich Khuong's message with caution and with some reservation,
> especially when the language in her message is not really polite, like thang
> cong an nay, thang cong an no.  My experience is that people who use
> indecent language in writing are usually questionable.  If the person cannot
> clean up her act in writing, what would she be like when you face her in
> real life?
>
> I would love to hear more details about this case though.
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Hoanh
> ____________
>
> On 4/20/07, Tran Ba Thien <tranbathien at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> >
> >
> >  Há»" Thị Bích KhÆ°Æ¡ng.
> > Công an tỉnh Nghệ An chuáº(c)n bị cáo buá»™c Há»" Thị Bích
> > KhÆ°Æ¡ng tá»™i danh chá»'ng phá Ä'ảng Cá»™ng sản và  nhà  nÆ°á»›c
> > Việt nam XHCN.
> > Bản tường trình và  kiến nghị kháº(c)n cấp gá»­i lãnh Ä'ạo
> > Ä'ảng cá»™ng sản Việt Nam, Ä'á»"ng kính gá»­i Ä'ến cÆ¡ quan bảo
> > vệ Nhân quyền và các cơ quan truyền thông báo chí
> > toà n cầu.
> > Xóm 4 xã Xuân Hòa, huyện Nam Đà n, tỉnh Nghệ An ngà y 16 vÃ
> > 17 tháng 4 - 2007
> > Kính gửi :
> > - DÆ° luận Ä'á»"ng bà o có lÆ°Æ¡ng tri ở trong và  ngoà i nÆ°á»›c
> > - Lãnh Ä'ạo Ä'ảng CSVN và  nhà  nÆ°á»›c CHXHCN Việt Nam
> > - Các tổ chá»(c)c bảo vệ quyền Con người trên khắp Thế
> > giá»›i
> > - Các cơ quan truyền thông và báo chí toà n cầu
> > img
> > Tên tôi là  Há»" Thị Bích KhÆ°Æ¡ng sinh năm 1967
> > Quê quán : Xã Nam Anh - huyện Nam Đà n - tỉnh Nghệ An Việt
> > Nam hiện cÆ° trú tại Ä'ịa chỉ trên.
> >
> . . .
>
> --
> Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
> Attorney of Law
> Washington DC
>
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