[Vnbiz] TO CHUC THI TUYEN QUAN CHUC NHA NUOC

[Tran Dinh Hoanh]

Dear chi Thu Thuy & CACC,

I'm glad you say you're in Holland, Thuy.  For some reason I keep thinking
that you're in Australia.  Just a couple of miles apart :-)

About sending government official abroad to do a PhD, it may cost much more
than benefit.  First, Vietnam can produce good PhDs and overseas schools can
produce bad PhDs.   There is no guarantee if you have a PhD in the US your
PhD is better a Vietnamese PhD.  That is ridiculous.

Second, why should the government pay for a person to go for many years,
without working, just to have an academic degree?  Would you do that if you
are a private corporation?  Why should the government do that?  I can see
that the employer pays for the employee education if the employee works full
time and go to school part time.  I never see a company pay for a person to
go away for three years to get a degree.

And chi Thuy's point is very good:  Each school has its own degree and its
own reputation for its degree.  A degree from school A may have more respect
in the marketplace than the degree from school B.  That is how competition
works.

But, really, I would put less emphasis on "a piece of paper" as anh Shane
said and more emphasis on constant training and constant advancing.
Constant training means you go to seminars and short courses often.  This
kind of training is usually more pragmatic than an academic degree.

Most of our people become very passive after gaining a degree.  So their
knowledge becomes dead.  That is easy to understand.  We need to change the
management method to require and motivate our people to constantly use their
brain and their knowledge, constantly come up with new and better ideas and
methods. constantly push for new horizon.  Then all the PhDs will be good
constantly.  And all the non-PhDs are also good constantly.

We need to encourage our people to care less about a piece of paper,
and pay more attention about substance and quality.

Have a great day, Thu Thuy and everyone.

Hoanh

On 9/10/06, Nguyen Thu Thuy <thuynguyen_qtkd at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Many thanks to Brother Dzung for sharing the article.
> I have not been really following this line of news and debates about
> Mr.Nguyen Minh Hien's language course in England, so it's very interesting
> for me to read your information and arguments. I like very much the examples
> cited by anh Hoanh about Vietnamese people learning excellent "home-made"
> English, one of the reasons is that chi Thanh An was my college-mate :-).
> Certainly, she is indeed an outstanding case that all of us, her
> college-mates, admire. After 3 years now studying in the Netherlands, I
> still "dare not" dream of her fluency and proficiency in English :-).
> I agree that the language education in Vietnam is not bad at all. However,
> the outcome largely depends students' qualities, capabilities, resources and
> attitudes toward studies. If students are "exposed" to an English-speaking
> environment, they will be "forced" to integrate and adapt to the
> surrounding. That's why Vietnamese parents now are eager to send their kids
> abroad.
> Returning to the point of "sending" Mr.Hien to England, I doubt that he
> can learn anything in the first place. I even feel it would be "cruel" if
> someone were forcing my parents (who are of around Mr.Hien's age) to a
> competitive environment of studies like what I've been experiencing so far.
> Hence, I conclude that Mr.Hien's goal is not "to learn English". It is
> really funny to me that he can even make fool of himself at this stage of
> his life.
> I also disagree with what Mr. Nguyen Dinh Tu (Hieu truong Dai hoc Lam
> Nghiep) said, asking for the investment sum equivalent to 50% of 322
> Project' funds (for students studying higher education abroad) into doctoral
> studies at home. People often compare the sum 500-700 USD/month with the
> income in Vietnam, ignoring the fact that the students are just living at
> (even under) a very basic subsistence level in a foreign country, regardless
> of other "invisible" opportunities costs they are paying. Yes, indeed we
> need to invest more, but not just in terms of money, first of all: what we
> need right now is an effective, transparent and enforcible regulatory system
> for higher education in Vietnam.
> ..."Ông Hùng cho rằng, để giảm tình trạng tiến sĩ "giấy" thì đào tạo phải
> gắn với trách nhiệm, thương hiệu của từng trường. Trường nào đào tạo tiến sĩ
> thì cấp chứng chỉ"... This is one good point, don't you think?
> Nice day to all of you, brothers and sisters.
> Nguyen Thu Thuy
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Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
Attorney of Law
Washington DC
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