[Vnbiz] Follow up gathering----HOW TO HELP THE UNDERGRADUATES?

[Shane Wall]

Dear CACC,
    I for one would be a willing volunteer my time for a program like 
this in HCMC. Specifically, I would be interested in finding out from 
the undergrads themselves exactly what THEY think they need! How could 
we collect this information: survey? seminar? what?

    The "fishing rod, not the fish" approach is certainly one that I 
fully support (I apply this every day in the classroom). In addition to 
finding out what the undergrads want, we should also find out what 
things we in Vnbiz can do, i.e. what collective skills, training and / 
or experience we feel we can pass on.

    When we have these two sets of information, it would be simple to 
"match them" and identify the differences / shortcomings of both sets.

Cheers,
Shane

Nguyen Van Lam wrote:
> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
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> Dear CACC,
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> 
> What a pity that I couldn’t join the gathering on 26^th due to personal 
> reason that I’ve reported to chi Thanh An. It must be a great time for 
> our passionate members to join, talk, and come up with interesting 
> ideas, I guess.
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> Regarding the issue that anh Truong has raised, it’s a great idea that 
> we can support something for undergraduates who may have potentially 
> positive influence to Vietnam’s development more than what we have been 
> doing. I’m working in HR field of a manufacturing group that will be 
> filled up by around 7000 employee within 5 years. Be side that, by HR 
> networking we can increase undergraduate consumption rate a little bit. 
> However, I don’t think that it’s the main point. We have limited 
> opportunities to share to limited amount of graduates (of course if the 
> matching comes from both sides). Thus, what we can and should do for 
> them is to provide them the fishing-rod instead of fish. We can provide 
> them fishing skills such as: How to prepare a good CV, what source to 
> look for a job, how to market themselves effectively and approach 
> appropriate employers, negotiation skills, what tools support for career 
> development etc. And more importantly, we can share them what the 
> employers really expect from them so they can prepare and take advantage 
> the best from their fields of study and their desirability to fit the 
> current labour market. All those kinds of thing can be delivered in the 
> form of a conference, workshop, or short training courses organized by 
> the university and conducted free of charge by some our VNBIZ members. 
> I’m happy with such kind of supports from design the presentations, 
> delivery them (of course, Sat or Sun only) and provide those 
> undergraduates job opportunity information around. It would be great if 
> anyone of CACC can prepare a proposal schedule and we will get it done 
> together. I’m ready to involve.
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> Have a nice day!
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> Besrt regards,
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> Lam.
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> *From:* vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com 
> [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] *On Behalf Of *ToanDucPham at GMail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:33 AM
> *To:* VnBiz
> *Subject:* Re: [Vnbiz] Follow up gathering
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> Dear anh Hong Truong,
> 
> That is great, anh Truong, immediate actions after a meeting, I mean.
> 
> Please be more specific, at least about what the students expect to hear 
> or to be answered.  Also, "hoat dong gi do" means public speaking with Q&A?
> 
> Rgds./Toan.
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> On 11/28/06, Tran Huu Hong Truong <tranhht-vcci at hn.vnn.vn 
> <mailto:tranhht-vcci at hn.vnn.vn>> wrote:
>>  [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>>  Chao CACC,
>>  Tren tinh than trao doi tai buoi gathering, toi CN toi co buoi lam 
> viec voi lanh dao khoa Kte, DHQG. Ho rat muon co mot hoat dong gi do cho 
> sinh vien cua ho de co kha nang kiem viec, nhanh chong thich ung va lam 
> viec ngay khi dc tuyen dung. Toi nghi VNBiz voi rat nhieu nguoi lam viec 
> o nhung linh vuc khac nhau co the chia se kinh nghiem, gioi thieu cho 
> cac ban SV den cong viec sau nay.
>>  Lanh dao khoa cung mong muon day se la 1 chuong trinh dai han. Toi 
> cung nghi rang linh vuc nay co rat hay va co ich. Nhung de thuc hien can 
> co ke hoach han hoi. Rat mong CACC cho biet y kien. Lieu VNBiz co nen 
> lam viec nay khong? (neu co) thi nen lam nao?
>>  Ve phan minh, toi co de nghi voi ho rang nen lam thu 2-3 buoi sau do 
> nam bat nhu cau cu the cua cac ban SV da truoc khi tinh toi mot cai gi 
> dai hoi hon. Ho rat muon viec lam thu trong thoi gian thang 12 va thang 
> 1 truoc thoi gian cac ban SV thi hoc ky. Chi tiet cu the ve thoi gian, 
> dia diem, noi dung toi co the lam viec cu the voi truong.
>>  Cheer,
>>  Truong
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