[Vnbiz] The march of McDonald's...

Tue Nov 14 07:20:29 PST 2006

I also dont like Mcdonald, KFC, Burger King or the like. Reason? Because it is bad for my health. But it is the fact that they are now in many countries I've visited. Should we call them a symble of development? Bad image but real and even I dont like to eat them (health), I like their convenience and price. Now I am in Europe for business trip and I sometime eat McDonald because comparing to having dinner in restaurant, it is much cheaper and quick (even my company pay for my expense)!

Another example, when I worked very late in my office in Singapore, I have to call McDonald for a quick dinner and some of my colleagues prefer Subways for their lunch - it is quick and provide enough energy!

So just find a way to live in peace with them, in my own opinion, when Vietnam grow more, people is getting busier and have less time, so we all - someday - need such junk food but never eat them on daily basis!

Pham Hoang Duong
Maersk Broker Asia

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From: Le Thanh Tam <info at tamlt.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 November, 2006 1:15:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] The march of McDonald's...

[Vietnam Business Forum]
The difference is that Intel and alike are considered “high tech”. This means that these companies can do what Vietnamses are not capable to do. Allowing these giant companies in Vietnam is to hope that knowdledge (no matter how “knowdlege” is defined) will spill out (e.g. local people can learn and adapt to local context). Eventually, local capabilitity will increase.

Arguably, KFC or McDonald can still bring something positive to Vietnam in terms of “knowledge spilling out”. For example, someone works for McDonald and learns how these giant manage the franchieses. He/she may then apply what he/she learnt to manage a Vietnamese franchise. However, some reasonalbly look at it at a different angel and see negative impacts which outweight the benefits. I named here 2 reasons (CACC and add more):

Firstly, restaurants are what the local can do. The service may not be perfect (as everywhere) but it works and is improving. There are more and more local restaurants which compete to each other and increase their competiveness enventuallt. These local restaurant create significant number of jobs, particularly for poor women. Local restaurant sector ensures all money stay within the countries (if it is a McDonald; a big chuck of profit will flow back to the West) while it provides a wide range of choice for the customers. 

More importantly, culture and lifestyle are threaten by Western fast food. KFC or McDonald are considered junk food in the West. Parents try their best to keep their children away from these bad food. Unfortunatly, some local Vietnamese come to KFC or McDonald and consider themselves as trendy and cool people. Huge effort from the Western states to educate their new generations to stay away from junk food speaks by itself on why Vietnamese should not support KFC and McDonald and why there are Vietnamese who don’t like seeing McDonald and KFC spread.  

Many western people don’t buy products from developing countries to protect their local industry. I would be happy to see Vietnamese support local restaurants, helping the country to develop without McDonald being in the street.

Cheers,
Tam

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From: vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com [mailto:vnbiz-bounces at mail.saigon.com] On Behalf Of Pham Thanh Nhon
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:58 PM
To: vnbiz at vietlinks.net
Subject: Re: [Vnbiz] The march of McDonald's...

Hi all,
Why don't you like that? It's a certain thing of open market in liberalization and globalization. I like to go around the city on motobike and see the diversity of  city life: many trademarks from foreign countries, the giant brands... If you don't like KFC or Western fast food, what's about others such as HSBC or City Bank of financial sector, Microsoft or Intel in IT field... 

If a giant is lost in Viet Nam, I think it is not good for the trade. Because it will throw away many job, investments, and other opportunities of trade flow. Like or not, you have to accept these for the development. 

On 11/13/06, nguyen_ngoctu at petronas.com.my <nguyen_ngoctu at petronas.com.my > wrote: 

[Vietnam Business Forum]

Dear CACC
In HCMC, my observation that the KFC business is growing up day by day 
(Good or bad , I don't know???) KFC has some restaurants around the city (
at corner of Nguyen Dinh Chieu- Pham Ngoc Thach str, Nearby New wolrd
Hotel, Nguyen Van Cu-Tran Hung Dao Str)  and normally crowded. They're also 
building a few new restaurants That is the good indication for KFC and
other Fast food business. I, myself actually don't like Western Fast food
but that is the fact.

Yours truly!

Tu (Mr), Nguyen Ngoc 

Senior Business Planner
Petronas Carigali (Vietnam)
170 HaiBaTrung Str, Dist 01 HCM City
Petronet: 8701 - 5004
Tel: +84.8.8222112/ext 5004 Fax: +84.8.8242152
Mob: + 84.90.3686860 Email: nguyen_ngoctu at petronas.com.my

" Be positive. Never complain without recommending a solution !"

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[Vietnam Business Forum]

Re: The march of McDonald's, Burger King, KFC and other fast food brands
into VN

Honestly, I've never wished to see them in Ha Noi or anywhere else in VN. 
I've always been so proud to hear compliments on the slimness of the
VietNamese (esp. women) thanks to the non-existence of such Western fast
food in Ha Noi, as well as the high community-sport spirit of our people. 
It's truly beautiful to walk around the Hoan Kiem lake every early morning
and late afternoon, just to see people jogging, doing T'aichi, Yoga...

KFC did open 1 store in Ha Noi a few months ago. Luckily, it doesn't seem 
to be successful!
I wonder how are these things in HCM city? Any CACC would like to share
some opinions?

Cheers,

Romi

On 11/6/06, Phan, Tai <Tai.Phan at ed.gov > wrote:

[Vietnam Business Forum]

Vietnam's WTO membership will cut both ways, bringing opportunities and
challenges
The Associated PressPublished: November 6, 2006
...

Vietnam also recently approved a franchising law that will make it easier 
for companies like McDonald's and Starbucks to gain a presence in cities
where U.S. chain stores remain largely absent.

If Vietnam's cities lose some of their distinctiveness and become more like
other bustling Asian cities, that's just the price progress, said Doan Duy 
Khuong, vice president of the Vietnam Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

"In a market-driven, money-driven society, we can't avoid the laws of
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