[Vnbiz] What is/are VnBiz/VnBizers good at?

Tram Dang tdang2006 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 5 13:15:18 PST 2006


Dear Anh Hoanh & all,
To answer anh Hoanh's question bluntly:  Yes, it does sound a little too
idealistic and naive, but perhaps that's something we need more of in
today's world full of greed and deceptions.

On a more substantial note:  I'd like to second anh Toan's suggestion on
expanding the vnbiz's definition to something more general, beyond the
current "business and econonmic issues" definition.  Personally, I'm
interested in issues related to education and social welfare (both the
application and research side of it).

How about something along the line of:  "Vnbiz forum focuses on social and
economic development of Vietnam." ?

Wish everyone a productive day.

Tram



On 12/4/06, Tran Dinh Hoanh <tdhoanh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
>
> Dear brother Toan & CACC,
>
> You don't have to put me on the spot to make your point, you know? :-)
>
> To know about each other more, we can follow two simple things:
>
> 1.  Each person can volunteer to send a detail profile and we keep all
> the profiles in one place on the Net. Only folks who have volunteered
> their profile have access to that place.  (The "Profile form" can be
> created for everyone to fill out.).
>
> 2.  Be with each other as much as we can, like playing tennis
> together, work together, dance together.
>
> No big deal.
>
> The big deal is the spirit.  How are we going to keep a brother/sister
> spirit between us?
>
> Human relationship is not the easiest thing in the world to handle.
> Relationship is broken easily, between friends, between family
> members, between lovers, between business partners, between tribes,
> between nations, etc.  We see that every day.  The key to our success
> is how we keep our relationships going as long as possible, lasting
> forever so to speak.
>
> How do we keep a relationship going?  I don't really know the answer.
> It is like: "The key to being a millionaire is to be successful in
> business."  But how to be successful in business?  Well, if the answer
> is easy, everyone the world is a millionaire already.
>
> I only know half of the answer:  I cannot control any one's heart, but
> I MAY be able to control my heart.  I may not be able to make him
> treat me as his brother, but I may be able to make my heart treat him
> as my bother.
>
> Does it sound too idealistic, too naive, too one-way?
>
> Probably.
>
> But I aim for efficiency. I know that trying to control (or even just
> to convince) someone else's heart is a fruitless affair, but
> controlling my own heart is an achievable task.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Hoanh
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/4/06, ToanDucPham at GMail.com <toanducpham at gmail.com> wrote:
> > [ Vietnam Business Forum ]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear CACE,
> > Anh Hoanh.  Thanks for your great self-reflection note.
> > Chi Thanh An.  Thanks for your "doi-moi"-styled Report.
> > Romi.  Your photography is amazing.
> > CACE.  From the mountains of discussions posted so far (since 1997?),
> from
> > the Nov 26 Hanoi Gathering, triggered by anh Ta Ngoc Cau's generous
> offer
> > that was made very frank and clear, initiated by anh Tran Huu Hong
> Truong's
> > initiative, pushed by anh Hoanh's self-reflection note, and encouraged
> by
> > chi Thanh An's Report:
> > - I have noticed one thing.  On different occasions (Anh Hoanh's
> welcoming
> > messages, self-introduction made privately and/or at the various
> Gatherings,
> > etc.), we have learnt, more or less, who does what where.
> > - However, it is hard, at least for me, to know who is good at what /
> has
> > what to offer.  E.g. anh Cau seems to have a wonderful local source of
> > business administration books / materials.
> > - May I suggest that each and everyone of us let everybody else know how
> > each and everyone of us can be "exploited".  Myself, for instance, I
> have
> > been with Public Relations / Public Affairs for fourteen years now, and
> I
> > have good working knowledge on ICT and ERP (at least enough to
> understand
> > and support any ICT/ERP B2C/B2B marketing communications activities) so
> ...
> > Some of you might find it not easy to say, "Well, I think I am good at
> ... /
> > I have so much ...", because, according to local styles, that is not
> very
> > modest.  That is not necessary, I would say.  You just have to tell what
> you
> > think you are good at, and you do not need to prove that among all
> VnBizers
> > you are the best in that field.  Let us take out dear anh Hoanh for a
> very
> > concrete example.  Anh Hoanh, who is an attorney of law, and who seems
> to be
> > a very learnt man with profound knowledge in every field, and who seems
> to
> > have a very high analytical skill, and so on and so forth.  Can anh
> Hoanh,
> > or any others, prove that anh Hoanh is the best lawyer in this forum,
> and
> > more importantly, is that proving necessary? Can anh Tuan (Microsoft
> Vietnam
> > Marketing Manager) say for sure that he knows the MS Word shortcut key
> > commands better than I do? (Sorry, anh Hoanh and anh Tuan.  Just trying
> to
> > make some examples and you are the "victims" because you are both so
> > bright.).  So please be brave and bold, and stand up straight.
> > Please excuse me for my lengthiness that might be entirely
> unnecessary.  I
> > would be most grateful for any comments / feedback / response.
> > Anh Hoanh.  Is it possible to change "VNBIZ is a forum on Vietnam
> economic
> > and business issues." into something else?
> > Thanks everyone.
> > Rgds./Toan.
> >
> --
> Tran Dinh Hoanh, LLB, JD
> Attorney of Law
> Washington DC
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