[vacets-gen] Kerry vs Bush

Tin Le tin at le.org
Thu Sep 2 07:54:15 PDT 2004


Here is the answer to point #3,

> One of her favorite charities is the Tides
> Foundation. What is that, you ask? This foundation
> sends hundreds of millions of dollars to groups that
> protested the invasion of Iraq; that demands open
> U.S. borders; and provides legal defense for suspected
> terrorists. Among other groups supported by
> Kerry's wife: Ramsey Clark's International Action
> Center. This is the same Ramsey Clark that offered to
> defend Saddam Hussein. Another group seeks to
> ease restrictions on immigration from terrorist
> nations. Another group has links to the terrorist
> group Hamas. And on and on. American jobs are
> OUTSOURCED by John F. Kerry and his wife Teresa
> Heinz-Kerry!

Again, the debunking answers for point 3 urban legend are provide by 
Snopes.com at http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/tides.asp

Quote:

In recent weeks, The Heinz Endowments has been accused of using its 
funding of the Tides Center of Western Pennsylvania to advance a laundry 
list of partisan causes and fringe political groups. This accusation is 
simply wrong.

It originated in an opinion column written by a researcher for the 
conservative, Washington, D.C.-based Capital Research Center. The crux of 
CRC.s argument is that money directed by the Endowments to Tides is 
"fungible." By supporting projects through Tides, CRC alleged that Heinz 
has secretly funneled money to every other organization that has ever 
received funding through Tides Center and the separate Tides Foundation.

Since first being published in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, CRC.s 
accusation has been picked up and expanded in opinion pieces in a number 
of newspapers, including the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and 
the Washington Times. But not even these publications have leveled this 
allegation in actual news stories.

The reason why is obvious: The charge does not stand up to objective 
scrutiny. Four facts undercut it completely. First, by legally binding 
contract, every penny of Heinz.s support to Tides has been explicitly 
directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be 
redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.

Second, the Tides Center is a provider of management and administrative 
services, and we have used it only for those services, not to advance 
Tides. grantmaking agenda. Foundations from all across the country-many, 
like Heinz, with strong centrist agendas-use these services to incubate an 
array of nonprofit programs. So does the federal government. It is no more 
accurate to suggest that Heinz supports every one of these programs than 
it is to suggest that someone who contributes to a specific group through 
the United Way supports the agenda of every other United Way beneficiary.

Third, the projects we have supported through Tides speak for themselves. 
They include programs to test the career readiness of area high school 
students, protect Pittsburgh.s environment and retain young people in our 
region-hardly an extremist agenda.

Fourth and finally, information about every one of our Tides-related 
grants is and always has been readily available in our public filings, 
annual reports and here on our web site. Far from being secretive, we have 
been consistently open in detailing the nature of our grants to Tides and 
every other organization we fund.

EndQuote

Tin Le
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Dr. Viet-Dung Hoang wrote:

> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 06:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dr. Viet-Dung Hoang <vietdung_h at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Gneral forum for members of VACETS <vacets-gen at vacets.org>
> To: VACETS <vacets-gen at vacets.org>
> Subject: [vacets-gen] Kerry vs Bush
> 
> Hi all,
> I received this email from a friend: there is no doubt
> that she is a Republican. There is probably some bias,
> but nevertheless interesting.
> Viet-Dung Hoang
> ------------
>
> I have combined 3 different emails that I have
> received lately concerning Sen. John Kerry and his
> wife.  They are very interesting, and  disturbing.
>
> Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I
> happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz
> sandwich slice pickles. Yep...."Made in Mexico"
>
> Check some of your Heinz products.
>
> ARTICLE #1:
> Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations
> leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign
> countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is
> right, because that has happened. However, he is
> trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I
> know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this
> country because he is not the owner of a single
> factory.
>
> That cannot be said about Kerry and his wife, Teresa
> Heinz-Kerry.
>
> According to the Wall Street Journal, the Kerrys own
> 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific.
> In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases
> four factories in Europe and four in Asia. Also, they
> own 27 factories in North America, some of which are
> in Mexico and the Caribbean.
>
> I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost
> their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign
> countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and
> Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers
> in the United States.
>
> Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that
> other companies that relocate should pay the same
> benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not
> demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married
> to the owner?
>
> If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all
> those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back
> to America? Of course they won't.
> They're making millions off that cheap labor.
>
> ARTICLE #2:
> Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes
> the average tax burden on Americans, and then
> calculates the "Tax Freedom Day".  This is the
> day after which the money you earn goes to you, not
> the government.
>
> This year, tax freedom day was April 11th.  That's
> the earliest it has been since 1991.  It's latest day
> ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000.
>
> Notice anything special about those dates?  Today
> John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans
> are actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the
> tax cuts.  He gave no explanation and provided no data
> for this claim.
>
> Another interesting fact:  Both George Bush and John
> Kerry are wealthy men. Bush owns only one home, his
> ranch in Texas.  Kerry owns 4 mansions, all worth
> several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho
> is an  old  barn brought over from Europe in pieces.
> (Not your average A-frame.)
>
> Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid
> $90,000.  Does that sound right?  The man who wants to
> raise your taxes obviously has figured  out a
> way to avoid paying his own.
>
>
> ARTICLE #3
> OUTSOURCED by John F. Kerry and his wife Teresa
> Heinz-Kerry
>
> Do you find it strange that Kerry's wife is never
> with him? Do you find it strange that you never hear
> any thing about her? This may be why!
>
> As time goes on, we're just getting to know the
> possible future First Lady of the United States of
> America, and it is quite interesting. You'll be
> hearing even more about Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of
> Democratic front-runner.
> She has quite a track record, especially when it
> comes to the causes she donates to.
>
> One of her favorite charities is the Tides
> Foundation. What is that, you ask? This foundation
> sends hundreds of millions of dollars to groups that
> protested the invasion of Iraq; that demands open
> U.S. borders; and provides legal defense for suspected
>
> terrorists. Among other groups supported by
> Kerry's wife: Ramsey Clark's International Action
> Center. This is the same Ramsey Clark that offered to
> defend Saddam Hussein. Another group seeks to
> ease restrictions on immigration from terrorist
> nations. Another group has links to the terrorist
> group Hamas. And on and on. American jobs are
> OUTSOURCED by John F. Kerry and his wife Teresa
> Heinz-Kerry!
>
> Heinz overseas factories:
>
>  HEINZ WATTIE'S AUSTRALASIA - Melbourne, Victoria,
> Australia
>  HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD. - Republic of Singapore
>  HEINZ WATTIE'S LIMITED - Auckland, New Zealand
>  HEINZ JAPAN LTD - Tokyo, Japan
>  HEINZ-UFE LTD. - Guangzhou, People's Republic of
> China
>  HEINZ COSCO - Qingdao, People's Republic of China
>  HEINZ KOREA LTD. - Inchon, South Korea
>  HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD. - Bangkok, Thailand
>  HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED - Mumbai, India
>  PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA - Jakarta, Indonesia
>  PT HEINZ SUPRAMA - Surabaya, Indonesia
>  HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES - Manila, the Philippines
>  HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED - Wanchai, Hong Kong
>  H. J. HEINZ (Botswana) (Proprietary) LTD. -
> Gaborone, Botswana
>  KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone,
> Botswana
>  REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
>  OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED - Harare,
> Zimbabwe
>  CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD. - Chegutu, Zimbabwe
>  HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD. - Johannesburg, South
> Africa
>  HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD. - Wellington, South
> Africa
>  HEINZ EUROPE - Hayes, Middlesex, England
>  H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Hayes Park, Hayes,
> Middlesex, England
>  H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Rovereto, Italy
>  H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Telford, England
>  JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED - Liverpool, England
>  H. J. HEINZ FROZEN & CHILLED FOODS LIMITED - Hayes,
> Middlesex, England
>  H. J. HEINZ COMPANY (IRELAND) LIMITED - Dublin,
> Ireland
>  H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD - North York,
> Ontario, Canada
>  OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED - Wheatley, Ontario, Canada
>  ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A. - Caracas, Venezuela
>  DISTRIBUIDORA BANQUETE, S.A. - San José, Costa Rica
>  HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l. - Milan, Italy
>  FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a. - Monguzzo, Italy
>  COPAIS FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANY, S.A. - Athens,
> Greece
>  HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O. - Warsaw, Poland
>  PUDLISZKI S.A. - Pudliszki, Poland
>  WODZISLAW, S.A. - Wodzislaw, Poland
>  ETS. PAULET S.A. - Douarnenez, France
>  H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L. - Paris, France
>  HEINZ IBERICA S.A. - Madrid, Spain
>  IDAL (Industrias de Alimentacã, Lda.) - Lisbon,
> Portugal
>  MIEDZYCHOD S.A. - Miedzychod, Poland
>  HEINZ C.I.S. - Moscow, Russia
>  HEINZ GEORGIEVSK - Georgievsk, Russia
>  CAIRO FOOD INDUSTRIES SAE - Cairo, Egypt
>  HEINZ REMEDIA LIMITED - Tel Aviv, Israel
>  STAR-KIST FOOD DÃ''OR LIMITED - Haifa, Israel
>  H. J. HEINZ GMBH - Dì² ì³¥ldorf, Germany
>  SONNEN BASSERMANN - Seesen, Germany
>  KONINKLIJKE DE RUIJTER BV - The Netherlands
>  HAK BV - The Netherlands
>  FOODMARK - The Netherlands
>  HONIG MERKARTIKELEN BV - The Netherlands
>  DRUKKERIJ DE GROENBOER - The Netherlands
>  H. J. HEINZ B.V . - Elst, The Netherlands
>  H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A. - Brussels, Belgium
>  SERV-A-PORTION - Turnhout, Belgium
>  Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L. - Rovereto,
> Italy
>  Comexo S.A. - Chateaurenard, France
>  HEINZ EUROPE - UK and IRELAND - Factories: Chorley,
> Fakenham, Grimsby, Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton,
> Luton, Okehampton, Telford, Westwick
>
>
>
>
> =====
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>
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