[vacets-gen] RE: [Vacets-local-dc] Bush's View on the South
Vietnamese
Dr. Viet-Dung Hoang
vietdung_h at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 8 05:55:17 PDT 2004
Hi all,
Allow my 2 cents:
How can we expect someone who did nothing as a Senator
(for 20 years, that's 1/3 of his life and 1/2 of his
working life) to start doing something as a President?
If Kerry is proud of his record as a Senator, we would
have heard a lot more during his campaign.
Viet-Dung
--- "Cao, Chanh" <CCao at ciena.com> wrote:
> Bros,
>
> I am not so sure that Kerry is the lesser of the
> two. Do keep in mind that what Kerry did in the
> 70's was argueably in the interest of the US -- his
> country first.
>
> About the interview, what does Bush really know
> about personal sacrifice? I really do not know why
> Vnese Americans support Bush in the first place.
>
> I don't know what Bush's legacy will be but we have
> got into a big mess in Iraq and for what? To prove
> that we are the biggest bully in the world? I know
> some Vnese Americans being blown off in that part of
> the world right now. Reports after reports confirm
> that Iraq had no ties to Al Qadar and 9/11. The
> bottom line is are we safer today?
>
> Economic conditions at home are no better as we have
> not seen the end of the layoffs. I have not met
> anyone who thinks s/he is better off today than four
> years ago. Maybe we are giving too much credit or
> blame on one person but frankly Bush got to go.
>
> Whatever he said in the interview below does not
> matter in a few weeks because people do not take a
> lame duck seriously. Back to the ranch in that hick
> town he will go. Bush will get slammed tonight and
> next week on the debates.
>
> Good weekend to all,
>
> Bo+`m
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hai Tran [mailto:hai_v_tran at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 AM
> To: vacets-local-dc at vacets.org;
> vacets-gen at vacets.org
> Subject: Re: [Vacets-local-dc] Bush's View on the
> South Vietnamese
>
>
>
> Hello Anh Hung,
>
> We should remember and tell our friends that more
> than 245,000 South Vietnamese soldiers died during
> the war, compared with more than 58,000 Americans
> and nearly 2 million North Vietnamese soldiers. (Not
> counting Cambodia and China limited wars in 1978 and
> 1979.) If you visit North Vietnam towns and cities,
> you'll notice that there are very few middle aged
> men, more women and young people. They were sent to
> die in the south according to their motto: "Born
> North, Die South."
>
> This exchange confirms to me that Bush is merely an
> idiot with respect to Vietnam issues. Furthermore,
> he spent his time partying during the time of the
> Vietnam war. It also shows that O'Reilly, albeit a
> conservative journalist, is influenced by all the
> liberal and left-wing propaganda which permeates the
> American society since the 60s. The leftists
> propagate this view to justify for their avoiding
> service in Vietnam, or turning anti-war later.
>
> Still, Bush was not actively acting to bury South
> Vietnam such as adopting the communist peace plan
> after secretly meeting with their delegations in
> Paris during the negotiations. He has not turned a
> blind eye to the oppression and denials of freedoms
> in Vietnam today. The designation of VN as a Country
> of Particular Concern in the area of religious
> freedom is an example.
>
> Unfortunately, we have to choose between these
> lesser of the two evils this time!
>
> That's my 2-cents ...
> Hai
>
>
> Hung Nguyen <hunguyen57 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> If you note Bush's agreeement with O'Reilly below on
> the South Vietnamese, what can you say about his
> view on the Vietnam War? Do you think that he is
> right in agreeing that the South Vietnamese didn't
> fight for freedom?
>
> Hung
>
>
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>
>
> Transcript: Bush Talks to O'Reilly
>
> Tuesday, September 28, 2004
>
> <http://www.foxnews.com/images/foxnews_story.gif>
>
> This is a partial transcript from the September 27,
> 2004 edition of "The O'Reilly Factor," that has been
> edited for clarity.
>
> Watch Part II and III of the interview on Tuesday,
> September 28 and Wednesday, September 29 at 8 p.m.
> and 11 p.m. ET! Catch "The O'Reilly Factor"
> weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to
> the "Radio Factor" weekdays on Westwood One.
>
> BILL O'REILLY, HOST: OK. First of all, I want to
> thank you for talking with me, since so few people
> will.
>
> (LAUGHTER)
>
> GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES :
> Well, it's a big gamble on my part.
>
> O'REILLY: No, it isn't, not really though. You, we
> talked four and a half years ago...
>
> BUSH: I'm teasing.
>
> O'REILLY: Yes, when you...
>
> BUSH: I enjoy how you interview people, and I
> appreciate you giving me the chance to come on and
> have, what we say in Texas, "Just a visit."
>
> O'REILLY: Yes. We're going to have a visit here.
> I've got 15 questions for you. If they're dumb,
> tell me they're dumb, because the audience will like
> that.
>
> (LAUGHTER)
>
> If they're dumb questions say, "Look, O'Reilly,
> that's just dumb."
>
> The first one is, according to a poll taken by the
> Coalition Provisional Authority ( search
>
<http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=Coalition%20Provisional%20Authority>
> ) last spring, only five percent of the Iraqi people
> see the United States as liberators. Are you
> surprised they don't appreciate the American
> sacrifice more?
>
> BUSH: I think they're beginning to appreciate the
> sacrifice, because the country is getting better.
> It's tougher than heck right now, because Zarqawi (
> search
>
<http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=Zarqawi>
> ) and some of these former Baathists ( search
>
<http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=Baathists>
> ) are killing innocent Iraqis and killing our
> soldiers in order to try to get us to leave.
>
> I also saw a poll where it said, by far, the vast
> majority of the Iraqis believe the world is getting
> better. And that's positive.
>
> In other words, people are beginning to see
> progress. Electricity is better, schools are
> opening, hospitals are running. I think when it's
> all said and done, the Iraqis are going to look back
> and say: "Thank God for America."
>
> O'REILLY: How long is it going to take before that
> happens, do you think?
>
> BUSH : You know, as soon as possible. Now, I think
> the elections are going to have, you know, a very
> positive effect, and they take place in January.
> Look, the people want to vote.
>
> O'REILLY: But can they vote when people are being
> blown up...
>
> BUSH : Yes.
>
> O'REILLY: ... and these guys are threatening them?
>
> BUSH: That's when you're supposed to vote. You've
> got to stand tough with these terrorists. You
> cannot allow the terrorists to dictate whether or
> not a society can be free or not.
>
> Do you remember what happened in Afghanistan (
> search
>
<http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=Afghanistan>
> ) when the Taliban ( search
>
<http://search.foxnews.com/info.foxnws/redirs_all.htm?pgtarg=wbsdogpile&qcat=web&qkw=Taliban>
> ) pulled the four women off the bus and killed them
> because they had voter registration cards? I think
> there
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